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- tzonic, on 10/11/2007, -3/+168The irony here, is that they will likely want to settle with her.
- NuclearBlast, on 10/11/2007, -6/+127You go grandma! You ***** ***** the RIAA!
- oxygen2, on 10/11/2007, -6/+121[nelson]HA-HA![/nelson]
- vroom101, on 10/11/2007, -3/+110Don't. Mess. With. Grandma or Grandpa.
- AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -2/+90It's about damn time.
- noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -4/+47Here's hoping she sticks to principals and takes them through the wringer.
- thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -1/+40Let them keep suing... each dumb ass case like this that goes to trial only hurts them more.
- biggrz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+39Shouldn't there be enough material out there by now about their behavior to strike back each and every time?
- busta, on 10/11/2007, -0/+38It's about time. These people are crooks and everyone knows it
- Anim8ir, on 10/11/2007, -2/+38investigatory?
"Do you understand that the world does not revolve around you and your do whatever it takes, ruin as many people's lives, so long as you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied along the way, just so long so you can make a name for yourself as an investigatory journalist, no matter how many friends you lose or people you leave dead and bloodied and dying along the way?" - nikkesen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+31I doubt she will. People are fed up with the RIAA tactics. Anyone who's been through hell and back with the RIAA will not settle if they are counter suing. They're going to want to make the lives of the RIAA miserable. Revenge?
- mythandros, on 10/11/2007, -2/+24I wouldn't be so quick to rejoice. Here's why.
For years, the RIAA has painted with a wide brush and used extortionist tactics bleed proportionally massive settlements out of people who can't afford a legal defense. It seems that in recent months, the backlash in public opinion has begun to materialize into potentially damaging defenses and counter suits. Here's where things to terribly awry.
I have a feeling that we're walking into a no-win situation. If the defenses largely fail and the counter suits fall flat, the RIAA's tactics become legally validated and nothing short of legislation will stop their onslaught. If the defenses and counter suits succeed, the RIAA will start arguing that the cases they've lost put them in a position where they can't gather sufficient evidence to prosecute cases without certain powers historically reserved for law enforcement. They'll lobby for those powers -- or at least something close -- and end up in a better position to preserve their flailing business model than ever before. In other words, even if we win, we lose.
I've been called a crackpot conspiracy theorist before so take this with a grain of salt. Still... - JoshuaH, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21Hip, Hip, Hooray
- TimeShifter23, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22This Grandma is taking out the RIAA TRASH... Oh ***** it... they are on the way out... Grandma, the FBI are here... GRANDMA: Let me get my broom...
- tnvwboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18The issue isn't if file sharing it right or wrong, it's about the RIAA knowingly breaking the law to go after people whom they claim are breaking the law. Two wrongs don't make a right.
- NerdyNinja, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16"...certainly illustrates the diversity of the word."
- wendelgee2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15***** yeah!
- deutscheBag, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12What? You didnt think I knew what a eugooogley was?
- rabidmonkey1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12I've got a solution...all we have to do is *STOP BUYING THEIR MUSIC!!!*
If you need a CD, buy it used and that way they don't see any of the profits from it!
People, if you don't go to target or walmart and buy that new Jessica Simpson CD, and the things just stagnate on the shelves, then the retailers will get angry at the record companies and the record companies will have to continually pay out for shipping costs and distribution. And if nothing still gets sold, then they'll really start crying about their profits. And that's when they'll have to change or their business will die.
Buy a book, buy a video game, go to the movies, borrow music from friends! Do anything but purchase a CD from these litigious monsters. - fmorel90, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11dugg for Zoolander quote
I need to watch that again...it's been a while - Jugchock, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13I like how the story uses "grandma" to immediately conjure up the image of some decrepit octogenarian, but the article doesn't mention Ms. Crain's age. For all we know, Rhonda is in her 30's.
- Novagenesis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Somehow I think at least one member of congress who isn't in the RIAA pockets will have the brains to say "wait, you want more power because you're losing extortion lawsuits? Not happening"
- Jurzeyfresh, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Its not their motive that i dislike. it is their methods.
Chris - JohnnyXmas, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11grawity: "RIAA was sued and only 4 comments?"
It's because they get sued ALL THE TIME. Most of us realize that this case means nothing at all, because the courts will not shut down the RIAA, no matter how many illegal practices they use. - ronaldinho, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10RIAA can't win. They have to bend the rules and violate people's privacy to obtain evidence. That clearly doesn't sound right to any of you, does it?. I mean, this is not as simple as a Law and Order case, because the only evidence involved is the internet, and they can't get a warrant or something similar legally (unlike normal crime cases where evidence somewhere else can be dug up and in turn generate a search warrant)
RIAA is screwed with all its recent losses. Go grandmama! She still got something in her, eh? - awhiteflame, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Was the Bush commentary really necessary?
- Travelsonic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Unless this is an extremely sarcastic post, I have a lot to respond to, and will enjoy it greatly.
- whoadave, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Just because we have stunning features and chiseled abs, doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak, gasoline fight accident...
- lexicant, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6@ecogeek1
I think you miss the point entirely, the RIAA breaks the law all the time, to illegally search and spy on everyone, not just people they believe are stealing. Would you like your government coming and and searching your house with out a search warrant. Now take that scale and apply it to thousands of houses. Sure you are going to find people who are sharing but it still is an illegal breach of our privacy. In no way should they allowed to proceed with these blanket investigations that they currently are using. I agree(and I think most others do) that we should pay for our music, but until the RIAA and the music recording industry provide a intuitive, drm free, way to buy music; I and millions of other users will continue to download music anyway we can. - clyde2801, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6As long as the RIAA have piles of cash to donate to members of congress and their political action committees, i wouldn't sound so sure.
- rhyss, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I for one welcome our new grandmotherly overlords.
- JohnnyXmas, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7FTA: "Ms. Crain. . . had her fill of hot air when she escaped Hurricane Rita."
What an awkward place to make light of this. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You're a stupid child.
- peterpanda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Go Grandma!!!
I hope she will take this all the way, and not settle. I hate the RIAA (They're just an unecessary middle man for musicians making their money off musicians hard work). - Novagenesis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I believe you should return money when you borrow it...
That's why I'm all for the mafia beatdowns you get if you borrow money from your Italian buddy and can't pay back... - joevill, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Go Grandma Go!
- TommyBoy919, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5So the record industry continues a decline as the RIAA continues to sue ITS OWN CUSTOMERS. Yet they fail to see a connection.
- Travelsonic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4ecogeek1, time to respond to your troll post.
"Unlike all of you empty-headed freaks ..."
... not supporting the RIAA makes ou an empty headed freak this is ad hominem to boot, and a very bad attempt at generalizing against all the Digg users posting in these topics.
"I am a pro-RIAA kind of person"
Good for you, it's actually be more an acomplishment if you didn't just make the same arguments and bad rehetoric debunked for eons before this topic.
"Many artists aren't able to make it big in the music industry because of pirates ..."
The whole "pirates kill an artist's success" argument is unfound on the simple basis that piracy is not the only factor, and a factor that is not easily determinable in its impact alone, that can cause failure.
It's simple logic.
" I were in a movie theater or at a concert and I saw recording equipment, I would notify the authorities IMMEDIATELY."
Agree with the movies, DISAGREE STRONGLY with the concert AS AN ABSOLUTE because many artists/bands allow/encourage this.
"I would make sure that they are ALWAYS making sure that people are NOT stealing music, because I believe that if you are stealing another ones work, you have to pay the price."
That's good, except you never once show/explain how it is stealing, you just throw the term around like a rubber duck in a bathtub.
"I think people should realize that the RIAA will win the battle one way or another"
How?
-People still pirate
-People still fileshare
-More are suing and winning against the industry
-DRM is dying
"they will find another way to make sure that artists get credit for their work."
Credit for their work != profit, and is also irrelivant to these cases. Somebody claiming a work as their own would make it an issue of crediting for the work they did.
That also held absolutely no relevance as to why the RIAA winning should be realized. - julianrod, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5That's why karma will get you, and you will get sued by the RIAA.
The irony will be so huge that the entire universe will collapse. - trivialbass619, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Crap, session expired...
Let me add to what I've said above. First off, whether you think file-sharing is right or wrong is your own opinion, but what the RIAA is doing to fight it is wrong (see above). Second, small artists aren't kept from making it big because people are downloading their music, it's because the record companies aren't investing the money in these artists that they are in those that have already made it. Downloading their music would actually make them more popular. More exposure. Third, like I said above, what they're doing is NOT right. At least the tactics, anyways. And finally, you'd still be paying a fine. And anyways, the RIAA could care less about the artists. They just want money. Artists make very little money from selling CDs. They're making even less now that legal downloading methods have reduced the price of music (the reduced price is a good thing tho, IMHO). Artists make nearly all their money from concerts, t-shirts, and other merchandise. You are just an ignorant fool. I can't believe anyone would support illegal tactics like this. - ut2k4king, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4What's ironic about that? They'll try to settle and force her to not speak about what happened. They know they're going to lose so they're going to try to convince her she has no case and settle for a low sum of money and some form of gag order.
- daekfire, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Yes there should, the problem is that many people don't want to spend the time and money when its much easier to just pay the settlement. That's one of the reasons that they haven't already been stopped, there aren't enough people willing to take them on - yet. I reckon its only a matter of time before the RIAA all just collapses.
- likes2comment, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Go Granny Go. My grandma used to take on the electric and gas companies before deregulation. She had nothing to loose and it helped to keep rates down. Don't tangle with grandma's that are mad at you. They have lots of time, sympathetic juries and judges and will make your time in court an absolute hell.
- clyde2801, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Old women and teenagers stealing music: bad.
Vast, faceless corporations violating the law: bad. Maybe even worse. - toxicityj, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7My God. Bush runs the RIAA?
- NewPunk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Smart woman. Probably doesn't have much to do, so she thought "I'll stick it to the stupid RIAA or whoever". I hope this goes to court and the RIAA loses horribly and the receive a huge fine for their investigatory practices. That would be a dream come true.
- tzonic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The irony exists in that the RIAA's principal tactic has been to avoid a trial and press a settlement, hence avoiding setting a legal precedent, one which future cases might be subject to. If the RIAA settled in this case, they would avoid setting the legal precedent that they engage in unscrupulous investigatory tactics.
- yodaj007, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4So do we need another version of Godwin's Law, only with Bush instead of Hitler?
- Flametndo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3We salute you, Grandma.
- RawOysters, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The RIAA....what a bunch of great guys!
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