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- digjam, on 07/16/2008, -8/+45http://digg.com/tech_news/P2P_leecher_targeted_in_ ...
Same article with same headline submitted by slamm71..2 mins earlier...but I am sure MrBabyMan will end up on the front page!
MRBABYMAN...INCASE YOU DONT KNOW....THERE IS A DUPLICATE CHECKING STEP WHICH YOU SEEM TO AVOID EVERYTIME YOU SUBMIT AN ARTICLE! - Avian00, on 07/16/2008, -2/+24Funny, because I arrived at this article by clicking the "Digg This" button directly in the Ars Technica article.
- Avian00, on 07/16/2008, -0/+15Too bad "encrypt all uploading and downloading" does nothing to make you anonymous which is the real problem with you being tracked in a P2P network.
- mCanada, on 07/16/2008, -1/+16One issue with the "making available argument" is that bittorrent data isn't sequentially distributed like with ftp or http. IE. 1,2,3,3 is sent to the user. With BT you might send piece 1,5, and 10 to a certain user. Those three "chunks" might not constitute enough for copyright infringement and if they do how much does say 3/10's of a video game or .3119% (spread across the file) an mp3 really infringe? Hell if the file wasn't complete it could simply be noise (fair use maybe??). If more than one person was "making available" I would put forth that you would have to break down how much each user was "making available" percentage wise, especially if you were making monetary damages. Especially since they count the number of songs infringing. Hopefully if this is the case, this would tie up the process
- tomz17, on 07/16/2008, -0/+11At which point does something become copyrightable? A single bit? Obviously not. 15 bits? 76 bits? or is it the interpretation of those bits? and... by extension... how far does something have to deviate from its original form before copyright no longer applies?
Which leads to an even more interesting question that my brother posed a while back.
What if I ran a website with "copyrighted content", but all of it was utterly corrupted by random noise to the point of being completely unusable. (For example, let's say I rar'd an MP3 and then messed up the rar file with random noise.) Am I distributing copyright content? Or is it just garbage? It's functionally worthless. You can't play it, and it's certainly not even recognizable as the original work. At which point does it cease being a copyrighted work?
--now--
What if you ran a website with parity information that allowed you to recover the corrupted files? Are you distributing copyrighted content? Alone, it's worthless. In fact, it's new content that you generated yourself. It's also not recognizable as the original work... It's also completely worthless on its own ???
Both of us are distributing data that is functionally worthless and AFAIK not a copyrighted work. The intent to pirate stuff is definitely there, but are either of us breaking the letter of the law? How about if we work together? How about if we work separately?
Things to ponder, and AFAIK not yet challenged in our legal system.... and please do feel free to chime in if you have any insight into the legal answers - Shogi, on 07/16/2008, -0/+9***** asinine. They'll do whatever they can to sue whoever, regardless of whether it's true or not.
- Rolamoto, on 07/16/2008, -0/+6I accidentally read "Media Protector" as "Media Predator". The name fits though.
- Charun, on 07/16/2008, -0/+6LOUD NOISES
- holyreality, on 07/16/2008, -0/+5alarming. I had long thought that I'd be ignored because I don't share a single file (on most networks). but it's good to see that only an accusation is necessary for prosecutors to build a case against a private citizen.
- tvanwyk, on 07/16/2008, -0/+4Tool.
- Shoebox639, on 07/16/2008, -1/+5However the damages RIAA and MPAA are seeking from their current lawsuits are punitive damages, which are excessively high to deter people from file sharing. It's like imposing the death penalty on petty thievery, people would stop in a heartbeat. I used to think this as well.
- peterfnet, on 07/16/2008, -0/+4at least use correct C++ syntax...
- nerdherder, on 07/16/2008, -2/+5People use those?
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3duplicunt
- dougerdo, on 07/16/2008, -0/+3Never ever be the first one to up something new. Your footprint will be of much interest should they choose to come for you.
- TheGuruStud, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1steal internet = they can't find you
works for me :) - FluffyScarsdale, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1This is a great example of the types of issues now facing our legal system. The specialty field of Virtual Intellectual Property. Virtual IP attorneys will be a new specialty soon and will be a growing field of legal study. The the issues raised as a result of the Internet and cyberspace are fascinating. On NPR the other day another fascinating issue was raised. You guys might want to check it out http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/07/11/0 ...
- mCanada, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1excellent link, thanks.
- wexmajor, on 07/16/2008, -4/+5Remember that Germany is a hellish fascist wasteland even by US standards. The swastika is banned, and importing a banned game could land you YEARS in jail. They don't even pretend to have freedom of expression. They're just fascist anti-Nazis as opposed to fascist Nazis now.
- inactive, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1He should be banned for submitting dupes.
- BatmanStan, on 12/20/2008, -0/+0everything you do online is monitored.
http://godzillafiguresblog.com - madeingermany, on 07/16/2008, -2/+1So what, the swastika is banned. All your other claims are *****.
"importing a banned game could land you YEARS in jail"
Private possession (and thus playing it) and acquisition (such as downloading a demo from the Internet) is still legal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_ ... - Shogi, on 07/16/2008, -7/+5I for one bow to my new babyman overlord.
- stillrealvicz, on 07/16/2008, -7/+2serves him right
- aComa, on 07/16/2008, -5/+0At least indent nicely, ***** hell...
.if(country.Laws & CopyrightHell)
. Encrypt(&TransmitData);
.else if(country.Laws & UploadingLimits)
. TransmitData.Upload = false;
.else
. TransmitData.Upload = true; //...
Oh my god, I just actually that I typed that out... what the hell -_- ... I didn't even think about it, I just started churning out code - anagami, on 07/16/2008, -18/+10if (your country is a copyright hell){
encrypt all uploading and downloading
}
else{
--if(your contry has laws against uploading){
--leech
--}
----else{
----seed
----}
} - Shogi, on 07/16/2008, -9/+1Dugg for programming joke =)
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