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OiNK.cd Servers Raided, Admin Arrested

torrentfreak.com — The servers of OiNK.cd - one of the most popular private BitTorrent trackers with over 180.000 members - are raided and the admin, a 24-year-old man from Middlesbrough, is arrested.

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  • kris33, on 11/06/2007, -7/+129Propaganda press release by IFPI:
    http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20071023. ...
    • Floris, on 10/29/2007, -4/+24whois ifpi.com (teehee)
      • blackbelt88, on 10/29/2007, -6/+30pirate bay for liiiiife!
        • stonedslacker, on 10/25/2007, -1/+28Well, the bad news is a lot of the stuff found on public trackers like piratebay etc used to originate from Oink members. The strict ratio requirements and difficult seeding there forced even the most passive leecher to consider actually consider ripping their own stuff and uploading so that they could maintain a good ratio.

          This is bad news for music fans all around the world. Which ofcourse means RIAA is probably very happy. Hopefully, not for long.
          • SurlyDuff, on 10/23/2007, -5/+1lol how did oink have strict ratio requirements? You could have a ratio of .15 and stay on.
          • andy2na, on 10/24/2007, -2/+1In a historic partnership with the RIAA, Federal authorities are now suggesting that they will seek to prosecute Oink users who have downloaded or shared in excess of 50 albums.
        • mywhitenoise, on 10/24/2007, -14/+5piratebay ***** sucks ass for music.
          Sucks for movies and games as well, demonoid is better for that.
          and the porn goes to cheggit.
        • killerofkiller, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2brings back bad memories
          http://digg.com/tech_news/ThePirateBay.org_Raided_ ...
      • jakethecake, on 10/23/2007, -3/+3http://www.who.is/whois-com/ip-address/ifpi.com/
      • n0rth_star, on 10/23/2007, -5/+6Sorry for the comment abuse, but who the hell deleted the wikipedia entry on OiNK?
      • mervis, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1Ifpi.org is down... ?
    • alexmuller, on 10/25/2007, -2/+16Erm, *****...
      • tarquell, on 10/24/2007, -3/+17yeah ***** facts about ***** donations and uploading.... and having to supply music to get in.... argh. this is also the basis of the bbc article which is equally ***** retarded in facts!
    • rye425, on 10/25/2007, -2/+50When will the RIAA and MPAA get it through their thick heads that P2P will always live on. You shut down one tracker and people will move to another. It's like Walmart, it's a unstoppable force that you should just stop resisting against.
      • fkr3, on 11/01/2007, -7/+92I bet you run out of guys willing to take a fall on your behalf before the RIAA and MPAA give up.

        You know what's funniest about this OiNK stuff? People are lamenting that the site's gone or that their good ratio is lost, they don't seem to give much of a crap that the guy who did it for them is probably going to spend the next couple of decades in bankruptcy recovery or getting ass-raped in prison.

        With support like that I'm sure you'll have no trouble finding others to assume the risk for you.
        • zeusthemoose, on 10/25/2007, -3/+14Sweden, my friend, Sweden.
          • fkr3, on 11/01/2007, -6/+25Sweden / TPB isn't forever. TPB is doing everything they can to diversify their holdings into strictly-legal revenue sources so when the law changes, which is inevitable even if it's not for a while, they can just drop TPB.
          • zeusthemoose, on 10/25/2007, -4/+18If the law changes in Sweden, file sharing will just move to another distribution method. Ever heard of darknet? File sharing will never end. Ever. You will not stop it, you cannot stop it.

            Whats sick is that back in the 80s you could tape whatever you wanted to on tv and on the radio and you could share it with your friends. Now because we can record lossless and have a better distribution method it somehow becomes illegal. Its a strange world we live in...
          • fkr3, on 10/23/2007, -26/+3@ zeus - file sharing's on it's last leg.

            Look at the last 12 months - 30,000+ people sued by the RIAA, several major sites shut down, a couple of major sites coerced into cooperating with the MPAA/RIAA, people put in prison, massive judgement for sharing music on Limewire or Kazaa or whatever that idiot woman used.

            And then on the pirates' side you've got.... ifpi.com, a domain nobody remembered to renew because they weren't using it for anything.

            It's not over but you sure aren't winning. The distribution method changing isn't going to make anyone any safer.
          • dude187, on 10/23/2007, -0/+4@fkr3

            On the pirates side you forgot to list the fact that nobody has been unable to download the shows and music they wanted...

            All those stupid things you listed sounded like a MAFIAA press release. Meanwhile in pirate land I was able to download all my favorite tv shows, movies and music to my heart's content. That's something I WOULD do legally if the MAFIAA would accept the fact that people don't like DRM, and they don't like physical disks.

            The people have seen the light of fast easy and cheap distribution, but the labels are scared of it. They have pressure from all angles of people who don't want to get cut out of the loop, and the progress of technology could do just that. Well filesharing is here, and with the advent of FOSS software (MS can and has been bought) there will never be any measures to stop me from copying the content I want freely and readily. Maybe one day the MAFIAA will wake up and see that they could increase their market size dramatically by just selling their content the way people have wanted it all along, and with the amount of new DRM free music stores opening up I'd wager that time is on the horizon, contrary to your conclusion.
          • fkr3, on 10/26/2007, -2/+3@dude - it's not a press release, just a comparison of what they're achieving vs. what copyright infringers are achieving.

            You're talking about the distribution method like that's the cause of piracy. It's getting increasingly easier to legally get good quality and unprotected files and it's only going to get easier. Apple, Yahoo, Microsoft, Amazon and more are all pushing on our behalf for more DRM-free content.

            Can they stop you copying their files? Well, you're bound by the law not to copy their intellectual property unless you have been granted the right to do so. That might not stop you but given the growing risk of real, financial consequences it will stop plenty of others. The law's not on your side, the copyright holders are actively fighting you, and now even ISP's are starting to work against you as well.
          • VinceNoir, on 10/26/2007, -0/+4So far only Amazon has made anything available to people who choose to use an alternative OS. And even there, that's only their DRM free MP3 files. I still can't install their downloader app since it's a Windows application and it won't run under Wine or ReactOS. My only option is to run a Windows XP virtual machine. I have principles and I'm not willing to violate them. I also have needs which must be satisfied: software with no cost other than a little time invested in compiling from source. If I was still in the Windows camp, I'd have to pay thousands of dollars a year to stay legit. I can't afford thousands of dollars a year for something as piddly as software.
        • ccheath, on 11/01/2007, -10/+4he knew what he was doing... he's a big boy... if he didn't know the risks then he almost deserves whatever he gets...

      • card51short, on 10/23/2007, -13/+10cops should stop worrying about murder too...people die all the time we gotta worry about our priorities.
        • bungoman, on 10/24/2007, -0/+12That's a horrible argument because you don't have a significant portion of the population committing murder. Any law that makes a large amount of your population criminals (or liable in a civil suit) is a bad law.
        • andrewdunger, on 10/24/2007, -3/+2so are you saying that if a significant amount of the population commits murder, then it becomes ok?

          Also, I would not say that a significant amount of the population does this. A significant amount of people 30 and younger do this, and maybe significant is going too far. You would be surprised how many people have no idea what torrenting is
          • sgtbutterscotch, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1You're right. bungonman's argument is horrible. It's like saying if most people think that something is ok, then it must be, hence, most people think torrenting is ok, so they digg bungoman's argument because it is supportive of torrenting. it's like arguing, in the 50s and 60s that the thought of blacks being inferior is an ok thought because most people agree with it.
          • Identity4, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1If a significant number of people are being classified as criminals because of a law, that DOESN'T make said criminal activities right. HOWEVER, it is a good indication of some underlying issue that needs to be addressed (beyond just suing everybody and imprisoning the whole world). Piracy is rampant. Piracy is also against the law. But it is also the result of consumers not getting what they want out of the media industries via "legal" channels. Maybe we should all focus on the PROBLEM rather than punishing the symptom.
      • computergod, on 10/24/2007, -0/+2>When will the RIAA and MPAA get it through their thick heads that P2P will always live on. You shut down one tracker and people will move to another. It's like Walmart, it's a unstoppable force that you should just stop resisting against.

        Obviously, they know it will continue. It is cheep for them to sue people and shut down sites compared to the market share they will lose, it's just simple economics. Such scare tactics do work, causing fear by making examples of people is a well established means of control. They see their market switching over to iTunes type services, a big reason people use those types of services is fear of getting sued.
    • jtmeyer, on 10/25/2007, -1/+13that article really is full of innaccuracies
    • KennMac, on 10/25/2007, -3/+16Take a look at the page source for oink.cd

      !--- SMILEY FACE ....

      ***** brit cops...
    • DiscoJohn, on 10/25/2007, -1/+73Isn't it sad that the pigs are the ones that shut down Oink?
    • Borbus, on 10/25/2007, -1/+31What a load of ***** from the IFPI. Their ***** is now in all the major media sites and will probably be in the papers tomorrow. They are saying the you had to pay to be a member of OiNK and that you had to upload music every day. This is just a lie and against the policy of OiNK. OiNK should sue them for libel.
      • dingdingding, on 10/25/2007, -1/+17But lying gets you rich! That's why they do it. ***** the artist - as long as the greedy bastards gets their ***** hands on the money. Real musicians are into it for the music. Real execs are into it for the musicians money.
      • cliffski, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1yes, thats a court case thats sure to be taken seriously. get a clue.
    • CraigB12, on 10/24/2007, -1/+19"A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's
      users"

      Does this mean they're actually going to go after all the users?
      • wedges, on 10/24/2007, -9/+1what he said
      • n0rth_star, on 10/23/2007, -4/+5oh yeah, get the users. great idea. you ***** wankers.
      • JaronDiggGuy, on 10/23/2007, -3/+3I bet it's just one last cheap shot to all the people that are saddened by the loss of one of, if not the, best trackers on the internet.
      • Abudiwa, on 10/24/2007, -0/+20of course not. remember lokitorrents?

        there's no way they're going to track down 180,000 users. the admins and the uploaders of the major pre-released cds are the ones that will pay.
        • notthemama, on 10/24/2007, -0/+8It's really weird. Wouldn't it make more sense to actually figure out who is leaking the albums? If the leaks continue to occur, they will merely move to other trackers or even other p2p systems.
          • TimmyGUNZ, on 10/24/2007, -0/+13Music Journalists are the ones in my experience who are leaking most of the stuff early.
      • buildbyflying, on 10/24/2007, -1/+5Their gameplan says they don't need to track 180k, just one and sue them for 180k.
        If anyone does get sued, I'll donate. I'm sure we can guilt the other 179.999k to do so as well...
    • drafhk, on 10/25/2007, -3/+27I swear that these guys and the RIAA and all these ***** are the new mafia. It's time for the ***** Boondock Saints.
    • Nerfdude, on 10/25/2007, -1/+14*****. it took so much goddamn effort to get into oink, and maintain my ratio, and find music they DIDN'T HAVE to upload. we need a copycat all high-quality music torrent site, and NOW.

      .....also, that's pretty much a bummer about the owner being arrested.
      • andsoitgoes42, on 10/25/2007, -0/+13Someone actually CARED that the guy got arrested. ARRESTED, so that dipwads like US can pirate music. And yet all people are asking is "Where can I get my music?!?!?" Selfish people, we are.
      • JasonDelta, on 10/23/2007, -0/+4What I wonder is, who is setting up a donation page for this guy's impending legal battle? I'll sure as hell donate. Someone do it. Please.
    • westondeboer, on 10/23/2007, -2/+0where can i go now for my music?
      • ChuyMatt, on 10/23/2007, -0/+5How about paying for it? I know this is novel, but un DRMed music is now an option. I make music and know too many people who do to not buy it, but I did use napster when there was no other option online. There ARE options that are not iTunes. Soon there will be more direct-from-artist options too.

        I have been rather impressed with amazon's system, even if it is controlled by the labels, it is a step in the right direction.
      • ricree, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1Or, instead of pirating RIAA music and continuing to perpetuate their hold over the music market, you could check out independent artists. A lot of them have some or all of their music freely available DRM free. Personally, I'd recommend starting with garageband.com, which has a ton of great artists with free music available, but there are tons of other great places to look.
    • Sassanix, on 10/23/2007, -3/+1www.filemp3.org is a good alternative ;)
    • Timmans, on 10/23/2007, -4/+2"Pre-release leaks are one of the most damaging forms of internet piracy that is currently eroding legitimate sales of music across the world."

      I mean, dear GOD! Music is meant to be sold! Acoustic enjoyment is NOT free, you silly 'pirates'.

      I hate the world today.
    • ettin, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1The Future of the Internet:

      http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html

  • Leaddeh, on 11/06/2007, -17/+522This is the worst news ever.
    • lava, on 10/25/2007, -6/+130so much for private trackers being safe
      • tarquell, on 10/25/2007, -3/+48high profile high traffic trackers are never safe. oink lasted longer than it should have i guess.
        • daza, on 10/24/2007, -0/+24This is true. I think there were over a quarter million users before it got shutdown.

          I am pissed though, even though I have other means and ways of getting music OiNK was fantastic for older, more obscure releases. I had built a good ratio and had released many things only to OiNK. Sad to see it go, hopefully something equally as good will replace it.
          • j3one, on 10/23/2007, -17/+1heh.. My ratio got screwed and I lost my account years ago. Probably a good thing. I wonder who squealed on them?
          • wafflez, on 10/25/2007, -2/+18*****...I had a 4.9 ratio D: (~30gb dl, 170gb ul) *sigh*, back to public trackers i guess.
          • saifatlast, on 10/23/2007, -2/+3OiNK was the only place where I routinely got 1MB/sec downloads. Now I'm going to have to go back to waiting 30 minutes to an hour for an album...
        • ThreeDee912, on 10/23/2007, -4/+3But... Low profile, low traffic private trackers barely have any good releases.
        • Jugalator, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1I don't really see the correlation.. Mininova is on its third year now, for example.
      • djphatjive, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1And you thought they were?
      • Seannaz453, on 10/24/2007, -7/+1Yeah, you guys are all blacklisted now. Be prepared to get hunted by your local Government.
        • Simonizer, on 10/24/2007, -4/+0I dunno if you have to worry about the government, but your ISP might be notified and might refuse to give you anymore internet service.
        • andrewcubbie, on 10/24/2007, -0/+5Haha good, all the more reason to get rid of Comcast
      • snugglebear, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1Small private trackers are. 180,000 members isn't really what I see as a underground private tracker :-P
    • itsthebrod, on 10/25/2007, -18/+50I think watching Fox News on any given day is considerably worse.
    • stonedslacker, on 10/24/2007, -14/+5Oh my God! They killed Oink. Those bastards.
    • mixmastabeef, on 10/25/2007, -6/+44WHATTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY LIFE Is RUINED!!!!!
      "A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's
      users"
      maybe even more so!
      • IllBeBack, on 10/24/2007, -2/+1Yeah, can you go ahead and take a seat right over there? I have a few questions about your illegal download activity. Go ahead and have some frozen lemonade.
    • airstrike, on 10/24/2007, -23/+6honestly, i'm sure it's bad, i don't like it either, but this is hardly 'worst news ever'. there are greater things out there than a private bt tracker.
    • GuitarWizard, on 10/24/2007, -5/+12One single tear is slowly rolling down my cheek...
      OiNK is dead; long live OiNK!
    • nightsweat, on 10/24/2007, -9/+6Worst ever. Screw Pearl Harbor.
    • moush, on 10/23/2007, -7/+2i'm laughing my ass off
    • Macshiba, on 10/23/2007, -4/+2In other bad news:

      http://digg.com/tech_news/TorrentLeech_Disables_In ...
    • BlackJackJester, on 10/23/2007, -1/+4Pretty soon the admins of those servers are just going to be using alias's to rent the servers under, and fake ID's. Then what, pigs? chasing ghosts, thats what. They don't blame crappy sales on increasingly crappy product, and rising costs. Its all the downloaders. Aren't companies to supposed to adapt to the market trends, instead of suing the ***** out of them?
    • merdiesel, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1This is ***** terrible news...
    • snapcase, on 11/02/2007, -1/+1This makes me smile. I got banned for "cheating my ratio" when I did nothing of the sort. The pricks are too strict and trust their "auto-detect" far too much.

      Good quality tracker, but I have no sympathy for this particular group.
  • Dcherub, on 11/10/2007, -13/+520I'm really sad about this - like genuinely upset...
    • SantaDuJuan, on 10/23/2007, -17/+2Yes, I never really got into using torrents to download music until I was invited to OiNK and now that's it gone, I don't know I'll use. All these albums I planned on downloading are now on hold.
      • raynar, on 10/23/2007, -35/+16yea, cause buying them would be too easy. Let me guess, "you werent going to buy them anyways".
      • paul0625, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1its called try before you buy :)
    • shagie, on 10/25/2007, -2/+55You will be missed, OiNK. You will always be oink.me.uk to me.
    • stonedslacker, on 10/24/2007, -3/+19I know exactly what you mean. Infact I am almost upset that this news was more upsetting to me than much worse stuff I read everyday. Guess I'm not as good a person as I thought I was. :'(
    • SteveCUBE, on 10/23/2007, -1/+21Quality FLAC music :(
    • n0rth_star, on 10/24/2007, -6/+18It's devastating. A friend texted me the news when I was in a maths lecture. I completely lost track of the rest of the lecture.
    • steenmachine, on 10/24/2007, -1/+6That's it, I can't handle this anymore.. I'm calling in sick for work..
      • Jugalator, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1At least you're being sarcastic... Right...? Right?
    • LogicBomB, on 10/24/2007, -7/+4Maybe if OiNK users weren't so elitist I would have been graced with the presence of an invite. Now I'll never know what the hell the big deal was about. Apprently keeping it to yourselves didn't stop them from shutting it down - maybe if it reopens we can share it a little more openly?

      Forgive me for sounding like I don't give two ***** but seriously - a lot of great seeders like myself got held out and met with a lot of "***** YOU!'s" from people apparently better connected than me.
      • Reostat, on 10/23/2007, -3/+4I didn't think it was elitist...most people were just scared to lose their invites (yes, it was that awesome).

        The amount of material was insane, and I seriously don't know where I'll get music now (or find out about new artists for that matter)...

        Here's hoping it gets back up. Infact LogicBombB, if it DOES get back up, and all the accounts are the same, hell, get a msg to me and I'll send you a "***** YA!" invite....
        • ricree, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1Look around for independent artists online. There are plenty that release a good portion of their work free and unencumbered by DRM. Personally, I use garageband.com , but I'm sure that other people can recommend plenty of other great sites.
      • SurlyDuff, on 10/23/2007, -1/+2lol oink had to be one of the easiest private trackers to get on. They gave away 2 invites to every user *per month* once they were power user, and you only needed 10GB uploaded to be a power user. If you're not well-connected enough to get onto oink, I want to know which sites you are on:P
      • GuitarWizard, on 10/23/2007, -3/+3I'm glad you didn't make it in with that attitude.
      • LogicBomB, on 10/24/2007, -2/+5Sorry to sound bitter but as someone who used to spend every spare moment on chats, on forums and socializing online until I got a job and a wife it is very frustrating trying to find any kind soul to lend a hand. I've asked on digg, on private forums, all my friends and did some google searching but everyone who had an account told me plain and simple that if I deserved it I'd be on it already.

        I pay for the fastest internet my ISP provides and just leave my laptop idling 8 hours a day (which could be seeding) but nope, had to resort to isohunt, torrentreactor, pirate bay, etc... it sucked.

        Reostat - I wish there were more people like you. I'll keep you in mind and thank you.
      • ettin, on 10/23/2007, -3/+3hey, you werent missing anything. And yes, i was a member for a year and they were elitist assholes, and at times i was ready to delete my account because i couldnt deal with thier ***** rules anymore. There will be better sites in its place soon that wouldnt impose share ratio's and rules like "If no one dl's your upload then we will delete it, even if you seed", yeah, thats REAL beneficial to creatiting a music library.
    • ettin, on 10/24/2007, -6/+3Get a ***** life. At least you have a damn roof over your head and food one the table. Bunch of spoiled brats.
    • SomeImagination, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2Does Dcherub want the biddy? Here succle the biddy, everythings gonna be aaalright
  • jtreach, on 11/06/2007, -12/+86This sucks arse.
    • robfis, on 10/23/2007, -3/+3


      This site has been closed as a result of a criminal investigation by IFPI, BPI,
      Cleveland Police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch Police (FIOD ECD) into
      suspected illegal music distribution.


      A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's
      users

      --what a bunch of tools--
    • jonvdveen, on 10/23/2007, -14/+13I know that I'm going to get dugg down, but I'm going to say this anyways.

      Why are people so aghast at the fact that a thief is arrested. I love DRM-free music. I love open-source software. I have even downloaded some songs from the internet. However, if I got caught doing that, I would blame one person: me! Seriously, if you're going to play with fire, don't bitch about the fact that you get burned. The guy in charge of OINK knew what he was doing. It was unethical, illegal, and it doesn't come as a surprise that he was arrested.

      I can't believe what people are willing to tell themselves to justify their actions. If you're going to steal, at least have the balls to call it what it is. That's the least you can do.
      • notthemama, on 10/23/2007, -6/+13But the thieves didn't get arrested. The RIAA is still not behind bars.
        • ICSU, on 10/23/2007, -1/+4notthemama, you proved his point.
          If you don't want RIAA's products, don't buy them. If you want to steal it, be ready for potential problems. If you want to have a website dedicated to it, set it up in a country where laws are lax and law enforcement non-existent in these cases.
          • teethman, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1I do believe that other music exists besides that of the RIAA. And that music owes its popularity to word of mouth, and people sharing. If you like the music then buy it, but I don't think we need to bring violence into this.
      • burke, on 10/24/2007, -4/+15Let's get one thing straight. He wasn't a thief. He ran a website that allowed people to infringe copyright. Theft played no part unless users were physically stealing the CDs they uploaded from a local music store.
        • moush, on 10/23/2007, -3/+3listen to mr. lawyer talk
        • IllBeBack, on 10/25/2007, -2/+3This always comes up. Well, let's get this one thing straight. Was it a crime? Yes? Then the guy is a criminal and so are you if you downloaded music for free. It doesn't matter if the name of the crime is "theft" or "copyright infringement", both are the result of you being unethical and breaking the law. So get the ***** over yourself and your asinine semantics, mkay?
  • yagidem, on 10/24/2007, -116/+9Damn Torrentfreak spam, there are more than enough digg submissions about this already that actually LINK DIRECTLY TO THE SOURCES instead of adding LOREM IPSUM crap:
    http://digg.com/offbeat_news/OiNK_has_been_raided_ ...
    http://digg.com/music/Oink_cd_Shut_Down

    But ooooh, more advertising money for Torrentfreak, great.
    • potofgravy, on 10/24/2007, -2/+45Have a cry. Just because one of the diggs was yours. Plus that link put it as oink.co.uk when that is clearly not the web address.
    • Dcherub, on 10/24/2007, -0/+39torrentfreak offers honest and well written news, with exactly the tone i want to hear.... stop being a douche
      • PA42, on 10/24/2007, -9/+4torrentfreak offers slanted and one sided news, that's why it is in the tone you want to hear. It's no different than a conservative watching fox news.
        • Alpione, on 10/24/2007, -4/+7Jeeze... I swear liberals must spend hours a day just sitting there seething that Fox News isn't liberal... Don't you guys have something better to do?
        • PA42, on 10/24/2007, -5/+4@alpone
          I'm not seething. I don't care what anyone watches, they just shouldn't think it's unbias.

      • actorboy, on 10/24/2007, -0/+7"honest and well written news"

        Honest and and well written? That must be why Demonoid chewed Ernesto's ass for publishing rumors as fact.
    • q1006662, on 10/24/2007, -2/+2***** YOU!!

      sorry. I'm just kind of emotional right now.....
  • dapbot, on 11/06/2007, -13/+82Sheizer. Seriously. If anyone is going to replace Oink, can you give me a heads up?
    • aspec, on 10/24/2007, -39/+4Did you use them? Just wait for your DMCA notice.
      • potp, on 10/24/2007, -3/+46If you ain't American then you can ask them to shove that DMCA notice right up to the place where the sun don't shine.
    • xYike, on 10/23/2007, -3/+18Will be tough to replace tem, that was a mature community of folks. One day ....
      • moush, on 10/23/2007, -8/+2it was mature? considering every comment about oink outside of oink involved "STFU" i think mature is the wrong word
    • vvaduva, on 10/23/2007, -25/+4Why don't YOU replace them...or do you just enjoy leeching off other people while they go to jail?
      • championchap, on 10/24/2007, -1/+15He PROBABLY dosnt know how to create a private bit torrent tracker like that, not all of us diggers do.
        If I had any idea, and I lived somewhere I could get away with it i'd be hard at work on one right now!
        • Chandon, on 10/23/2007, -1/+2If you want to start a private bittorrent tracker, knowledge shouldn't slow you down one bit. Us programmers generally accept money for work, and the donations that come in for a good private tracker should repay that initial investment in no time.
  • itsmedamon, on 11/06/2007, -10/+100UGH

    JUST got my power user status too!
    • NerveBand, on 10/23/2007, -9/+4It must be total coincidene because the same thing happened to me last night.
    • jferrari, on 10/25/2007, -2/+70That puts you at the top of the next to raid list.
      • itsmedamon, on 10/25/2007, -1/+27come get me
        • dorkino, on 10/29/2007, -8/+5They may not be knocking down your door (yet), but believe me you are being placed on a number of lists.
        • pault107, on 10/29/2007, -8/+3You think you're hard to track down Mr Barbieri? Two minutes on Google and I already know what you look like and your exact location on 31st October.

          I'm not meaning to freak you out, but I wouldn't taunt them - do you really think they're not reading these threads?
          • aaronm67, on 10/29/2007, -2/+2No, I really don't think they're reading these threads, because it would be a waste of time. They have IP addresses, which if they wanted to, they could contact ISPs and get physical addresses. Why would they read a random forum thread about the raid?
          • pault107, on 10/29/2007, -5/+2Because people give away so much information about themselves on the internet nowadays. Do you think they aren't interested in the guys on this board that are making comments like "I had a 4.9 ratio ~30gb dl, 170gb ul"?

            I know everyone likes to think the police are dumb, but most of them aren't. Surely they will be reading these threads and matching up your MySpace info/photos to the IP addresses they already have.

            Like the guy above commented "Come get me", I thought I'd test how easy it would be to locate him. Within two minutes I'd found his MySpace page that told me:

            Hometown: **
            Body type: **
            Ethnicity: **
            Religion: **
            Etc, etc.

            Plus lots of photos and dates and locations of where his band are playing.

            The police would be crazy not to use this information *along* with the IP addresses. I wouldn't call this 'a random forum' thread. They'll be watching Digg like a hawk to see what the community are saying.

        • bonedead, on 10/29/2007, -1/+8Haha after reading Pault107s comment I was intrigued to find out who this Damon ***** is as well. Nice MySpace fag, it compliments your 8 bit tie. ***** Massachusetts always thinkin they're invincible.
    • Spuy767, on 10/25/2007, -6/+40So much for my 52:1 Seed:Leech Ratio.
      • Margh, on 10/25/2007, -1/+38That must hurt, I mean, honestly.
      • pault107, on 10/24/2007, -2/+14Spuy, honestly, don't give out info like that on a public forum. You're advertising the fact that you are a major seeder. The authorities want to get hold of people like you and it's not hard to get more info about you on the net. I just posted this in a thread above this one, but I think it's worth repeating:

        -----------

        People give away so much information about themselves on the internet nowadays. Do you think they aren't interested in the guys on this board that are making comments like "I had a 4.9 ratio ~30gb dl, 170gb ul"?

        I know everyone likes to think the police are dumb, but most of them aren't. Surely they will be reading these threads and matching up your MySpace info/photos to the IP addresses they already have.

        Like the guy above commented "Come get me", I thought I'd test how easy it would be to locate him. Within two minutes I'd found his MySpace page that told me:

        Hometown: **
        Body type: **
        Ethnicity: **
        Religion: **
        Etc, etc.

        Plus lots of photos and dates and locations of where his band are playing.

        The police would be crazy not to use this information *along* with the IP addresses. Imagine they raid a house that has ten students living there, all sharing the same IP, no problem - they have a MySpace photo of the guy they want.
        • iigloo, on 10/23/2007, -1/+4We got it the first time, and chill, they won't come and get us. They're probably gonna go after the admins and such, they wont go after anyone of the 180,000 regular users. They simply wont, that doesn't help them. You scaring people does tough.
          • pault107, on 10/24/2007, -0/+7All I'm saying is don't advertise on a public forum how much you've uploaded. You may be proud of it, but it's not worth the risk.
        • dyranios2, on 10/23/2007, -3/+1No because what if I put his myspace as my profile URL also? Anyone can claim they are anything.
          • pault107, on 10/24/2007, -3/+1His MySpace link isn't in his Digg profile. Like I said, I Googled his Digg user name as it's *probably* unique, lots of info about him out there all pointing to the same guy.

            I'm just pointing out you have to be careful with your data, especially if you're taunting people.
    • Beakerz, on 10/24/2007, -1/+18Yeah this really sucks, i just donated $50 to them to get the extra stuff such as top10 and all and i was sitting on top of a nice 18-1 ratio :( makes me so sad
      • dorkino, on 10/24/2007, -21/+7Funding the criminal enterprise is never a good idea.
        • KMartSheriff, on 10/23/2007, -2/+9Stop ***** trolling
          • actorboy, on 10/23/2007, -2/+3Try covering your ears, closing your eyes and saying, "Lalalalalalalalalala...".
    • tells, on 10/23/2007, -2/+7yea.. so i'm kinda worried about what's gonna happen to us powerusers...
      • readerofbooks, on 10/23/2007, -0/+10i feel like they can only go after so many people
      • TimmyGUNZ, on 10/24/2007, -1/+9I think you'll be okay as long as you weren't uploading pre-release material. This seems to be the main reason the site was targeted. If the site had nearly 1/4 million users, it is almost logistically impossible to sue everyone.
      • burke, on 10/23/2007, -0/+6Most of the userbase on that site had poweruser status. I wouldn't be too worried.
  • EthanFeldman, on 11/06/2007, -17/+145hahah great. less than 24 hours after i get invited.
    AND
    three days before leopard :-(
    • kris33, on 10/25/2007, -4/+581 hour before Leopard. Someone was underway uploading it.
      • slamtv7, on 10/23/2007, -6/+3Think they might upload on another tracker?
        • kris33, on 10/23/2007, -0/+14There isn't another good private mac tracker that allows uploading of pre-release material.
        • thejokell, on 10/23/2007, -3/+12Demonoid is probably the best bet now.
          • saifatlast, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2Demonoid isn't even a real private tracker though. If you can get the .torrent, you can download it. They're never even that fast.
        • WalesAlex, on 10/23/2007, -1/+3So we're all ***** then.
        • Heymbit, on 10/23/2007, -3/+4try brokenstones.cn
          It's private, and Mac only. Windows belong in the wall, not the desk ^_^
          Not that much good stuff, but where I go when I want Mac stuff. If someone would upload Leopard there, it'd be a gold torrent in like 5 seconds.
        • TomFrost, on 10/23/2007, -1/+2"try brokenstones.cn"

          I'm trying to try brokenstones, but the site is at the maximum number of users. So I went to their invite request page, giving me instructions for who to PM what information to in order to get an invite. But you can't PM, because that forum's not accepting registrations either! The agony D:
        • Pravus198, on 10/23/2007, -2/+1Up on a few trackers Iv seen.

          APPLE.MAC.OSX.LEOPARD.V10.5.ISO-OSX.torrent

          Release: APPLE.MAC.OSX.LEOPARD.V10.5.ISO-OSX
          CDs: 1xDVD9
          Date: 10/2007

    • tarquell, on 10/23/2007, -2/+9what the final build? wow.... damn
    • xYike, on 10/24/2007, -0/+13Much better places to get Leopard though, dunno whyyou'd likk your ratio on OiNK to get it there.
      • BoxCarH, on 10/23/2007, -3/+0I doubt you'd likk [sic] your ratio by downloading Leopard. If anything, getting it once it hits the front page would be a boon to your ratio. It's going to get downloaded a lot and if you have decent upload bandwidth, you're going to be doing a lot of seeding.

        OS X rocks though and you should be paying for it.
    • Drizzit, on 10/24/2007, -14/+2 Why not just go plop down the 129 dollars for the upgrade? If you can afford a Mac I'm sure you can afford to get a software upgrade.

      I can understand stealing a copy of XP or even Vista. OS X is worth paying for.
      • yonis, on 10/24/2007, -1/+4What if we did pay for it, but wanted it sooner?
        • timjim31, on 10/24/2007, -4/+2yeah righttt
        • burke, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1It's legitimate -- they only ship out the upgrade on the 26th, which means you won't get it until 3-10 days later.
          • TimmyGUNZ, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1Not true. If you pre-order it from Apple.com they guarantee it ARRIVES on the 26th
    • Fantom, on 10/24/2007, -5/+2Beware of the leopard
  • duckyinc, on 11/06/2007, -15/+68Why did torrentfreak blur his face? I want to look at my hero's face..
    • Hemingrubbish, on 10/24/2007, -1/+33bbc blurred it.
    • cliffski, on 10/25/2007, -25/+4your hero is a thief? wow, you are seriously ***** up. this guy will get a criminal record and probably never get a job again, and id expect his current job is void too. Nice hero, a guy who will flip burgers for the rest of his days.
      • AlleyKatz, on 10/24/2007, -5/+15Maybe you like being one of the sheep....doesn't mean everyone else does. Now go back to your cubicle!
        • moush, on 10/23/2007, -3/+2you're probably too young to get a job anywhere except mcdonalds
        • cliffski, on 10/24/2007, -3/+2dont work in cubicle kiddo., and you really think you are so ***** individual by stealing music? grow up.
    • lycanter, on 10/23/2007, -3/+3Most of Jesus' people probably thought he was unemployable as well with all those unorthodox views and temple market crashing. geez what a saviour.
  • bindasj, on 11/06/2007, -11/+274Oink should move to Sweden. That seems like the only cool country these days.

    Oh and ***** those pigs.
    • xYike, on 10/24/2007, -0/+27Not sure that will be much of an option for the guy in jail. :(
    • Damian91, on 10/23/2007, -28/+21They're only doing their jobs, why the ***** are you mad at the cops?
      • daza, on 10/24/2007, -13/+48Because they should be out finding serial rapists, murderers and paedophiles instead of chasing torrent sites. I know it's not their decision to decide who they chase, but we're mourning, let us vent mmkay?
        • Damian91, on 10/23/2007, -21/+19THEY Do what they have to ***** do. It's not like they're supposed to stop someone speeding and go "wait, theres a murderer out there somewhere". They didn't chase them, they just arrested them. I respect the police.
        • msgyrd, on 10/24/2007, -1/+22You do realize, regardless of what news sources want you to believe, there aren't that many known serial rapists, murderers or pedophiles out there in the general population for police to track down, and beyond that, grossly violent and sexual crime are not the only things that society needs protection from?

          Having been a police dispatcher in a small town for 4 years now, I can honestly say the majority of our cases that aren't routine traffic are regarding domestic disturbances and things involving alcohol (fights, driving, public disturbance, minors in possession).

          • zouhair, on 10/23/2007, -3/+4And when are they going to arrest Blair? he was more harmful to the UK and the World than Oink admin.
      • godofgodlygods, on 10/24/2007, -6/+9The Nazi SS was only doing their job. Police and political figures can and must be held accountable for the morality and immorality of their actions.
        • actorboy, on 10/23/2007, -4/+5As should citizens. This guy is being held accountable.
        • Hoopkidups, on 10/27/2007, -5/+2@godofgodlygods:
          So you think arresting someone who ran a website which linked to content violating copyright laws is comparable to murdering Jews?
          • godofgodlygods, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1The SS didn't just murder Jews, so don't single the Jews out like they're special, because they're not. Far more non-Jews were killed during the holocaust than were Jews.

            Of course the severity of the crimes is not comparable but we can't make exceptions just because the crime isn't as bad.
      • notthemama, on 10/24/2007, -1/+4Are they really doing their jobs? Is hosting a torrent site actually illegal or did they shut it down because of pressure from the RIAA, which translates to orders from above, which means money was given to a politician.
        They weren't doing their jobs. They were acting as hit men for a site that bothered some folks that own some politicians.
        • chitlin, on 10/24/2007, -1/+1Copyright infringement has always been a civil matter. Until the RIAA started lobbying to make it criminal to host sites like this in various countries, their only recourse was lawsuits. Now the Gestapo is knocking down doors and putting people in prison.
      • Handcannons, on 10/24/2007, -1/+0"They're only doing their jobs, why the ***** are you mad at the cops?" Man are you going to get dugg down...
    • GeForce8800GTX, on 10/24/2007, -11/+8You want to ***** pigs? What?
    • rmeddy, on 10/24/2007, -2/+9"***** those pigs" for killing oink. oh the irony of your statement.
    • toonworld, on 10/23/2007, -1/+2goddam pig *****
    • bardamuclichy, on 10/24/2007, -0/+4I'm sure this will work to stop music sharing... just like it worked with Napster and Audio Galaxy.

      Don't these clowns know they're fighting a 1,000,000 headed hydra? If the demand is there, then the supply will be met to meet it.
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1They'll have to move out of jail first.
    • skyshock1, on 10/24/2007, -0/+2Sweden FTW!!! Hot blondes, metal, 6 months of night, Opera Web Browser, Viking descendants, The Pirate Bay.... what more could you ask for?
      • meeee, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1Opera is a NORWEGIAN browser, you insensitive clod!!
  • chenbot, on 11/06/2007, -5/+47but but... I need my oink...
    • havefun1234, on 10/24/2007, -1/+2can someone explain to me what is illegal about hosting torrent files, its not like the OiNK servers have the illegal music files on them.
      • moush, on 10/24/2007, -7/+2go research
        • gwinerreniwg, on 10/24/2007, -0/+3One of biggest and most confusing legal issue of recent times, and instead of clarifying, you say go research. Nice. And that helped inform how many people?
      • gwinerreniwg, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2First of all, I do not support these positions, but here is the legal reasons this was allegedly illegal. The info pasted below reflects the Napster case which set precident (at least in the US) for most of these things relative to filesharing cases.

        Direct Infringement
        Direct copyright infringement is copying of a work owned by another. To show infringement, a party must prove she owned copyright to the work, that the infringer had access to the work and that it was copied. The Ninth Circuit held that the District was not in error in holding that Napster users were likely engaged in direct copyright infringement of the works cataloged by Napster and that Napster was unlikely to succeed in establishing that Napsters' users had a "fair use" defense. In other words, Napster users were likely guilty of copyright infringement and without a valid defense.

        Contributory Infringement
        Contributory infringement is when one party helps another to infringe a copyright. To prove contributory infringement, a party must show that the infringer knew or had reason to know of the direct infringement, provided a material contribution to the infringement and that the direct infringement existed. The Ninth Circuit held that if a computer system operator learns of infringement and fails to purge the infringing materials from its system, it is liable for contributory infringement. The court also held that a computer system operator cannot be held liable merely because its system may be used for infringement. Finally, the court held that in Napster's case, Napster was likely to be guilkty of contributory infringement since the facts showed that Napster had knowledge of the infringing activity and its system contributed to the infringing activity.

        Vicarious Infringement
        Vicarious infringement is when one party supervises or controls another party who engages in infringing activity and the supervising party has a direct financial interest in such activities. The court held that Napster had a financial interest in the infringing activities, had the ability to block user's use of its system which was proof of its ability to supervise or control users, and its failure to police its system gave rise to vicarioius liability.

        So since theoretically, OiNK knew the torrents pointed to (directly) infringing works, they are guilty of Contributory and Vicarious infringement. At least that is going to be the prosecution's tack.
  • zCharden, on 11/06/2007, -7/+127=(
    Never will my downloads go as fast as they did on OINK. So close to the Christmas free leach!
    • NicksVideo, on 10/23/2007, -21/+12Never on torrents... on Usenet your only limit is your downstream bandwidth. Check with your ISP, chances are you have some form of Newsgroup access available for free.
      • NerveBand, on 10/23/2007, -30/+6Just STFU, torrents are superior.
        • NicksVideo, on 10/23/2007, -4/+19I'm not arguing what's 'superior', I'm trying to help him by suggesting an alternative and pointing out one of its advantages. Sorry if that upsets you.
          • Stalks, on 10/24/2007, -1/+10Torrents are more than capable of offering a bandwidth busting service. Public torrents, not so, as you know the protocol relies on others sharing to give good results. Private trackers however have the advantage of attaching upload statistics to an account, so together with a ratio system it makes torrents a very viable service. There are however some risks involved. Public torrents display your IP and download information to the public, its very insecure. But then private torrents hold onto your share ratio and possibly other data and attach it to an account. If, like what has happened here, the tracker provider is compromised by anti-piracy agencies, then if the account is linked to a person then the data history can be used against you.

            Usenet however offers a good service based on a very important rule. Newsgroup retention. Your ISP may offer a newsgroup service but it may not hold newsgroup data long enough to allow you to gather all the posts to put together the files you need. Giganews and Easynews are two third-party providers which come to mind that offer a good enough service to make Usenet shine. In all however, both torrents and newsgroups offer a similar service should they meet the requirements. YMMV.
        • TomFrost, on 10/24/2007, -2/+20Dude. Take the goddamn hint. Good services get attacked when people start talking about them. Think on that for a minute, then start agreeing that torrents are, in fact, superior.
        • NicksVideo, on 10/23/2007, -5/+9"Good services"? Usenet isn't quite a 'service'. It's not going anywhere, no matter how popular it gets. Stop treating it like some huge secret.
        • TomFrost, on 10/23/2007, -7/+8"It's not going anywhere" -- riiight. Until the top 5 providers get sued into the ground for not filtering their content, the next top 5 voluntarily either shutting down or doubling their prices for the increased risk, and everyone else installing content filters. Sure, there's hundreds of servers, but how many -- honestly -- have high bandwidth and can reliably serve your area? It only took one person talking to bring down OiNK.
          • DarkStalker, on 10/24/2007, -2/+5So I assume you were there when this "one person" talked about OiNK?
            I'm sure they had their eye on OiNK for a long time... no need for one person to talk.
      • windmillninja, on 10/24/2007, -3/+16No. NEVER use Usenet. It's full of viruses and will give you herpes, as well as take your mother out to dinner, but not walk her to the door.
        • behn1220, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2Thats right...stay AWAY from Usenet. Just keep using your torrents...everyone knows that they are vastly superior. Thats why all of these trackers keep getting shut down...if Usenet was better than torrents, "they" would have shut it down years ago. ;)
    • illt, on 10/23/2007, -0/+4Tell me about it, my HD crashed recently with all my oink files. i figured i would just wait until xmas to recover :(
  • itsmedamon, on 10/24/2007, -27/+7aw come on, 2 stories on the front page?

    stick with the one with more diggs guys
  • Marcelius, on 10/24/2007, -11/+5Anybody knows of a similar site? The ones I know are focused to scene releases only and with OiNK you could get old and rare stuff too.

    A very sad day indeed.
  • Hojohto, on 10/23/2007, -15/+9Ok, I'm kinda glad my account lapsed more than a year ago.
  • ryanschmidt, on 10/23/2007, -6/+24OiNK was by far the best... NOOO!!!
  • Rowan187, on 10/24/2007, -10/+247Damn. TVLINKS and OINK in the same week. Both in their 20's. This is another sad day for piracy.

    See you in Sweden!
    • carlj133, on 10/24/2007, -0/+16And there both from UK. Seems UK is cracking down on things.
  • badenglishihave, on 10/24/2007, -7/+188Wow... arrested for hosting a torrent site. *shakes head*
    • Borbus, on 10/23/2007, -1/+15I know. Since when is it a crime to host a torrent site in the UK?

      I think the IFPI lied and said that you had to pay to use OiNK which would make it counterfeiting. The truth is that OiNK never committed any crime, though.
      • jus1haz2, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1Its because they had to buy an invite to get in haha morons..
    • sspooner, on 10/24/2007, -29/+9Facilitating piracy is a crime in the UK. Serves him right.
      • JaronDiggGuy, on 10/24/2007, -5/+21***** off.
      • aaaaaakash, on 10/24/2007, -2/+14Piracy? even though nobody was selling anything?
        • actorboy, on 10/23/2007, -3/+3You're wrong on both accounts.

          Piracy Defined:
          The unauthorized duplication of goods protected by intellectual property law (eg copying software unlawfully).
          Source: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/readinessguide/glossa ...

          Note the lack of words like selling, profit, compensation, etc. Piracy is not defined by monetary gain.

          Yet, Oink was making money regardless. You would know this if you sought real news rather than relied on TorrentFreak's selective spin. To quote:

          "The invitation-only OiNK Web site specialized in distributing albums leaked before their official release by record companies. Its 180,000 members paid "donations" to upload or download the albums, often weeks before their release, and within hours would post the albums to public forums and blogs across the Internet."
          Source: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/23/europe/E ...


        • Ory303, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2@actorboy

          1. Going by your definition, Google (or any search engine) facilitates piracy by simply providing links.
          2. Donating money to OiNK was never a requirement for anything, that's the definition of a donation. Donating to anybody or anything is perfectly legal.
        • Matt2k, on 10/24/2007, -3/+1> 1. Going by your definition, Google (or any search engine) facilitates piracy by simply providing links.

          It has to do with intent.

          > 2. Donating money to OiNK was never a requirement for anything, that's the definition of a donation. Donating to anybody or anything is perfectly legal.

          Aiding criminals is a crime.

          I'd write more but this entire post was too stupid to even contemplate.
      • merdiesel, on 10/24/2007, -1/+1Really, why are you here?...
        As you can see by how many times you've been dugg down, we don't want you here. Now go buy a $20 piece of ***** album, and suck the record labels dick while your at it.
  • senatorpjt, on 10/24/2007, -35/+81I was never cool enough to get an invite anyway, so it's no loss for me.
    • Pobotrol, on 10/23/2007, -4/+33No worries, I'll send you one!
      • geodescent, on 10/23/2007, -6/+12ZOMG invite plz! lol /obligatory invite request that appears in any thread mentioning the word 'oink'
    • SantaDuJuan, on 10/24/2007, -2/+7Watch it, he could be working for them!
    • sspooner, on 10/24/2007, -10/+6Actually, you were lucky to not get one. That little piece of "uncoolness" just saved you a load of legal hassles. They WILL sue seeders.
      • airstrike, on 10/23/2007, -0/+7i hardly doubt they'll try to sue anyone in .br
      • sp1r1t, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2I also doubt that they'll be willing to hassle with litigations across seas.
      • ninxmz, on 10/24/2007, -2/+1I furthermore doubt that they have clean underwear.
    • jd72277, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1timing is everything. I had 5 invites 24hrs ago.
    • merdiesel, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1But you were trying to get in and there for you support the bittorrent community... so it is a loss for you, and big ***** loss for all of us!
  • JonathanB, on 10/23/2007, -30/+13Wow, I might have to actually buy music now.
    • n0rth_star, on 10/24/2007, -2/+10You're delusional. Snap out of it.
  • Nostromo13, on 10/23/2007, -14/+4*said in slow motion* noooooooooooooooooo!
  • lidri, on 10/24/2007, -8/+109***** the IFPI and the BPI.
    • potp, on 10/23/2007, -1/+33for some reason it just doesn't the ring that ***** THE MPAA AND RIAA HAS.
    • bobbyi, on 10/24/2007, -1/+16Shouldn't it be something like "bugger the iFPI and the BPI"?
  • peroosal, on 10/24/2007, -9/+66You will never see that 24 year old ever again.
    • stimpack, on 10/24/2007, -0/+18He will get more time than if he killed someone, thats Britain in 2007 for ya.
    • ubergeek09, on 10/24/2007, -4/+1I wonder if he will get banned from using computers forever, like Kevin Mitnick?
      • Jugalator, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1So wrong.. He was not allowed access to comms technology. But he fought that and gained that right too. Now he works as a computer consultant. :-p
    • ettin, on 10/24/2007, -4/+2Good.
  • Saku, on 10/24/2007, -13/+123I can finally type now that I have stopped crying. It is a sad day...very sad..Oink was the best...
    • Smokezz, on 10/23/2007, -13/+15Pssst... a site will replace it. Get a life.
    • JaronDiggGuy, on 10/23/2007, -5/+13Too bad you don't know what Oink was like, you'd be saying something differently. A community, prereleases, rare stuff in every genre, programs. The forum. The people.

    • derek20cali, on 10/24/2007, -10/+9Crying over a website? Is this what society has turned into?
      • defectDS, on 10/24/2007, -1/+6Crying over the loss of a great community, fine. Crying over Britney Spears on YouTube, now that's when society is *****.
    • aphid360, on 10/23/2007, -5/+4oink was my life. :'[
    • bingobongony, on 10/23/2007, -4/+4it would be pretty sad if you actually cried over it. Are you 5?
    • ettin, on 10/24/2007, -4/+1Bunch of herd minded circle jerks that get their panties in a twist when they can no longer "be with thier precious online friends".

      lol, you want to know why this country is so ***** up, heres a hint...

      ITS YOU.
  • sc0rpi0n, on 10/24/2007, -94/+12You guys are sad because you can't pirate musics? C'mon!
    The servers are confiscated for the investigators to copy all the logs to use as evidence against illegal seeders. Don't pity the admin or the owner of the tracker, coz they'll get their servers back alright. But if you happen to be a long time seeder, you might be in big trouble real soon.
    • NerveBand, on 10/24/2007, -11/+37Shut the ***** up. No Seriously, just shut up because we all love Oink and your stupid comments are hurting us further.
      • Damian91, on 10/23/2007, -9/+8Please feel free to squirt a few tears for youtube. Get a ***** grip.
    • Bombfrog, on 10/23/2007, -31/+15Nerveban, are you like 4 years old ?

      sc0rpi0n makes a very good point. You guys can't pretend that you're surprised that something this illegal has been shut down.

      Do people on this site just abuse people and 'bury' their comments if they don't agree with them, even if the comment was polite and well constructed ? If that's the case then I think I joined the wrong site.
      • jtmeyer, on 10/23/2007, -2/+12time to get off digg then for you
        • Pixelante, on 10/23/2007, -1/+5So, what are you gonna do when Big Media buys off Digg? It will happen, you know. Any moment.
    • sspooner, on 10/23/2007, -5/+5Yup, I agree. The kids just don't get it. I'd hazard a guess that as we speak their laser printer is busy printing out thousands of letters to the ISP requesting IP to name / address resolution for the purpose of getting the pirates in court.
      • JaronDiggGuy, on 10/23/2007, -3/+2We get it. Doesn't mean we want to think about it when we're mourning the loss of an amazing tracker. Quit trolling and get a life.
      • aaaaaakash, on 10/23/2007, -2/+1i thought IP's were protected by the use of a passkey? anyone know?
        • cmikesell, on 10/24/2007, -0/+1AhahahahahahaahHAHAHAHAHAHA IPs Protected!
  • corbs132, on 10/24/2007, -4/+56This is the first article I looked at on digg and literally said aloud, "what the *****!" Does this mean the members will be seeing fancy lawsuits?
    • jposty, on 10/24/2007, -12/+3I hope not... but at least i was using Peer Guardian 2.
      • TomFrost, on 10/24/2007, -0/+12PeerGuardian stops your computer from connecting to known agencies' IP addresses. They don't stop your computer from normal seeding, and being listed on the tracker's database. And that's what they have, now.
        • dtay2827, on 10/23/2007, -1/+4OINK IPs are hashed in the database
        • EmSixTeen, on 10/23/2007, -0/+5Hashes aren't perfect. I doubt we'll be seeing lawsuits though.. Even though my ratio was 3:1. :x
      • sspooner, on 10/23/2007, -1/+2Hehe, with idiocy like this you deserve to be first.
      • Protoss, on 10/23/2007, -0/+3I doubt they're going to go after seeders and whatnot, too much work for them. They'd rather just take down the site, sue the pants off the admins and be done with it.
    • weareglass, on 10/24/2007, -0/+18There's no way they could legally pursue every single member of OiNK. My guess is they just went after the head. I guess it's theoretical they might go after a few prominent seeders
    • TimmyGUNZ, on 10/24/2007, -1/+17I would imagine the only users that should be ***** their pants are the scenesters who were uploading pre-release albums on a constant basis.

      Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't all the lawsuits thus far target people who were sharing the music on P2P sites in their shared folders? I haven't heard of people being sued for just downloading.
      • traceur, on 10/23/2007, -0/+22the nature of the torrent system (and oink's strict ratio system) ensures that every member on the site shared at least 40% as much as they downloaded
    • sspooner, on 10/23/2007, -5/+2In a word, yes.
      • drtyfrnk, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2In a few words, you have no idea what you are talking about.

        The answer is no. They remove the site, and that's all they do. possibly some big seeders, but that's all they will go for.
    • silversalute, on 10/25/2007, -0/+1The rumor is that they have assembled a huge special legal team to start churning out cases.
  • JenadaeXX, on 10/23/2007, -6/+21Worse new in weeks... really.. this sucks
  • HippieKiller, on 10/24/2007, -29/+7Usenet FTW.
    • windmillninja, on 10/23/2007, -4/+3Shut UP
    • behn1220, on 10/23/2007, -2/+1The first rule of Usenet is you don't talk about Usenet. Don't make you tell you rule #2...just let them use their torrents.
    • Jedwards32, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2To bad that God forsaken group of flunkies called the RIAA are going after usenet next :( they think they have brass since they charged that single mother 220,000 dollars for a few files they couldn't prove she downloaded...a sad day for the community, just a little *arr* for today...
  • nnnr, on 10/23/2007, -6/+16I can't believe it, my favorite site....
  • SAIIIKO777, on 10/25/2007, -14/+142User name adamlazz tipped off the police for a cash reward. He is completely responsible for the closure of the site.
    • yagidem, on 10/23/2007, -10/+36No, it was saiiiko777
    • HippieKiller, on 10/25/2007, -6/+178Tipped off? Who the ***** didn't know about OiNK?
      • Caluen, on 10/24/2007, -13/+45Me for one...
        • MrMacMan, on 10/23/2007, -6/+3Well then you sir are an idiot.
          • toonworld, on 10/24/2007, -0/+6he is not an idiot. He was just ignorant... and now he knows what Oink is, so he is no longer ignorant about oink.

            We're all ignorant about something, doesn't make us idiots
      • CopyNinja, on 10/24/2007, -12/+17Yeah ive never heard of it until now either.
      • meez, on 10/23/2007, -1/+73"It follows a two-year investigation by music industry"

        Took them two years to find out about OiNK... ouch.
        • championchap, on 10/24/2007, -1/+63Two years to get an invite.
        • Heymbit, on 10/28/2007, -2/+9Sorry meez, I ment to hit the thumbs up button, and accidentally hit thumbs down. Sorry.
        • Smokezz, on 10/23/2007, -8/+3***** some people are stupid.. two year investigation does not equal two years to find out about the site... get a clue.
        • moush, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1they just wanted to build a case against him, they probably just now had enough proof to put him away for life. GG
        • djghosttrain, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1i read a thread about celebritys who use oink, the owner of pitchfork was rumored to have a username
        • crazybrit, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1The "owner of pitchfork" is a celebrity?
      • KidVicious, on 10/23/2007, -1/+2Me for two. Never heard of it until today. Wish I had...
    • jetsetter883, on 10/24/2007, -1/+34haha tipped off? as if Oink was some Columbian drug cartel?
      • Osceola, on 10/23/2007, -9/+3I didn't realize South Carolina had drug cartels - it's Colombia, dumbass!
    • bingobongony, on 10/23/2007, -0/+3If private trackers were some big secret and it were therefore that easy for members to get "cash rewards" for turningthem in, EVERY private tracker would be down.
  • McoreD, on 10/23/2007, -1/+18Whoa this is like the randomest news ever I saw when I got back from work. i wonder what happens to the community
    all like just vanished like after an atomic bomb.
  • dragongrrl, on 10/24/2007, -6/+85
    holy crap -- they arrested the guy. man, this is a dark day. and i'm not even an Oink user!

    time to go darknet, i guess. yipes. welcome to 1984.
    • Heymbit, on 10/24/2007, -1/+15It's not 1984...yet. More like 1982. Only 2 years left guys!
    • DraconWolf, on 10/24/2007, -12/+3Why? Because you can't steal music or movies anymore? So now it's like 1984 because you can't do illegal stuff?
      • tiraid, on 10/23/2007, -2/+2The point is whether "illegal stuff" should be illegal. In "1984", things were considered deviant that no one in their right mind would consider immoral. The consensus here seems to be that sharing media should not be illegal.
    • bingobongony, on 10/24/2007, -8/+4I have to say...a lot of ***** idiots talk about 1984 when the situation is NOTHING like 1984. But this one takes the case.
      The guy violated the law. And is in jail. How is that related to 1984? At NO point should freely distributing other people's creative works be legal. Stop kidding yourself that you are Rosa Parks when you use Bit Torrent.
      • bardamuclichy, on 10/24/2007, -0/+3it was a friggin torrent site you asshat. Do you even understand how bit torrent works? He was arrested on 'suspicion of conspiracy to defraud' and 'infringement of copyright law'.

        Some crime. What a joke.
    • nemo107, on 10/24/2007, -0/+0what's 1984?
  • Tejiant, on 10/24/2007, -10/+6First tv-links and now this. At least there's still ubernet for music.
  • andyd2k, on 10/23/2007, -2/+11Well, this sucks
  • kamisama, on 10/24/2007, -3/+47A legend died.
  • amneosis, on 10/24/2007, -5/+27It only Tuesday
    • jd72277, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1where did I see that... wait, is that from the onion?
      • amneosis, on 10/25/2007, -0/+2yeah, for me it just perfectly expresses the sheer futility of it all, applies to all ***** news on a Tuesday.
  • saxonthebeach, on 10/24/2007, -2/+54The greatest news ever right now would be that someone has been backing up the servers remotely in the event that something like this happened.....please let it be true
    • dtay2827, on 10/23/2007, -0/+4That would be amazing!
    • EmSixTeen, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2Yeah, I can hope.
    • joyntkid, on 10/23/2007, -0/+17I believe the site was being backed up daily.
      Something will pop up, maybe not exactly oink, but something will hapen.
      • saxonthebeach, on 10/23/2007, -0/+6Thats true, I forgot. I hope those backups weren't stored in the same place....
      • Protoss, on 10/23/2007, -0/+6I was just thinking about this. It's backed up every day at 3AM, so the backups exist, we just have to hope they are kept with somewhere safe.
    • alecks, on 10/25/2007, -1/+37***** backups, I'm hoping they were smart enough to implement a self destruct script, so if any of them saw swat guys or whatever coming through the doors, at least one of them would have time to double click self-destruct script, which would erase their database/logs of all user activity.
      • ryptide, on 10/23/2007, -0/+7Here's hoping...
      • Palastanga, on 10/23/2007, -0/+9And encrypted file systems.
      • n0rth_star, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1I doubt we could be so lucky as for all the data to be erased. What are the chances that someone could be quick enough to do that, and surely the erase itself would take a good while..?
      • palmtree3000, on 10/23/2007, -0/+4Self destruct script=electromagnet.
        Or a pickax.
        Either way, time would not be an issue.
    • ghawg, on 10/24/2007, -0/+7Oink seemed to be a one-man-operation. There was one admin, and about a dozen or so volunteer moderators. Not a very decentralized organization if you ask me... it might not pop up again that easily.
      • ExofusionX, on 10/23/2007, -0/+4I believe the main admins were both OiNK and TooMuchTime
      • Protoss, on 10/23/2007, -0/+5Or so they made it seem...
  • Rozza, on 10/23/2007, -5/+22i guess
    it was super seeded
  • Damien79, on 10/23/2007, -12/+41Englishman #1
    "Hey, i have a great idea, let's start up an awesome torrent site hosted on servers located within the reach of the MPAA and DMCA notices and all the rest of the stuff we are supposed to be avoiding".

    Englishman #2
    "Im uploading the site to a netfirms server as we speak"
  • HYPRN0VA, on 10/23/2007, -11/+3WHAT?! tv links is down, too?

    what the ***** is happening
  • jposty, on 10/23/2007, -12/+2Tis a shame... at least there is indietorrents.com. RIAA has no jurisdiction over them!
    • themoose, on 10/24/2007, -0/+15RIAA had no jurisdiction over OiNK either.
    • EmSixTeen, on 10/24/2007, -0/+9They don't have any jurisdiction over OiNK, either, hence why it wasn't them..
  • Julz, on 10/23/2007, -7/+33i dunno what day is/was worse... today or the day that suprnova died
    • polyphonic, on 10/23/2007, -2/+1i don't know why i thought that was an oasis ref. i can't think! barry get the will! i don't know what i'm saying!
    • clearrecrd, on 10/24/2007, -1/+7suprnova.org came back a few weeks ago. Not as good as the old but they are rebuilding.
    • libertao, on 10/23/2007, -8/+3Nothing can touch when Napster died. :'-(
    • RAEP, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1REPRESSED MEMORIES D:
  • Skidmark66, on 10/23/2007, -3/+5man, i loved that site, bummer, seriously was great, oh well . . .
  • TheNik, on 10/24/2007, -4/+38I'm waiting for the *AAs to sue Google for hosting copyrighted files. They will thus meet their maker.
    • fkr3, on 10/24/2007, -2/+20The difference between Google and torrent sites is it's incidental that there is copyrighted materials available on Google. With torrent sites it's incidental if there's non-copyright material available.
      • clperez390, on 10/24/2007, -3/+7Pretty much everything Google links to is copyrighted, unless it has been explicitly placed into the public domain.
        • fkr3, on 10/23/2007, -5/+5Dress it up any way you want, you know exactly what I meant and you know I sure didn't mean some kid's holiday photos.
          • clperez390, on 11/04/2007, -0/+1I mean that in the United States, everything is copyrighted, from the second you make it, unless you put it into the public domain.
    • MalDON, on 10/23/2007, -1/+1You could also say that a torrent site doesn't necessarily targets copyrighted material, thus making its content illegal by incident. I mean it's user uploaded! Anyone who has seen how hard it is for Google to keep stupid copyrighted songs on Youtube knows that it's tough to monitor user generated content.
      • bingobongony, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2You COULD say that. But it would make you look like an idiot. And NO reasonable jury or judge would agree with you.
    • diagonalfish, on 10/24/2007, -0/+5Going after companies with lots of money is not nearly as fun for them as it is to go after soccer moms and grannies.
      • bingobongony, on 10/24/2007, -2/+1Because soccer moms should be allwoed to distribute content without authorization?
  • kryptman40k, on 10/23/2007, -5/+18guess i don't have to worry about my ratio anymore!! rofl.
    jk :D
    I think it was a good site for remixes that weren't official anyway. I know some used it as a place to get new albums but It seemed best for obscure music.
    • weareglass, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2Really? I never thought it had enough obscure stuff, but it was good for obvious stuff and current stuff that was relatively well known. You can find bootleg remixes out on the MP3 blogs like Discobelle and Palms Out Sounds. I find Soulseek better for obscurities, even though it's nowhere as nice to use as OiNK was, plus OiNK was fantastic for prerelease stuff.
    • cmgarcia, on 10/23/2007, -0/+3That's so funny, I heard this news on the way to work from a friend, and my first thought was, "Hm, I guess I don't have to worry about my ratio anymore, I was kind of worried about it."
    • bingobongony, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1yeah..."some" used it for new albums. "Some" meaning 99.999% of users.
      • GGreen420, on 10/23/2007, -0/+1reading your comments in this thread I realize you have no idea what your talking about. Its clear you did not have an Oink's account. Oink's was not for "new" stuff like that article says and you keep repeating. It was a source of old unreleased albums, live shows, vinyl rips, stuff that is out of print and, yes, new stuff as well. The new albums did not need Oink's to get around, every BT tracker has them. Its the stacks, the rare stuff that made Oink's special.
  • clops, on 10/24/2007, -11/+72***** The Police
    • themoose, on 10/24/2007, -2/+11***** Corruption
    • jdoe562, on 10/24/2007, -1/+15...comin' straight from tha undaground! A young ***** got it bad because I'm brown!
    • blocguy, on 10/24/2007, -11/+6*Listens to Rage Against The Machine*
    • SilverRocket, on 10/23/2007, -8/+3***** Piracy
    • kogeki, on 10/23/2007, -0/+4The police just enforce what laws are in place. I'm sure cops don't want to be wasting their time on this stuff. There are more important things for them to take care of. The people who are to blame are the record company whores and the governments.
  • snotrokit, on 10/24/2007, -7/+24wow, UK is not the place for torrent servers. I fear that the US is next. Once the politicians see how much money they can get from the MAFIAA, it won' t be long.
    Grab yer shovels, time to go under.
    • darundal, on 10/23/2007, -0/+20The server wasn't in the UK, it was in the Netherlands.
  • lindmar, on 10/23/2007, -1/+15Is something going on with the domain now? Its loading the Apache change...

    As if they are trying to change the DNS? Or am I way off.
    • saxonthebeach, on 10/23/2007, -1/+3Same here, what's going on?
    • NJPENSO, on 10/23/2007, -0/+6I get "The website www.oink.cd is currently offline." now. :|
    • popstick, on 10/23/2007, -0/+4For a moment, it was redirecting to google.
    • Jaime0000, on 10/23/2007, -1/+4I currently get:

      The website www.oink.cd you are trying to visit is unreachable.
      For reasons please visit news channels on google or related.
      • rlnd, on 10/23/2007, -0/+2


        This site has been closed as a result of a criminal investigation by IFPI, BPI,
        Cleveland Police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch Police (FIOD ECD) into
        suspected illegal music distribution.


        A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's
        users
        • Jaime0000, on 10/23/2007, -1/+8LOL the ifpi logo is a huge 592x619px jpg sized down via html.
          These guys must be very smart...
    • jakethecake, on 10/24/2007, -1/+13I currently get:

      "This site has been closed as a result of a criminal investigation by IFPI, BPI,
      Cleveland Police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch Police (FIOD ECD) into
      suspected illegal music distribution.


      A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's
      users"

      IFPI logo, BPI logo.
      • bobdigi, on 10/23/2007, -1/+2Goddammit.
      • collective, on 10/23/2007, -1/+9A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's
        users
        *gulp*
      • MalDON, on 10/23/2007, -0/+3*movies to Sweden*
  • floatingpoints, on 10/24/2007, -33/+6Pussies.

    Funny how no one ever fights back, huh?
    • lindmar, on 10/23/2007, -29/+6So true.

      Tough guys with the invites, elitist pricks... now they have to go to jail.
      • JaronDiggGuy, on 10/23/2007, -1/+4You're just whining cause you could get in. :)
    • Anteros, on 10/24/2007, -2/+29erm... the police raided his house, what was he supposed to do?
      • lindmar, on 10/23/2007, -21/+1I'm just saying from day one this site was f-ed.
        Sure the high quality rules made it great, but the elitist attitude made it suck at the same time.
        • ryanmm, on 10/23/2007, -4/+14sounds to me like someone is bitter they couldn't join the party
      • fizbuzzle, on 10/23/2007, -2/+12Resist arrest?

        I can see an immediate violation of constitutional rights here.

        Your house and everything gets raided for hosting ***** tracker files, not actual content?

        That's not right, and it's up to individuals to show force when this type of unnecessary aggression is started.
        • lifeinanalog, on 10/23/2007, -1/+5"Your house and everything gets raided for hosting ***** tracker files, not actual content?"

          In the eyes of the people who own the intellectual rights to the content, the tracker files are a way for people to get a hold of the content. Therefore, the people handing out the trackers are just as liable as the person actually sharing the files. I don't agree with it, but I can see why they pinpoint such places. The problem