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- krazyjim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28Under the DMCA he's an accessory to copyright infringement, by making it available he's allowing people to remove DRM (illegal) and potentially redistribute to others by Microsoft's reasoning.
- barbobot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22barbobot's law:
"Any story on digg that mentions window/os x/linux/, will in fact give someone the idiotic impression that everyone has to use the same operating system as them." - m0laria, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21Lol, so now hosting a file that was created by someone else to backup and remove keys from your music files is somehow copyright infringement? I hope this post isn't copyright infringement. =\
- cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12***** it's a 3fer - "iTunes 7 DRM Already Cracked".
- cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12MySpace hack to download Any Song & FairUse4WM - Glad I came to digg today!
p.s. Dear MS, Even with the TDO it took me about 30 seconds to find the program. Now I know my music files will "Play For Sure" - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12"Under the DMCA he's an accessory to copyright infringement, by making it available he's allowing people to remove DRM (illegal) and potentially redistribute to others by Microsoft's reasoning."
Good thing that law is an American law.
Solution: Move site to Sweden. I'm sure the Pirate Bay guys would take them under their wing, along with the Hymn crew. - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11it's a good move because legal threats always work in internet land.........
- Alex.w, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@fatdog789
"Except that distribution of copyright material is also part of the WIPO treaties."
Taking DRM off a WMV/A is not 'distribution of copyright material' or 'copyright infringement' of any kind.
You need to stop buying into what they're feeding you. - ElectricKetchup, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6copyright is different from trademark
- Hindu_Wardrobe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yep. That was me. It was pretty cool. :)
- Gatesophile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7They did that to my friend's site too, sending her an email about copyright infringement about hosting FairUse4WM.
- Reno582, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Infrinding on copyright laws, will not solve anything, the best way to fight DRM and the RIAA is not to buy it at all.
Come on hit them where it really hurts, their sales - Reno582, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5what we need to do is to get a lot off people doing that, not buying ipods or zunes or itunes media, and music cds.
Show them that the Internetz is not gonna be pushed around - baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4that is exactly what i do, i dont buy music and video, and i do not illegally download music and video, i have a great library of paperback books that i pick up from used book stores or yard sales & flea markets, i have an AM/FM radio mostly for news & weather - sometimes i listen to music but not often and i dont go out of my way or spend any money on music or movies (music and movies is not that important to me to be worth my hard-earned money)
- GarethSaxby, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@baalzebub; You're just proving barbobots law by saying that (Look up ^) and you're not aiding your cause, should there indeed be one. There is no open source software that allows you to download music for a reason; open source it and you leave your arse wide open, anyone dolt would be able to freely take the music off after they're given a helping hand by someone more knowledgable than themselves. Some people actually like to buy their music and listen to it where and when they please, rather than use a radio. For them, it's either buy CDs or buy online, thus arises the closed source software problem.
The big issue that people always forget when it comes to DRM is the fact that people are trying to preserve their work; sure, they are still earning money by the bucket (Or should it be $1,000,000 boat) load, but DRM exists to preserve the money that they have a RIGHT to. They may be rich, but why would they not want the money that they are rightly entitled to by law?
I digress. The actual issue is being twisted though; the program lets you bypass DRM. The DRM placed upon the files prevents you from sharing it with others. By creating software to remove that DRM, you are therefore breaking the DMCA by facilitating piracy of copyright material. The Microsoft representitive may be going around it the wrong way, but as I see it, the software will allow people to break the law. Still, is this really wrong? Much in the way that kitchen knives or a car can be used to kill, the software is intended with the purpose of allowing the user to use copyright content that they have purchased (As I understand the valid key for the DRM is required to remove the protection on the music) on a product that doesn't support the WMA-DRM format. Then again, we all know the way that BitTorrent, XDCC and Peer to Peer apps have gone... I'm sure that they may have been intended for legal file transfer originally, but for the most part that really isn't the case.
Sorry to play devils advocate and sorry for draging on so much, but this really makes you think.
Oh yeah, Dugg. - Bobski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5OT: What is up with this blogospeak? Just what in hell is a "jump" or in this case a "break?" What jump? What break? WTF?
- insanenerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What? The bad thing is... my middle name was Richard... Jason Richard Woodcock...
I've heard every Jason Dick Woodcock joke under the sun - flameboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5This is just a standard auto-generated MS takedown notice. They are poorly made, innaccurate and can be safely ignored (i ignore them all the time). When you get a letter written by a real person then you might need to worry.
- alrahman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Dugg, this is just what we need. No more bullying from MS, the RIAA and MPAA for doing things which are completely legal.
- Skeuomorph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Especially since I rarely, if ever, see an actual jump (hyperlink?) to somewhere, just a continuation of the article in the same column immediately following that phrase.
- gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Actually, unlike other companies' C&D letters, Microsoft is stating some of the reasons why FairUse4WM should be taken down.
Unfortunately, Microsoft also happens to have a legal basis for its arguments. (IANAL, but I asked one.) - evolvedlight, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4
First Day: MS announces that Zune will not support DRM WMA, or DRM AAC
Next Day: DRM WMA hack released, DRM AAC hack released.
Hmm..... - jguy584, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Despite the kicking and screaming, they are going down.
- baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6who gives a flip, just quit using closed source software and quit buying DRMed music and video and use GNU/LInux and if you just gotta have music then buy a cheap AM/FM radio...
i do everything in my power to keep greedy corporate pigs out of my wallet where ever possible...
vote with your money and your feet...
free your mind and your @$$ will follow... - Arkonnan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3These guys have the right idea. If the last few years has taught us anything, it's that you don't need to fight your opponent with facts or the law when you can use pretty patriotic buzzwords like freedom, democracy, or fair use to throw them off their game.
If they wrap their little movement up in a cozy blanket of patriotic buzzwords, they can put Microsoft on the defensive. Afterall, it looks like Microsoft is attacking fair use now.
Now they just need to find a way to equate Microsoft to terrorism and they're on a roll. - HanSolo69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i think Microsoft should have started that letter off differantly. something more like:
"Dear Sir or Madam...oh hell, who are we kidding? Dear Sir..." - fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Except that distribution of copyright material is also part of the WIPO treaties.
So...even though the DMCA is US-only, there are analogs in most other countries that are party to the WIPO.
Moving to Switzerland will not save his ass, since MS is based in the US, and these treaties apply to the nation of the *content owner* not the content violator. If, on the other hand, MS was a Swiss company, than it would save him. - BillyEveryteen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't know who came up with the idea but it's lame...[more after the jump]
...and I wish it would just stop. - bedlam, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Jason Woodcock.... what a name
- JMac001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Worst part is that Microsoft worded and formatted this carefully to strongly resemble a DMCA notice, but it's not that at all. Plus, while I could see if it was claiming that compatibility rights were infringed - that's where you can insist on control over what other software can directly interface with yours - but there is no infringement of Microsoft copyright at all. It's really weird how they went about this. Like they are mostly trying to scare folks.
As I understand it, the FairUse4WM developer is claiming that this whole thing is just a ruse to get to his identity so they can really go directly after him.
While I use a lot of MS products, that company just gets you sick sometimes... - sixdays, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I have forwarded your message to the MAFIAA black-ops section. They are deploying a search and destroy team that will eradicate you, your family, your pets, all of your friends and a third of your neighbors. Israeli style. Prepare to taste some DMCA!
*sarcasm* - psilanthropist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2woops, you cant post this story.
you probably infringed the "we-control-you" part of the EUlA/copyright/some other legal document. - insanenerd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Apparently Microsoft thinks that sending me more than 4 emails a day regarding this will somehow convince me to take this down...
- Bananas21ca, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1How can you live with no music and movies? You would have to hum up your own songs...
- Gatesophile, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3But the music on the radio these days is so crappy, I couldn't stand listening to the radio only.
- rdoger6424, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2@gommie
OSX actually rivals linux in text-based applications (darwinports and fink are your friends) - d2nd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0ok, what wording would you use?
- cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I'm glad I can purchase and convert files. Now I can ***** share them.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2That was random.
- cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1All Digg is doing is protecting their copyright. They don't care taht the guy has the site but if they don't defend it EVERY time they lose the right to defend it.
- mickwalks, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Swearer idiot
- mickwalks, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1stealer
- DigeratiPrime, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5edit bury
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4good man, i cant see how its infringement to WMP10/11 when its violating the rights of the music creators, not that they themselves will respond but the RIAA i believe would be the ones to have to make a stand here.
Microsoft is just trying to save its own ass from the RIAA - gommle, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4Who says Linux doesn't have many programs? I'm guessing Linux has more programs than OSX and Wintendo together. (Well, not GUI programs tought)
- daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -28/+4They are just taking a page out of the digg play book.
http://www.digggames.com/ - mickwalks, on 10/12/2007, -40/+2Microsoft makes sucky OSs that dont work right and let you get viruses. Linux sucks cuz they dont have many programs so go Mac OSX
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