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- Ascendant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17They're just going for the deep pockets, now that Fox owns MySpace.
After all, they can only make so much money going after dead people and grandmas- now they're going after the REAL money! - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"Nobody really cares if a corporation gets sued."
I do. ***** them. I love youtube, and not for the copyrighted content. The only stuff I ever watch there is user-created. I don't want to see youtube die 'cause of these bastards. - SonnyW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11It makes perfect sense to me.
Also, I heard some street musicians play a tune that sounded familiar the other day. Needless to say I alerted the proper authorities. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It sounds like Mr. Morris has a keen sense for alienating and prosecuting his most dominant customer demographic, young people. Never before has a plan be devised that could so perfectly eliminate patronage in such mass.
- SonnyW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9But if there are no more illegal downloads, who will there be left to blame for declining movie and music sales?
- xM55, on 10/02/2009, -0/+7Doesn't the music industry have enough money? Leave YouTube alone! (MySpace... I don't really care about.)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10This doesn't make any sense. The infringement occus on an individuals page. If someone posted a page on geocities or another free website host embedding an mp3, geocities wouldn't be held accountable. It's practicly the exact same thing.
- EquinnoxX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6OMG WTF!
JUST LEAVE US ALONE ALREADY!!!
Have they nothing better to do?!?!! - SniperGX1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If they continue to label their customers as criminals they should be labeled terrorists and should be arrested and tortured just like any suspected terrorist the bush administration gets their hands on
- dw2005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Universal Suing Fox!?
What a great way to get rid of a compeditor.
The MPAA should sue the RIAA - after all the RIAA for stealing possible lawsuits from them. - fohat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This same story seems to show up every few weeks or so.
Youtube has a fairly strict take-down policy from what I have read, and I imagine myspace would have to as well. I don't see any lawsuits directed at users coming out of this supposed ever impending crackdown of doom. - gnarbuckets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"*****! The artists who make us money have found a way to circumvent... us! CRUSH THEM!"
- SoullessDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3And so it begins....
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"But the content is ultimately on myspace/youtube servers."
1) The same could be said of geocities, etc.
2) Frequently, the only part of the 'content' that's on myspaces servers is an 'embed' tag. - Yage2006, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3***** buying cd's period.
Go see your fav artists at concerts. - McGrude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What is rediculous about this is that I just purchased several songs from iTunes that were used in a fan video ( Maptacular by Insidi0us : http://halo.bungie.org/news.html?item=14803 ). If I'd never seen that video I would never have purchased those songs.
- mas4977, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They are going after these two companies because they are immensely successful and myspace and youtube are letting artists sell their own content.
DOWN WITH THE RIAA!
Why don't we all stop buying their products and stop blindly supporting them? - evi1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"these new businesses are copyright infringers and owe us tens of millions of dollars."
Why does the RIAA feel anyone who ven thinks about there music owes them tens of millions of dollars?
There a bunch of greedy bastards. - daborg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Amen to that. I guess Universal doesn't want free advertisement.
It's YouTube who should be charging Universal money. - Overdose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Its funny because a lot of the music people embed on their myspace and stuff like that, they usually own. But nevermind that, or the fact that most of the people on myspace are under 18 and have no money so you would actually be filing law suits against parents.
- TheOneGreatX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2care to share how youtube is making money off of it?
- rally25rs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We can only hope...
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wish my lawn was emo...
SO IT WOULD CUT ITSELF! - onidraky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Exactly, I wouldn't own 90% of the music I do now if it wasn't for somehow hearing it online for free first.
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There needs to be an organized "no CD purchasing" weekend. Get everyone at your college or highschool to agree to not purchase CD's over a certain weekend. Hell, go as far as assigning the last weekend of every month. Hit them where it hurts - you are after all in control of their profits.
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Going after individuals is a bad strategy. It inflames the blogosphere and draws a lot of bad publicity. It is better to go after the host companies. Nobody really cares if a corporation gets sued. Plus they can be shaken down for big money. Honestly, this sucks but who didn't see this coming a mile away?
- chess007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 I don't think this will kill myspace or youtube. When companies have a lot of $ the court battles tend to be: a) settled quickly b) dragged out over a long period of time
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well if they went after Myspace and Youtube they would collect big. All those damn kids posting videos of them singing and whatnot. Can't forget them Emo's too. I wouldn't mind Myspace getting burnt by the RIAA becuase I hate them. But youtube is kind of cool.
- Overdose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now why did you add hate against emos in there. It destroyed any maturity the statement had.
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1News Corp has enough capital to hire good lawyers that could set a precedent for these type of cases.
If Universal Music Group went after the smaller video sites then it wouldn't be a fair fight. - saxman13ga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Kharisma-
Correct.
But, geocities says that in the terms. It depends on if Myspace and Youtube put that in the terms. If so then its not youtubes or myspaces fault, otherwise they are accountable - vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually it makes sense. Myspace is owned by Newcorp and they have very very deep pockets whereas Geocities did (or does) not.
That and Myspace plans to be an iTunes competitor. - Overdose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1RIAA doesn't want undeground artist to get famous from the internet but going through major labels that ***** them over.
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They make more money off concert t-shirt sales anyways...
- Overdose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Which creates torrent weekend.
- richpav, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I see this as a good thing. You'll still be able to discover new music. It'll be from independant artists. The record industry, by making it perfectly clear that they're only interested in money and don't give a ***** about art, artists or fans, is making itself culturally irrelevant.
There's lots of great music out there being recorded by independent artists. They will fill the gap, artists and fans will be able to interact with each other like never before, and art and entertainment will become more participatory and democratic. - panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It has nothing to do with the "Safe Harbor" clause that grants a service provider immunity. MySpace and YouTube are providing tools that make it simple to distribute media within their services, thus opening themselves up to "contributory" culpability, just like Kazaa, Limewire, etc. I think UMG has a point.
MySpace will clean up their boards and continue their counterattack by promoting indie bands. - Soave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1From what I understand, Youtube can definitely be held accountable. I'm pretty sure that they say that as soon as you upload your content, they own all rights to your video.
- jj555298, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Forget the free publicity and potential viral marketing, lets just sue the bastards!
- ThisIsJames, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yay, finally someone with deep pockets gets to fight on our side.
- trovoltex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yep Myspace soon will be dead.
- gvibe06, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I disagree ... It is exactly the same thing.
Face it, the Music Industry is not happy unless they are making money. If they are not making money because someone puts an MP3 or VID on their MySpace page then they have to sue them - otherwise what kind of reputation would they have - GoldStandard151, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They're trying to protect our countries greatest export.....entertainment. However, they're most certainly going about it the wrong way. First by going after on-line guitar tablature, which represents such a minute portion of music sales I don't know why they bother, second by going after the very sites that I use to discover new bands and subsequently purchase music from. They had much, much more of a legitimate case back in the day when the RIAA went after Napster, which probably actually did lead to declining record sales. But these two cases are just a joke!
- ABBondo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0MySpace and Youtube are merely catering to the consumer. This trend is both welcoming and easily assessable. I understand the need to enforce copyrights and give credit to the artist. however, I believe that more times than not, the Music Industry is only hurting its sales. I for one, like to look for new music and test it out before i purchase it or go to a concert. Many times, I look through different on-line sites for potential musical interests that I might find. If i do find something I like, i am inclined to purchase their media and most likely tell my friends about it.
- malkir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If they were wise they would just force youtube to replace all illegal copyrighted content with Yanni, or else they will sue. In the end everyone would be quivering in fear every time they tried to listen to copyrighted content, you'd have to ask yourself, before clicking on any link....is Yanni waiting for me on the other end?
- dodger731, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is absolutely true! Look at the new OK.go video "Here It Goes Again" (the guys on the treadmill). I followed a link from a website to the video on YouTube, thought the video was great and immediately went to iTunes and bought the song. Now look, because of YouTube, the song is in the iTunes top 10 (well as of 15 minutes ago, but could be gone by now! LOL). They performed a live version of the video on the VH1 awards (or was that MTV? Who cares! They never played the song/video either!)
Without YouTube I would have NEVER heard about the song. Radio never played it, that is for sure. - Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1there isnt any ads on youtube
infact so far
youtubes a big fat money eating hole in the ground - blueZhift, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0While it is true that YouTube doesn't have ads at present, the argument can still be made that YouTube may eventually profit from the traffic that comes in due to largely copyrighted content. That's because YouTube's popularity is allowing them to sign deals with various content providers which do bring in real money. The money from these contracts would never materialize without the traffic that comes into the site. Indeed, this may have been the plan all along. If YouTube signs enough deals, they may not ever need to run ads on the site at all.
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