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- bhavi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+51***** yeah! We need more people like him.
- mattmcm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+45***** the RIAA.
- WuShuGuShuPORK, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44"Stealing is stealing you ***** crackers, when will you get it?"
Racism is racism. Duh, STUPID! - WalkerBurgin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+40"Harvard students usually come from lots of money"
That is a huge huge generalization. - Zephkiel, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Even if you are rich, Harvard's tuition costs are astronomical. Some people would rather save 15 dollars here and there because their pockets are bleeding.
- Anonymous99, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24Even if that's your opinion, if you knew anything about education at all, you would know that Harvard students usually DON'T come from lots of money.
- Redemption289, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15One of the fundamental differences between theft and digital information sharing is that people do not actually get stolen from. Its not as if I "take your music and you can't have it back". I think that this particular article says it better than I ever could. The current archaic business solution must adapt to the times. I have always thought that the best way to encourage users to buy a product is through incentives, not punishment. What the RIAA needs to realize is that while people may be gaining copyright material illegally, the harm that is caused by pursuing frivolous law suits is harming the industry both monetarily and perceptually. In some cases I download music from an artist to be sure the music is something that I like. If I end up liking it, I usually end up buying the album from a store anyway because it is worth my $10-$15 to support an artist that I really like and receive a guaranteed lossless/gapless album. However, whenever I hear about a current RIAA lawsuit, it makes me want to purchase music less, because I would just be supporting them.
Bottom line: I am all for supporting artists. I think they work hard and deserve to be rewarded for it. The problem is that the major cut of the CD sale does not go to the artist, but to their label. The more I hear about the RIAA, the more hesitant I am to support an industry that rewards its patrons with lawsuits. - spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Excellently written and well argued. These guys need to talk before congress.
- Trevino, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Copyright infringement is not theft.
- shteinb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Harvard offers 100% need met financial aid. (I am on it). Two-thirds of Harvard students receive financial aid, and the average grant award for 2006-2007 is more than $33,000, or 70 percent of the total cost of attendance. Harvard's financial aid policy is the best in the country.
http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/daily/2006/03/30-finaid.html - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"""Stealing is stealing"""
and copyright infringement isn't.
"""Doesn't make it legal."""
No. It does make it 'not stealing' though, which was the point. - vguard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10The RIAA shows it's true colors! This is their idea of "advancing the sciences and arts"?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10The RIAA wont last much longer.
- acetv, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Dammit vguard, Godwin's Law! Godwin's Law!
- ThisIsBob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I knew it! I knew it! Its the ***** poor people who are stealing all that music.
- accelero42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8As a fellow Harvard financial aid recipient, I agree that Harvard does a great job at providing financial help for those that need it. But if you're poor, paying nothing for college doesn't make you less poor. That being said, I'm pretty sure the argument here doesn't regard to financial status but rather an issue of privacy.
- DrShotgun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8One wonders why the RIAA bothers to even say anything... I just stopped listening a while ago.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12The more I read about the evil (and the political power) of the RIAA, the more I'm convinced that violence (especially murder) is the only practical way to set them straight.
- williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@Blackadder
The RIAA is a mafia. They deserve to be treated like one. - ocyeoman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You are referring to undergrads. Us grad students who don't come from privilege are forced to live on ramen and commute in from Somerville. Hence, there aren't a lot of us.
- vguard, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12@duhstupid
Your name fits your, sir.
"Stealing is stealing" is not an intelligent argument. It just a command. You sound more like a drill instructor barking an order. Or a Nazi herding Jews to a concentration camp...
The weak minded may your B.S., but I don't.
These aren't the droids were we're looking for... move along. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6People are still scared of the RIAA? LOL.
Just an FYI - your chances of getting a lawsuit for uploading music is less than winning the lottery. - rayblasdel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm all for the idea of Harvard using its massive legal power to battle down the RIAA/MPAA. It would be an interesting battle, the twisted copyright lawyers vs. the idealist education lawyers.
I also like the thought of Harvard sending out their students to aid the families being destroyed by these lawsuits. - lensman00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5What a nice contrast Professor Nesson's independent stance presents when viewed alongside the dealings of RIAA legal expert Doug Jacobson, who also heads up a filtering/packet snooping software company (selling to universities) while drawing salary as an Associate Professor at Iowa State University.
http://p2pnet.net/story/11497 - Lasthorseman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The RIAA as an organization should not even be allowed to exist. Anti-trust the bastards out of existence.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5For those that don't know, this is "Billion Dollar Charlie" from "A Civil Action." He's also credited with the failure of the suit - although it was ahead of its time. I believe he's the one who takes pride in seeing his students cry.
- speerross, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9@tpink
Doesn't make it wrong either. - jtorque, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You're taking part of the last hope of refuge for free speech, the Internet, and you censor yourself? My gods, man. However crude and primitive, it's "*****."
- origclubsoda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3More like protect harvard from congress ... who's sided with the RIAA
- duality, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't claim to be able to predict the remaining lifespan of the RIAA. However, unless something VERY strange happens in the future, then Harvard will be around long after the RIAA, at least in its current incarnation, is confined to the archives of history. As this author says, Harvard has survived by embracing change, something which the RIAA has staunchly refused to do.
Let the RIAA dictate policy to Harvard only after they've matched the 350 years of prestige and reputable dealing that Harvard is still expanding upon. - chryses, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Having taken two classes with Professor Nesson, I can assure you that he does not take joy in making, nor does he make, students cry. Now that Professor Miller is teaching in New York, there's not a single professor that I've had at HLS who's embraced the sort of pedagogical style that leads to sobbing (though Professor Meltzer's Federal Courts exam has been known to reduce people to tears).
- Pottersquash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Protect Harvard? No, we should encourage RIAA to unleash its fury on Harvard. If anyone is gonna beat them let them do it, they have the lawyers and money, let Death to RIAA become a class project for them
- MicheBel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Fabulous! Thankfully, some are fighting for what is right. Some people out there get it. Thank you, Harvard!
- retral, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5..or so we hope.
- kmanning2008, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@MisterFlaut...
You left out one important part:
Your chances of getting CAUGHT [at all] for uploading [or downloading] music are less than winning a lottery that you didn't enter.
But nice work either way. =] - CheezIt9109, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4*****.
They've been pulling retarded moves throughout their history. Why would now be any different than any of these past issues? No one is willing to take radical measures against the RIAA or the congress members who pander to the needs of corporate interest. How exactly will things change if the reasons for the problems remain? - tbeseda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm jealous.
I go to the University of Denver. Costs almost as much as Harvard, yet I receive half the education and have to deal with a *****-kicking financial-aid/admissions department only concerned with sucking these preps' parents dry and recruiting the next batch of chumps for their "elite" business school.
/rant
*considers transferring* - RayBeckerman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Funny thing is, the RIAA will probably never come to Harvard. It doesn't have the guts. All bullies are cowards.
- cellefsen1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Suing your customers doesn't seem like a good business plan. If the music industry wants to survive, they must open their eyes to their own stupidity. Since they have been ripping off their own "talent" for years, it should come as no surprise they would do the same to customers.
- tbeseda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree.
That article needs to be fodder in the battle against the RIAA, when ***** really hits the fan at the federal level. - firebirdx01, on 12/28/2008, -0/+1Great Op-Ed by Prof Nesson on the RIAA. Hope he kicks some serious RIAA ass in court.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/2007/05/01_nesson. ... - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"""The more I read about the evil (and the political power) of the RIAA, the more I'm convinced that violence (especially murder) is the only practical way to set them straight."""
Yeah, we want to be careful comments don't get anywhere near calling for violence against people, we might give the RIAA and their affiliate scum legal ammunition they could *use* against Digg under proper CRIMINAL law in any country.
It wouldn't surprise me if the RIAA/etc wanted that. - williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@sgteinb
Arguably Olin has better tuition policy. Harvard could support full rides easily. But then they would have to stop admitting legacies or it would be a farce. - mhockey14221, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3You guys go to Harvard?
Why the hell arent you studying?
Why the hell am I not studying? - loganhid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1any comments involving fuc* and RIAA will automatically get upu dugg up
- metafore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1bummer this isn't getting dugg more. is everyone _still_ caught up in that HD-DVD nonsense?
- carbontwelve, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I think I just creamed my self a little...
- speerross, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3digg down (replied to wrong message)
- k3vin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1 dsd
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Thats a stupid argument. Harvard is like Notre Dame, UCLA, MIT, Stanford, the hard part is getting in. Once you do they will find a way for you to pay your tuition bills. One of my friends from high school just graduated from N.D. and his parents were farmers and didn't have all that much money. But once he got in, the University worked with him to help him pay his bills. He said the woman that he worked with said "you worry about getting in, after that its my job to make sure you stay."
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