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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+59Wouldn't want anything to jeopardize that money that is extorted out of people. Whores.
- twatwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25Easy,
The Croc Hunter pwns the RIAA.
First he would wrestle them to the ground. With his massive strength, even greater than that of the mighty Norris, Croc Hunter would close the venomous oratory cavity of the RIAA. He would then bind the mouth shut with rope, drag them in to a cage, and relocate them to a country that actually gives a ***** about them.
~Twatwaffle - CaputNoodle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22RTFA, Delina Tschirhart is the person who wiped stuff off of her hard drive and lost her case. Kim Arellanes is still in court and did not tamper with the evidence. It only makes sense that an independent expert check the hard drive.
By the way who dugg lubos' clearly erroneous comment? - netdroid9, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Sad as it is, how is this relevant?
- DiamondIce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Format -> Encrypt -> Rinse and repeat until paranoia is significantly lessened. A linux LiveCD and a thumbdrive with TrueCrypt on it does the trick.
- ridgelawrence, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15I say she zeros out her harddrive.
- thewhitefedora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10The RIAA definitely lacks credibility. They've tried to sue almost everybody they could, including dead people[read the article].
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I'm sorry, I just sold my computer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Just zeroing out a drive does nothing. You have to fill it with crap 7-8 times for a total erase.
- farrellj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Of course the RIAA doesn't want the expert to declare the Emperor has NO CLOTHES!
ttyl
Farrell - Lazybones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Just run http://dban.sourceforge.net/ , after that they MIGHT be able to read it if they take it to a clean room and dissemble it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Isnt it sad how "[Read the article]" isnt implied?
- jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@ zybch :
seriously, mate, find a hole and go rot in it.
assuming you are an aussie (you made it sound that way), it's more like youself who brings a bad image to oz.
steve did more for animal conservation and had more compassion for all creatures and people than you could ever hope to achieve... and, by the sound of it, you are pretty pathetic in contrast - tainc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6When I used to work tech support, my employer kept one of his external drives housed in a 72 watt, 18lb electromagnet, with a small red tact-switch attached. He used it once after a police scare. Did a hell of a job wiping the disk... rendered the damn thing unusable, too. I quit that job.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The reason just 1 pass, say changing every bit to a 0, won't work is that its not a 100% change.
You're changing anywhere from 60%-80% of the iron oxide that contains the bit's actual value or charge, not 100% (not sure of the actual ammount so don't kill me).
So, if you just zero it out, then there is at worst still 20% worth of charge left, and its pretty easy to recover that.
A bit like writing something with a pencil, then rubbing it out with an eraser. A quick glance would seem to show no graphite left, but there will always be some traces and your writing can be reconstructed using these trace ammounts. Write/erase/write/erase/write/erase will pretty much obliterate all traces though, or at least turn them into utter garbage. Thats what the good eraser programs do. - TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Just a queston, has anyone tried to countersue yet with a class action suit?
- Serigei, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4With any harddisk made in the last decade, 3 random passes is enough. 7 passes was for ancient disks, and 35 (the infamous Gutmann Method) was for ancient disks using an unknown encoding mechanism. Even the freaking Department of Defense only wipes disks 3 times (for internally moved units, everything else is just destroyed). There is no software method for recovering data and there is *NO* "lab" anywhere that would be able to recover data off a modern triple-random-pass wiped disk. It's cheaper and easier to torture the information out of you, just like with encryption.
- sophiaperennis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4More info on this, especially the RIAA and Arellanes memos at:
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2006/09/in-sony-v-arellanes-riaa-opposes.html
http://techdirt.com/articles/20060901/165920.shtml - jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Use Truecrypt... It can encrypt your harddrive on the fly and auto-lock the file system after a period of inactivity, for example. You can even create an encrypted volume within an encrypted volume, so that if anyone spots your encrypted filesystem and demands you give them the key, you can give them the key to the top-level filesystem and they would never be able to tell there was one hidden inside of it.
Now thats cool...
Of course, the government and the RIAA/MPAA in their mad quest to strip us all of privacy and humanity, will probably formulate a law that says that anyone even thinking of using encryption should be executed on the spot...
You laugh now, but lets see how much you are laughing in 2-4 years time. - dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Keep all your MP3s on a second hard disc.
Unplug it, hide it, and claim it never existed...
(Windows users should clear recently used documents, registry references to mp3 files on removed drive, etc...) - cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4 zybch - hey ***** - grow up....I hope you are eaten alive and all your family members say they are happy you are gone...
- larrywsm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What has the RIAA got to hide by not using an independent expert. Must be that they are above the law and their word is gold?
larrywsm - dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@lubos
Well they are asking for the hard drive to make a mirror image of it so that is not their argument. Good chance that if she is guilty, she deleted the files already but there is still a chance that they could be recovered if she hasn't used an erase program. - CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6zybch, I don't understand why people like you have to rear their ugly opinions forward and cast them upon others. So you didn't like the man- so what? Nobody gives a ***** about your opinion.
He was a good man. He did a lot for wildlife awareness and conservation. He had a family. A wife and two children. Saying you're glad he died is terrible. I hope that one day you will grow up a little bit- for your own sake. He accomplished what you could only dream of.
RIP. - SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3DUH! Of course they don't like independant experts, they are scared stupiud one might reveal the truth that the RIAA is a corrupt and money grabbing organisation, who sues 12 year olds for not being able to afford overpriced CDs.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Just keep everything on DVDs in your microwave. You get the feds knocking on the door, all you gotta do is nuke them for 5 secs and there is NO way the data can be recovered!
- qster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2someone setup the emp
- noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Zybch; Mmm.... that's going to look good in court when the RIAA asks why the defendant nuked a bunch of DVDs just before they got caught. It's just going to give more credibility to their case, unless those DVDs were the *only* evidence that existed (which is probably not the case).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is what I do. I have a 250GB and a 320GB full of goodies. Not to keep away form the RIAA, just so I can take them with me, have a backup, and share them with friends.
- stearic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Heh, thats a good idea. Keep all your *ahem* files on a 2nd hdd. That way whe they come looking for you, you can just make the drive(s) go away somewhere. They are just asking for your hdd that windows is on, nothing to prove that you actually had that extra hdd(s) with all those "files" on them.
- TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Do you enjoy displaying flagrant mannors of homosexuality? seriously i mean cmon...stop being a faggonwaggon. You should know by now no one on digg is going to your links are you that naive? what rock did you crawl out of? go spamming on sites that actaully have gullable users
- zirtbow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The problem with this is that most people don't have the $ to mount the legal defense to prove they don't have it or did nothing wrong. In most cases they don't even have the $ for the extortion fee. That's probably where most of the negative press comes in because so far its been more of a guilty until proven innocent run (Although that IS oversimplifying it.).
- LoopyChew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How about the old standby, "Oops! I accidentally dropped my active bulk eraser onto the hard drive!"?
- ninxmz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Oh, ***** you, animalss.
- Kolar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1She shouldn't have to go that far to prove anything.
- templeofboom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Drivecrypt is great for encrypting your operating system drive as well, plus it has provision for an o/s inside an o/s, like truecrypt does with data, thus giving you plausible deniability, and the ability to decrypt the 'decoy' operating system when they threaten you with rubber hose and telephone book beatings.
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2So why exactly doesn't zero'ing the drive work? Does it have something to do with MFM encoding of the physical data on the disc? I just can't see how if every block on the disc was zero'd that it was possible to retrieve it so I would like to know why it is the case.
- Germanopinion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1let's see how deep you digg me down for pointing out that THIS is just a repost of older news!
http://digg.com/tech_news/We_are_the_RIAA_We_don_t_trust_neutral_experts - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i don't think any class action suit has been made, but every time someone makes a countersuit themselves, especially for things like extortion, the riaa backs down
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They have to prove that the disks had the music/porn/whatever on them.
Better yet though, just use truecrypt. - dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A good emp will wipe your HDD, but could well leave any optical media you have in perfect condition (depending on your method). Also an EMP that is big enough to wipe the magnetic data from your HDD, is also going to permanantly destroy every electronic device in your house, and a magnetic pulse big enough to cause currents big enough to destroy equipment can't be too good for a person, after all, people are not exactly perfect insulators, and it doesn't take much current to stop someones heart...
Unless you mean we should use an EMP on the RIAA, after all, they are evil robots from another planet. Maybe we could recycle any useful parts afterwards, make some robots that are not hell bent on destroying the rights of the "little guy". - malkir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just claim that you have no idea who could have been doing such horrible things as downloading illegal music files since you have an unprotected wireless access point. Failing that, counter sue them for extortion.
- thewhitefedora, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I believe I heard something about someone countersueing the RIAA, but I don't know if they won.
- divatri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So... Such things make me a bit crazy
- TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4OMG Check this site out totaly legite, no lies!!!! http://animalss.isgay.com/
- CaputNoodle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I think digg needs a "ban member" button next to the little thumbs up and thumbs down things. Of course you would have to set it at like 100 votes or something ridiculous in order to make sure good people didn't get banned. But ***** spammers like this guy would easily get a couple hundred votes after spamming a few stories. Yeah he could just sign up for another free account but eventually he would realize that the digg community is not composed of idiots who are fooled by spam and he will realize he is waisting his time and stop making new accounts. Besides that his messages were buried within 3 minutes of posting.
Sorry for the rant, I just hate to see digg getting infiltrated by spammers. - xr56n44, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2can all you aussies please stop ***** with the wildlife?
thanks - twatwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Actually the whole feeding the croc with his baby in his arms freaked me out!
- mhearne, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0OT, but about the croc hunter:
"Croc Hunter Irwin killed by stingray"
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Croc-Hunter-Irwin-killed-by-stingray/2006/09/04/1157222051588.html
As for surrendering my hard drives; for national security yes, for the RIAA no. I would format the drive and reload the system. Next I would restore a standard document backup for the sake of showing variable file dates, and then let them prove I've just done it.
BTW, I've never burned a music cd, just backups and data. - Jok3r, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2***** a digg is getting spamed byt this asses
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