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░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ - Donut11, on 10/12/2007, -7/+135Who can possibly be surprised that "free" municipal wi-fi is going to come with strings attached? Just wait until it is discovered that they are storing everything you do. Maybe that government might just cooperate with law enforcement?
- EntangledPhysx, on 10/12/2007, -6/+90Reminds me of China.
- seanc6610, on 10/12/2007, -4/+68Basically, the city of Boston has the same rules as my catholic high school. Something seems slightly unconstitutional about that. It makes sense in the school, where they have the right to restrict access and preserve character, but a city shouldn't be able to do that.
And by "strings attached," how is selective restriction of websites simply an attached string? I'm surprised that municipal wi-fi has limits to where on the internets one can go. - rebotfc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+53Anyone know why it's being blocked?
- tazx, on 10/12/2007, -6/+54@fkr3 "How is it unconstitutional for a service to have a terms of use?? Every ISP, every website. every shop you walk into, every apartment you rent has terms and conditions that "encroach on your rights". Your right is to go somewhere else or use something else if you don't agree."
If it's provided as a public service by a government agency, it is governed by the US constitution. Blocking access to a website falls under "abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press". - dattaway, on 10/12/2007, -7/+55Government control at its finest.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38Am I the only one that thinks it is ironic that this information about Boing Boing being blocked is on Boing Boing?
- Easty, on 10/12/2007, -7/+42Censorship FTW!
- kevin_qnn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34@actorboy
"There's nothing unconstitutional about a city depriving you of the ability to access a private site through its network. Now, if it deprived you of your ability to access it through every service provider doing business in the city, you might -- might -- have an argument on your hands, depending on the content of course."
Please read the first amendment. "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press." You have this situation exactly backwards. If the private ISPs wanted to ban the site, that's their business and they have every right to do so. However this is the government banning a website, through its taxpayer funded network, which is entirely unconstitutional. - NX910a, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34For the most educated state in the United States, this seems incredibly stupid
- quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29It says, "Banned combination phrase found."
Looks like they said "Mooninite" one too many times. - jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Don't you people realize that this "service" is being funded by tax dollars which are paid by Americans and as Americans we are supposed to enjoy "freedoms" guaranteed by the constitution.
You can mock me for assuming that we are still free but in many ways we are, you can even say there is no legal precedence claiming we have the right for unrestricted access through a public service but in the name of equality and freedom we should. Some people cannot afford nor obtain high speed access because of either limited finances (think single parents here not your kid living in your basement) and many others simply live outside other providers access area's. I kid you not, these days I can get cable at my house at 8mbit a second but still to this day DSL stops at my neighbors house, I tried it just last year and I had less bandwidth than dial up provided.
So don't mock people complaining about this service blocking websites, whats next? porn sites? Gaming like WoW? I know that wouldn't go over well with many of my fellow geeks here. - mattym, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28"banned combination phrase"
I believe its an attempt to block porn ("boing" - I know, its ridiculous)
If they were intentionally banning boingboing, I don't think the returned
error would be "banned comb. phrase" - HawkeyeMatt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27This was something I've been worried about with free Wifi from the government. Never understood the support for it.
Unless I read the article wrong and this is just Internet for government workers. - graystar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24@fkr3
Is there a tick box for taxes as well? - Dotcommer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Ahh.. I see someone's still recouperating from 4/20...
- Psykus2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21"Please stop using Alanis Morissette's song Ironic to describe irony. None of the lyrics in her song are ironic."
So the song is ironic then..you're expecting the lyrics in a song called 'Ironic' to be ironic, but they're not!
Irony: "Poignantly contrary to what was expected or intended:" - InfamousAtheist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24@fkr,
"Is the government thwarting your constitutional rights when they put up a sign that says "no right turn"?"
Completely different ballparks dude... enforcing traffic safety has nothing to do with freedom of expression or the dissemination of information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies - graiz, on 10/12/2007, -11/+32This has nothing to do with BoingBoing or the Mayor of Boston. They are using a simple content filter to prevent people from surfing adult sites on a free wireless network. Some keyword triggered the filter most likely. The person running the wireless network probably used google to find a "boston seal" snd stuck it on the site.
The problem with social news sites is that people make quick assumptions without doing any fact checking - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24For those saying it's a free service and people should put up with it or use something else. Remember this was done with Bostionians tax dollars.
- stangy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21umm Harvard? MIT? Boston University? It's not that the city is uneductated...the elected officals are just a bunch of *****..
- omgomgomg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17i thought they were supposed to be liberals in Mass. WTF?!
- djbelieve, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16WTF?
- JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Hmm... are http://www.torrify.com/ and http://tor.eff.org/ blocked?
what about ssh? - screamthenrun, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16all they have to do is use a proxy... the wifi is probably blocking it by url not by source code... its that simple
- carguy84, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Isn't it ironic that none of those things are ironic, they just suck to have happen.
- ptsd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11if its being funded with tax payer money then its not really free wifi, and i would say that the city does not have the right to block any sites...and i would go so far as to say the service provider has no right to block sites as well. i hope someone sues them into the ground.
- Boing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I've never even been to Boston and I've been banned? Sweet, I guess.
- ISurfTooMuch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10No offense or anything, but has anyone here actually...oh, I don't know...contacted the city and asked about this? Has anyone at Boing Boing tried to get an explanation? If so, why isn't it on their site?
I'm not defending blocking Boing Boing, but I'd be curious to know what the city's response is here before everyone jumps to conclusions about what's happened. - TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The Library is different because it is a service designed for use within a public building. This wifi network is meant for people to use in their own homes.
- caoimhinn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"That's not ironic--it's just coincidental!"
~Bender - TheTaoOfBill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9A term of service rule for a government service could be considered a law.
Or at the very least it could be argued that way in court. - rstarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7We have free wifi in Boston...?
WTF?! Where?!
Probably Beacon Hill...
Anyone know if this is in Fenway? - Tycho7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Any city that unanimously hates the New York Yankees is pretty educated in my opinion.
- b0wl0fud0n, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Please stop using Alanis Morissette's song Ironic to describe irony. None of the lyrics in her song are ironic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironic_(song)
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony - Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Its not free when the money to pay for it is coming out of your pocket (in taxes.).
- zebstah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6CodyFrisch: please read Gitlow v. New York.
You are going to need to do more than just point to what states did at one point do in order to overturn 82 year old precedent. The fact that Conn had a state church far from "proves" what was intended. Constitutional law is a complex thing, and the common understanding of the states at the time of ratification is but one factor.
But I'm sure you were well aware of this case, right?
Oh, and I dugg you up...there's no need for people to be burying you - I'm all for states rights too.....but the law does not support your contention. - okcomputer1982, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I agree with this.
Furthermore, I think the city of boston should restrict the cars colors to blue and black on municipal roads.
Yellow is so garish.
Besides, no one is MAKING you drive. Use your feet you lazy bastard. - thefirstenemy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I was aware of Boing Boing, but had perviously never really visited the site, but in the comments people have been complaining that it sucks because all the talk about is goatse. I figured, they were just using hyperbole.
Anyway, after having the site actually linked, I decided to go there. First article, goatse.cx domain name is for sale... - Coldstreak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Grasping at straws. The automatic filter made a mistake, they weren't purposely trying to ban that particular site. Are we going to have an article everytime their content filter makes a mistake?
The title of the article is also misleading...although a total *****, its not the mayors fault this time - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"We're here to take your pornography and sodomize our vast imaginations."
-- Ignignokt - gumby013, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Next they will try and throw Boing Boing into Boston Harbor...
- pingveno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Does someone have the full text of the terms of use? It would be interesting to know about.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Constitutional rights only extend until they infringe upon someone else's rights (or the religious right these days), and frankly unless you are masquerading as a geek on digg for some report on the community then seeing you naked would infringe upon basic human rights much less civil rights.
- cfpresley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If anyone actually cared about boingboing, then they would have already read about it on the site...
unless they were using free boston wifi. - REBELinBLUE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Of course not, it is far less hassle to just sit around and bitch rather than actually do something.
- radioactivesmrf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4that was a useless article. Does anyone know why it is banned? Are there other sites that are banned as well? More information would be useful in this case.
- brettmjohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3boing boing itself wasn't banned. The page was blocked because the content filter identified a "Banned combination phrase". Going to boing boing, we see the front page article is about the sale of the "notorious goatse.cx" domain - almost certainly the culprit.
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