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- inactive, on 07/21/2008, -0/+67Woah, a technology article on Digg.
- glue, on 07/20/2008, -1/+59Is OLED dead already?
- netneutrality, on 07/21/2008, -2/+23I think the main advantage they're promoting is improved battery life.
- piratearggghhh, on 07/21/2008, -13/+34CRT, DLP, LCD, OLED, Plasma, SED, LED DLP ... 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p .... HDMI, Composite, Compontent, S-video, DVI ... telescopic pixels....120Hz, 4ms response time...bla bla bla etc. No wonder the switch to HD has been so slow: the average person is confused!
- sfcaptainrob, on 07/21/2008, -0/+20And front page? Wonders never cease.
- merwin, on 07/21/2008, -3/+23Is that a TV with frickin laser beams attached to their frickin heads?
- crazyjake, on 07/21/2008, -2/+18I am still waiting for my laser tv...
- simplistics06, on 07/21/2008, -6/+20High definition trash is still trash
- YoctoYotta, on 07/21/2008, -1/+15Polymer OLED (PLED) advances increase the lifetime for blue OLEDs to over 60,000 hours and green is something crazy near two hundred thousand hours. Not sure how the picture quality of the lower lifespan ones compare, but noteworthy nonetheless.
- mustang460, on 07/21/2008, -2/+15You know the human eye doesn't see in fps right?...
- brianpeiris, on 07/21/2008, -4/+15Yes, OLED displays only have a lifetime of around 14,000 hours.
- morninglorii, on 07/21/2008, -1/+12Zoom... enhance.
- caseycoold, on 07/21/2008, -2/+12And... you're full of *****.
You're the type of person who screams "laaaaaaag" - happytedium, on 07/21/2008, -5/+15I'm most excited about the response time. I hate LCD's terrible response time as I play a lot of fast-paced FPS games, and compared to my CRT, my LCD is just horrible. The difference between playing at 160hz 160 fps compared to 60hz LCD (and having to run in native res) is depressing. So I have a giant 22" CRT alongside my 22" LCD on my desk.
- LetsGoHokies, on 07/21/2008, -0/+8I don't know why you are being dugg down. I am sure the average consumer doesn't know the difference between LCD/DLP/OLED. I think diggers (who are on top of technology obviously) think just because they know about the newest technologies that the average middle american consumer does as well. Hell, they are still offering converter boxes for the digital switch to a large portion of America for god's sake.
- Jektal, on 07/21/2008, -0/+8Tables? All this time, I only knew of the one!
- philodygmn, on 07/20/2008, -0/+7Lame compared to interferometric nano plates which are _amplified_ by other light sources. First called Iridigm, bought by Qualcomm, now called Mirasol:
http://www.qualcomm.com/technology/imod/index.html - KMartSheriff, on 07/21/2008, -0/+7You can't be serious. I mean how elitist can you be? Prefering 160hz vs 60hz? Honestly? How about you just suck at fps's and should stop using "hz" as an excuse.
- carbonetc, on 07/21/2008, -1/+8Pretty sure OLEDs have this one beat right out of the gate.
- thePTS, on 07/21/2008, -2/+9Agreed. Response time needs to be fixed asap, the current technology is *****. I can't believe all the people who exchanged their CRTs for an inferior product.
The best test is to take a notepad window and slowly slide it back and forth across the screen. How much movement does it take until the characters in the window title are unrecognizable?
With the current LCD "top performers", ridicoulusly little.
Although LCD prices are plummeting, I won't be buying this year either. - goosnargh, on 07/21/2008, -2/+8the contrast ratio sounds pretty weak :/
- kamisama, on 07/21/2008, -1/+7Yes, it's called economic crisis. Selling products with less margin of profit is still better than not selling at all.
- V3NOM, on 07/21/2008, -0/+5My LCD has a 2ms response time. It works fine.
- xNIBx, on 07/21/2008, -2/+6http://prad.de/en/monitore/review/2008/review-lg-l ...
Here you are, 0ms input delay and 2ms refresh delay. If you think you can tell the difference between this and a crt, you are just lying to yourself. - LordRedSnake, on 07/21/2008, -2/+5Put it side to side with a decent CRT and you will assuredly notice a difference. Even the best consumer LCD's don't display colors accurately. The 2ms response time is likely a GTG time and can be misleading because the criteria are abitrary and vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Furthermore, compared to the instantaneous response of a CRT, 2ms will still produce some noticeable ghosting.
Then you have the 10,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio, key word being dynamic. The true contrast ratio is probably nothing close, likely around 2000:1. Dynamic contrast ratios rely on the LCD to change overall backlight intensity which can result in a noticeable brightening/dimming of the whole screen in many cases. This can be pretty distracting when watching movies or playing games where the lighting conditions can change rapidly.
I was in the market for an HDTV recently and the quality of even the highest end LCD TV's is just appalling. We've moved to spending thousands of dollars for the least bad TV, since every single one shares the same criticisms to some extent. Colors, especially skin tones just did not look realistic. I now have a 46" LCD TV which while glorious in its size and definition just pales in comparison to the 5 year old CRT it just replaced. I'm really missing the smoothness of the picture during high action scenes and especially missing the rich colors. - KMartSheriff, on 07/21/2008, -1/+4Exactly. Sounds to me like he just sucks at games and is using "60hz" as an excuse for his low kill count.
- masamunecyrus, on 07/21/2008, -0/+3With contrast ratios potentially into the millions and being less than a millimeter thick, I'd say no, assuming further research can prove the expected results of reducing cost and increasing stability.
- f4113nh3r0, on 07/21/2008, -1/+4im sure there will be more advantages than just battery life, its barely out of experimental stages, its just a newly applied function for that display
- caseycoold, on 07/21/2008, -2/+5Your eyes must love you.
Doesn't that mess with you? I'll never go back to CRTs. - bentrinh, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3That's great and all, but what about the red?
- TheCoreh, on 07/21/2008, -0/+3My laptop is on my desk.
- TheKeithD, on 07/21/2008, -1/+4Well, the average person need not fear, because their friendly and COMPLETELY honest Best Buy sales associates will be glad to help them choose the best (and most expensive) HDTV setup available!
The rest of us will just have to brave it out on our own... - happytedium, on 07/21/2008, -2/+4Yeah I tried finding a GDM-FW900 too. It's like the holy grail of desktop monitors for us enthusiasts :p For now I'm using a Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070SB next to my Samsung 2ms 226bw. I mean, it's great for reading text (browsing etc.) and watching movies/tv shows, and yeah RTS and RPG's aren't too bad, but even at 2ms it just sucks for FPS gaming :(
It's pretty annoying that CRT's just aren't even manufactured any more when they still have such a big advantage over LCD's in most ways. - inactive, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2 I've seen the 30 inch NEC LCD with LED backlight monitor at B&H Photo in Manhattan, if you're ever near 34th st go check it out, it's amazing, looks as good or better than any CRT, even for professional work. http://www.displayblog.com/2008/06/18/nec-multisyn ...
- KMartSheriff, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2800:1 is terrible. I can't even imagine what 20:1 must look like.
- inactive, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2umm, how exactly is a giant mems device going to be price competitive with a simple array of oleds?
- DaDiggydiggyDOC, on 07/21/2008, -2/+4I love tech in any flavor, but unless this can be mass produced at a price near that of LCD's, I have to put in the vaporware category. I hate to break it to them, but cost is what drives products, not how impressive they are. It's like 120Hz that's great and all, but I don't know about you, but last time I checked the human eye can't perceive things past 60Hz or FPS? Most of this tech is hype; LCD's will be around for some time like it or not.
- Jektal, on 07/21/2008, -1/+3Battery Life == Power Efficiency
For a plug-in TV or monitor this is good because it lowers energy usage (and therefor your electric bill) - oneoverzero, on 07/21/2008, -1/+3If the human eye's response time could be measured in FPS, it sure as hell would be much higher than 15.
- caseycoold, on 07/21/2008, -3/+5No,it's because everyone learned they burn the ***** out. Even if it's in a longer period than people realize, the idea bothers people.
- cnosal, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2Agreed, the article states that these telescoping pixels currently have a dynamic contrast of 10:1. Granted it's just a prototype, but I think LCD and OLED will still be around for quite a while.
- theaceoffire, on 07/21/2008, -2/+4I believe what AdmiralAcbar is saying, is that this may be a trap.
- marx2k, on 07/21/2008, -2/+4Maybe not your human eye, but I am a human-android hybrid and my eye DOES see in fps! So what about "people" like me??
- Balk2K, on 07/21/2008, -2/+4Agreed, CRTs are still better than LCDs in many ways. I have a 19" CRT on my main computer, its main use is video editing and I try to avoid doing that on any LCD.
- antdude, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2Where can you buy new CRTs from local retail stores (not online since I want to see them)?
- seraph582, on 07/21/2008, -3/+5why even care about a refresh rate issue that becomes irrelevant by virtue of simply using an LCD? ='D
Edit: plus - that is one *podunk* resolution. 1920x1200 ftw. - cnosal, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2@mustang + oneoverzero - I believe the comparison means that if someone removed every 15 frame from a movie you wouldn't notice. Can you tell the difference between 14fps and 15fps?
- cnosal, on 07/21/2008, -0/+2True, but it's still in the experimental stage. Give it time, and in the mean time we have LCD to hold us over until OLED goes mainstream.
- Helicobacter, on 07/21/2008, -1/+2OLED, SED, telescopic pixels...I wonder what will be the successor
- V3NOM, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1The human eye cannot see the difference between 60 FPS and 160. You would be hard-pressed to tell the difference between 50 and 60.
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