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- nickels, on 10/07/2008, -7/+24I have a regular Tivo and a TivoHD, and I can't say enough good things about them. They changed the way I watch TV, and they do so much more then just record shows. I can now view YouTube, watch movies I dl'd to my PC, look at photos, play music, transfer shows to record on DVD for the kids to view them in the car, transfer old VHS tapes to DVD (Tivo records VHS tape, video is transferred to PC then converted to DVD), and the ability to set up records via my iPhones web broswer - aka online scheduling.
The guy above likes his Dish DVR, but there is no way it does half the things a Tivo can do. And the best part, every update brings new features (and some bugs) so the Tivo continues to evolve over time.
Best purchase I've made to date. Can you tell I love Tivo? - Scott2, on 10/07/2008, -15/+26Shame. I like my Dish DVR a whole lot more than TiVo - much less restrictive.
- mpobri, on 10/07/2008, -5/+16Yes, but if you subscribe to cable or satellite and want DVR capability, going with the provider's DVR is always less expensive. If you don't need the bells and whistles of TiVo, the cost-benefit doesn't add up.
I hate patents that are so wide-reaching like TiVo's. I understand intellectual property, but that one's ridiculous. - mpobri, on 10/07/2008, -3/+10Err... Dish charges nothing extra per month and the device was free.
- KnightWhoSaysNi, on 10/07/2008, -5/+12The Dish DVR isn't even close to the same league as TiVo.
The Dish menu is a counter-intuitive, confusing mess
The UI even uses dialog boxes and checkboxes and requires "tabbing" through a series of buttons.
It was clearly designed by programmers, not by usability people. - troub, on 10/07/2008, -1/+6I doubt it (in the case of DTV, anyway), because DirecTV and Tivo worked together on DirecTVs earlier DVRs (that actually run Tivo-branded software). I just got a message on my DirecTivo box the other day saying that they had renewed their agreement, and a Tivo-branded DirecTV HDDVR would appear next year.
- rkzda, on 10/07/2008, -0/+3If you payed any attention you would notice that the guys on the other side that try to push certain regulations on Satellite tv companies are cable providers right? Cable wants your rates to go up, so they spend money and lobby congress for absurd regulations on satellite that might cost you more.
- valleyman86, on 10/07/2008, -0/+3I love my Tivo and they have great tech support from my experience. But holy hell I read that patent. Its so broad! It claims patent on allowing the user to record a show at the same time they are watching a show. Seems like that's the main purpose of a DVR.
- MattB123, on 10/07/2008, -0/+3I live my Dish DVR but I wish I could get video out of it (say, to archive to DVD from my PC) without going to so much trouble. They really try and make that as difficult as possible. I hear TiVo is much better in that respect.
- chris4404, on 10/07/2008, -2/+5Mythtv is nice but with no CableCARD support Tivo wins.
- insanebrain, on 10/07/2008, -3/+5Loosing the money sucks, but the implementation is already altered, so for the users nothing changes.
- insomniac8400, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2What did TIVO invent that the VCR didn't already do and that digital video stored on computers didn't already allow? Nothing.
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -3/+5I'm tired of Dish - once Fios is available in my area, I will switch.
Dish is always complaining about regulations and contact your congressman so Dish doesn't have to raise rates.
Charlie Ergen reminds me of Matt Heaton of Bluehost. Both want you to believe they are victims and the underdog. - christophocles, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2well compared to the Time Warner DVR that I have, the Dish DVR is a joy to use (and I've never used a real Tivo). TWC's scientific atlanta box is a slow, laggy, buggy piece of crap! I'd like to switch back to Dish for that reason alone.
- mpobri, on 10/07/2008, -3/+5$300 for the HD TiVo, $300 for 3-years service = $16.67 more per month so that I can record TV, which I can do with my Dish HD DVR for $0 extra.
For recording off antennae I use my iMac with an EyeTV dongle ($100).
Sorry, I love technology and devices, never been sold on TiVo. - brinewr, on 10/07/2008, -1/+3Um. I hate to break it to you, but EVERY PATENT is on an idea.
- KnightWhoSaysNi, on 10/07/2008, -3/+5The main difference is in the superior design of the TiVo user interface.
TiVo is a joy to use.
In Digg terms: It's the difference between IE 6 and Firefox 3. They both get the job done, but one is clearly head and shoulders above the other.
(BTW, I have both systems: TiVo v2 and the latest HD Dish DVR) - KnightWhoSaysNi, on 10/07/2008, -0/+2That's not free, the Obama campaign is paying for it.
I think it is a waste of money, because I don't know of anyone who would willingly watch political ads. - Helspawn, on 10/07/2008, -2/+4I'm surprised no one has even made a comment yet on how stupid the patent was to begin with..
It's a broad patent on "Multimedia time warping"
It's a patent on an idea... The patent system is so broken .. - TiMMY8765, on 10/07/2008, -4/+5while everyone argues about tivo vs dish dvr, I'll just sit here and watch my mythtv
- Otto, on 10/07/2008, -5/+6Errr... Pretty much everything? Tivo's functionality is huge, Dish DVR's don't even come close.
- brinewr, on 10/07/2008, -1/+2If someone stole your idea and didn't pay you for it after you had patened it, you'd be singing a different tune.
- brinewr, on 10/07/2008, -2/+3TIVO RULES!
- sugablonde, on 10/09/2008, -0/+1my bill for dish better not go up.
- archer75, on 10/07/2008, -4/+5This ruling could very well open the doors for Tivo to sue Direct TV next, and then every cable provider out there.
- wexmajor, on 10/07/2008, -2/+3I don't give a ***** which is better, this is a really bad precedent.
- OKeric, on 10/07/2008, -10/+11I have a DISH DVR and love it. As far as I can tell it does everything that a TiVo does and also everything that my Vista Media Center PC does.
Not sure what else a TiVo could do that the dish cant. - cquinnd, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1DISH tried to shaft Tivo way back by copying unique (no prior art) parts of their set top design, and convieniently forgetting that they had worked with Tivo on a prototype DVR that they later turned into their own 1st gen product.
Dish customers should have been the first to benefit from adding Tivo features to their recievers years before it really happened. - brinewr, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1TIVO let's me move videos onto my mac for archiving. I can also put my OWN movies ONTO the TIVO so I can watch them on the TV. FREAKIN' Brilliant!
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1Exactly, that's why I used the term "whore". But then again, perhaps pimping would have been more apropos.
- cquinnd, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1You've never seem an even slightly hacked Tivo.
- welestgw, on 10/07/2008, -2/+3It's more of a pay me now, pay me later scenario. If you spend the money to purchase a lifetime service with TiVo, you will save compared to the cable company DVR.
It's not really fair to compare TiVo to Dish dvr's currently, as all their new stuff doesn't support it anyway. - litkaj, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1Heh... I wonder if this means that TiVo can cut back on the adverts; they're really starting to get ridiculous as it keeps showing me the same crap over and over. If I didn't click it the first few times I'm not going to so it should take the damn hint.
- cquinnd, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Maybe it will generate more interest in companies to buy ads to put more unique content in that space.
- cquinnd, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Yes, DISH did set a bad precedent.
- pencilneck, on 10/07/2008, -3/+4***** TIVO, all they have done is rolled the dice on the failed patent system and shafted Dish and by proxy, Dish customers, who in the end will be the ones footing the bill.
- brinewr, on 10/07/2008, -3/+3Yeah, if cheap is what you want, you get what you pay for. :)
- welestgw, on 10/07/2008, -1/+1Good luck upgrading the hard drive in that thing.
- insomniac8400, on 10/07/2008, -3/+3It has to be annoying to completely develop a product on your own and have a company force you to pay them money because they hold an obscure patent that had nothing to do with the creation of your product. If a patent doesn't help a company save on R&D costs, why should the patent owner deserve anything?
- TheMachine1, on 10/07/2008, -1/+1Pirated technology is usually less restrictive and cheaper.
- thunderdeer, on 10/08/2008, -0/+0I would have to say I do love my tivo wish there was more free on demand content and one could add any video podcast they like. I have a tivo series2 when I bought it I purchased the lifetime subscriptions and have to say was the best buy of any electronic device that I have ever purchased and havent had any problems with durability
- cquinnd, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1What exactly do you think is wide-reaching about Tivo's patents?
- inactive, on 10/07/2008, -1/+0Pay attention ? I pay with attention and dollars.
I understand that Dish needs the same army that cable is trying to use.
But my point is that they yell at us when it may affect them, but when it only affects us - the subscriber - we have to yell at them. - Otto, on 10/07/2008, -5/+4Errr... My cable company charges $10 monthly for a DVR. My TivoHD is $7 a month. Seems cheaper to me.
- RyanHCO, on 10/07/2008, -9/+2Delaware....We're in...Delaware.
- DarkPrincess74, on 10/07/2008, -12/+4Well if you want a piece of trash than go with what the cable company wants to give you. If you want something that you love then go with a real Tivo.
- samphex, on 10/07/2008, -13/+1...and then this itself crashes from the stock..
all the dominoes fall
Bum bum bummmm - inactive, on 10/07/2008, -23/+1Awesome. No wonder they were willing to whore themselves out to the Faux-bama campaign and give him an entire channel.
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