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- Civil44, on 10/10/2007, -10/+93I'm running vista right now and its a pretty cool version of windows But its not worth the money their asking thats for damn sure...
- PATSCRU, on 10/10/2007, -9/+73still on XP and will be for at least another year....
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -4/+62They are the fastest growing PC vendor in the US. By this time next year, they will likely be in the third spot in the US. Worldwide, their growth is pretty amazing as well. Whatever they're doing, they're doing something right...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+54Who cares what strictnein says? Seriously. What a no count Digg poster
- LordSkywalker, on 10/10/2007, -6/+50Only reason I recommended Acer back when I worked at Staples is because the don't load their laptops with *****. We did seem to get a higher amount of returns on them though. Don't know if it was the hardware though, a lot of morons would return laptops just because they'd ***** it up within two weeks.
- JD52, on 10/10/2007, -35/+77This all leads back to the fact that Windows Vista "will not" run with all the pretty bells and whistles on a normal average priced computer. Did Microsoft and all the computer manufacturers really think that people would buy an ass load of top end hardware just to run Vista (slower than XP mind you) with pretty lights and interfaces but no real useful new features?
I won't even start on the DRM *****. - lordtyros, on 10/10/2007, -17/+59News flash, Acer: Most people didn't buy a new pc for XP either. Here's how the PC market goes: Microsoft releases new OS, people bitch and moan that the previous Windows had just gotten good, so they're not switching. Eventually, their computer is too old, so they buy a new one. This new computer has the new Windows on it. They get used to it. Start again. *****, my parents had a computer running Windows 98 until last year, when I upgraded it to XP. They're used to that now, but when it's time to get a new computer, they'll start using Vista and like it.
Non issue. - benguild, on 10/10/2007, -6/+43Cool, but that isn't Windows. It's you. I've been using Windows for a while without any protection, I'm fine. Always have been. People just gotta think before they open their warezzzz!
- felman87, on 10/10/2007, -1/+35yeah, number 4 is such a ***** number
- LordSkywalker, on 10/10/2007, -14/+45Wrong. Don't get me wrong. I'm a big fan of open source, but you just have to realize the unbelievable stupidity of the average person. If they can't even operate Windows effectively, how the hell do you think they can deal with Linux? When they put their screensaver cd's or copy of Office 07 in and it won't load. They'll be crying to the nearest tech geek to "fix my Windows" within a day.
So sorry, but Linux still has a hell of a long way to go. - DocHoliday22, on 10/10/2007, -6/+35Acer sells decent PC's for low cost. If it wasn't for Acer those that couldn't afford PCs or laptops would be ***** out of luck.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29Acer was also one of the pioneers of shipping their low end machine with linux. i love acer. they dont go for flash or bling. They just make computers that have what you need and nothing more and that too for a decent price.
- estvir, on 10/10/2007, -13/+38> I won't even start on the DRM *****.
Considering you were stupid enough to try and say that no average priced computer would run Vista I doubt you would be able to say anything about DRM besides "LOL M$ LOLOLOL" before you went back to watching videos on YouTube. - BitSlash, on 10/10/2007, -14/+39Yeah that makes no sense- I'm running Vista on a 2 year old laptop and it's really smooth-
2Ghz AMD64, ati xpress 200m, 1GB ram. Aero runs fine, and it loads faster than XP, only downside is maybe about 4 fps drop when gaming. Stop buying cheap wal-mart computers. - jlubawy, on 10/10/2007, -6/+26haha how ironic i'm actually taking off vista and installing XP on my acer right now!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -21/+38I switched to ubuntu after my windows machine kept getting viruses and spyware. I'm never going back
- theonlyvlad, on 10/10/2007, -13/+28How the hell can that be fact if I'm running it on one right now, just fine?
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -16/+30Until those manufacturers switch to Linux and start putting some serious developer hours into improving it... This could very well be a critical turning point as Linux becomes more polished.
- helcat, on 10/10/2007, -9/+23Having been a Windows user for so long I've only recently made the switch to Mac and am loving it... and let me say that I'm looking forward to Leopard being released!!!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -19/+33put linux on your PCs for free.
problem solved. - YuriSakazaki, on 10/10/2007, -7/+20I'm using Vista with full Aero on a computer that's a good 4 years old, 1 gig of ram, Athlon 2800+. Runs smooth as silk. I have also yet to encounter any of the "DRM *****" people spout off at the mouth about without having any understanding of it whatsoever.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14I recently set-up two Acer laptops. They were loaded with their fair share of crapware.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+19That seems to pretty much match the pattern I've seen as well.
But you forgot those jerks who bitch and moan about the new OS when the majority of them haven't actually used it! - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14As a tech who has to fix a LOT of Acer machines, the problem they (acer) are having with Vista is entirely one of their own making!
Selling 1.6Ghz notebooks with less than 512Mb (when you take away the 64Mb for the integrated video) RAM its no wonder Vista totally sucks on Acer PCs. - gpmidi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14The memory manufactures LOVE Vista.
- Berkana, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16. . . or, Steve Jobs could authorize the release of MacOS X for PCs, but you know he'll never do that. (But if he were to release it, I'd give MS 5 years to catch up, and if they didn't seriously get their act together, the market share of the MacOS may hit the tipping point within a decade of the MacOS's release on PCs.)
- bluenova, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12JD52, they planned for the future. Vista is going to around for a long time and hardware will overtake the software as it did with XP. I don't like or use Microsoft products, but it makes sense for the latest release to be for today's high-end machines/tomorrow's low-end machines,
- Rodman930, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12How do you "hit out" at someone?
- millerbrad, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Uh, yeah. That's a $500 PC...
- DirtySnachez, on 10/10/2007, -8/+18its not a beast, its a mid-range desktop. 1 gb ram is laughable on vista.
- bigtomrodney, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13My Mom and Dad both run Linux. People buying Linux on their hardware don't need to configure their hardware. So they just run. No 6 month slow down. No antivirus. No constant reminders from apps to update or subscribe (Norton/Symantec). My Dad rips his DVDs on Ubuntu. No problems or worries. That 18 month old XP Media Centre that became unusable slow over time is now shunned for openSUSE which is as fast as ever.
Don't use the hardware argument. The truth is outside of geeks and digg users most home users don't even know how to install drivers in XP. - NeverAcquiesce, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Acer computers: Great power to price ratio but ***** build quality and god awful customer service (especially here in the UK).
This is my experience with them. I am NEVER buying Acer again. - ycomp, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11anyone want a faster Vista? turn your animations off.
- tnatharik, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12I use Acer. With Windows XP.
- millerbrad, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Well, now that you have 2GB of memory, VIsta would work fine. With 512mb, you're wasting your time.
And just because Vista precaches programs into memory, I wouldn't really consider it a memory hog. Why have 2gb memory on your machine if you're not going to use a good chunk of that memory most of the time? - Keefo, on 10/10/2007, -5/+13I have Vista 64bit Ultimate on two of my computers, one is a pretty decent computer Dual Core AMD 64 6000+, 2gb DDR2 ram, 8800 GTX.
and a AMD 2ghz Athlon, 512mb RAM, Nvidia FX 5200, and Vista runs perfect on both, except a few bells on the second computer.
No compatibility issues, and runs games exactly the same speed at XP give or take a couple FPS. - megaloid, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Have you bought a computer with Vista preinstalled? I did. One thing I have learned as a Vista user is that it is entirely possible to have the operating system ***** *itself* up. It's amazing. At some point, Vista hit a snag with its own, official Microsoft software updates, and attempted to download and install the same packages over and over. The help database was, of course, not very helpful. It took a clean reinstall to restore sanity to new computer.
While I am not a software engineer, I am also not one of those rubes who doesn't know how to delete the crapware icons from his new Best Buy machine. So, I surmise that if I'm doing two reinstalls on a six-month old computer, God knows what kind of difficulty the non-computer-literate masses are having with Vista. In the great scheme of things, this translates into a lot of customer frustration and lost productivity. - bradsjm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Vista finally made me switch to OS/X and a MacBook Pro. I'm very happy and with VMWARE I can still run Windows applications when I need it. Reminds me of my OS/2 days really when we could run Windows apps under OS/2... except this time it works :)
- Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Unfortunately, yes.
They pick up a copy of LOLComputars!1 for $0.99 at the local *mart because of their snazzy "15 apps that will make your computer x-treme!!", download them all and then spend the rest of the evening on tech support... - benguild, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Incorrect. Acers are the easiest to sell, for me anyway. I recommend them, because as Skywalker said, they don't load ***** onto their PC's, and they blow HP and Compaq out of the water (yes, I know they're owned by the same company). Just wish they would put a decent amount of RAM in there to run Vista...
- 574lk3r, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12built a media pc,
dual core 2 2 gigs ram ect ect,
had vista on it back in march,
took it off and went back to xp in april,
doesent like to run in 1080i,
and there's no tv software available for my ati all in wonder with vista..
pretty much useless to me.
shame, looked pretty... - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Sorry, but a 7300 is NOT impressive. Perhaps 18 months ago, but that card, and the rest of the system actually are pretty average (in fact below-average) by todays standards.
I sell a lot of PCs like that to my clients for well under $750 (that includes a 22" LCD) and 2Gb RAM. - Lane, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Gianfranco Lanci doesnt care at all about vista but rather his bottom line.i do admit windows vista is an absolute shadow of what was promised so many years ago though. the winidows UI still does not feel fluid between relatively underused aero transparency and lack of any real honest to goodness features. its obviously not worth a non-upgrade price tag but then what software is? what is amazing in vista is its compatibility even operating under 64 bit. i have no doubt that in two more hardware cycles vistas system specs will seem quite tame.
- mcorto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7"lack of descent (free) software and its restrictive nature", restrictive nature? I _love_ the extendibility of Mac OS X. I load/unload kernel extensions and modify them with no hiccup. The underlying core (management of memory, etc) of Mac OS X is open source, yes you heard me: Open Source. You can do whatever you want with it (you just can't resell it). The only thing that's closed is the UI and the applications that come with every distribution os the OS like Mail, TextEdit, etc. But honestly, why would you need to extend TextEdit? Mail has plug-ins, Safari is based on WebKit (www.webkit.org) which is open source and even the UI is replaceable with some cool utilities. What about free software? First, there are a lot of nice-looking OS X apps that are freeware. Second there are tons of free, open-source applications that you can install using Fink thanks to X11 (almost every linux application, think about ethereal, ettercap, ncourses, nmap, netcat, gimp, nessus, konqueror, etc.). I know there are thing in Mac OS X that could be improved, e.g. maximizing a windows doesn't always yield the wished result... But I think it's definitely a great compromise between ease of use (think about the integration between of iPhoto, iTunes, iMovie, Safari, Mail and how intuitive and cool the UI is) and low level functionality: I can use gdb without problems, I can program low level sockets, I can run Java using Eclipse or XCode, I can crack wireless networks, all stuff that you would do using linux.
- BlackCow, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9I switched from XP to Vista for my self built PC, I like it.
- Nadare, on 10/10/2007, -8/+15Users of digg get the obvious, why is Acer missing out, expecting a surge in sales because of a new OS. Most people who really wanted vista most likely already met all the system requirements since they are relatively low to start with.
DRM is *****, but with the studios it was DRM or nothing, so Microsoft chose DRM.
@nosajman: "my windows machine kept getting viruses and spyware" I'm sure what you meant to say is that you clicked on every pop up that appeared and installed random 'free' programs. - MJXII, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10I gave Vista a couple of months to win me over and it completely failed. Ended up removing it and using XP again. The disadvantages of Vista far outweigh any advantages for me, but I'm sure the day will come when we don't have a choice anymore.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8The last time I got a virus was in september 2001 when I plugged my computer into the university's network and got, I believe, the nimbda worm. It attached itself to the McAfee virus scan that the school made us put on the computer before they would let us join the network... and using the virus scanner's engine changed all my executable files to itself.
- Beautyon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9The real question is why is Acer whining about Vista? They are a company with with annual sales of 11.3 billion dollars; it is complete insanity for a company that big to be dependent on a single product from another company for a boost in (or continued) sales. Acer needs to get behind Ubuntu with some of their 11 billion in revenues to help it further surpass Vista. Whining about Vista is just pointless; they now have a way to live without depending on M$ iterations of windows, and it is a more than viable alternative. I think it is nigh on impossible that they don't know this. If they don't then the management needs to be replaced.
- Fartag, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11Not wrong. Ubuntu is generally not that difficult to use when vendors support your hardware, or if open source driver modules have met/exceeded basic functionality for it already. But it you're talking more about those "how can I warm a hotdog in the microwave without killing myself?" group of people that you see frequently working competition products in infomercials. For them then yes they probably should stick to OSes (whatever type) installed and maintained by somebody else..
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