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- highdef, on 10/12/2007, -6/+42He also said whoever bought YouTube is a moron and they would eventually be “sued into oblivion” because of copyright violations. I don't see that happening.
I however, like HDTV a lot more than Internet Video. take a look at my profile name... - wisewaif, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34Um, hate to break it to you Mark, but people are already getting HD Content via Bittorrent trackers, and legit through services like Xbox Live.
Apple is sure to come on board in 2007 with their triple whammy of vPod, iTV, and selling HD content over the iTunes store.
YouTube is crap, and it may not stick around, but it proves that people like to watch video on their (usually) HD resolution monitors. Broadcast has its place, and will probably have the highest penetration of HD content, but I am happier watching HD Lost on my computer than watching 4:3 standard def Lost on my standard def TV. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Cuban is hilarious.
- HardwareLust, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Wait a second. This guys own HDNet and HDNet Movies. He's nothing more than a ***** shill for his own worthless network. Of course he's going to say that internet video isn't going to last. His job is to make you buy into his HDNet crap.
His blog, and this post, are basically nothing more than spam. I'm sure he appreciates the free publicity. - bdickason, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I think that Google is finding the lawsuits to be a tough factor in their business strategy, especially given the reasonably slim number of deals with major networks thus far. There's also a huge amount of content 'snobbing,' where companies like the NBA try to get their videos pulled due to negative publicity.
- bunni, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16Mark Cuban is a blowhard who got very, very, lucky with Broadcast.com As far as I know none of his ventures went on to success with or without him at the helm.
- Tu13erhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Solution: YoutubeHD
- ajb2015, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Okay, I guess I should stop using Youtube and go back to wasting 20 minutes of my life to watch an "hour long" show. I also suppose I should drop a few hundred dollars so I can take advantage of ALL the HD content that is available. I'll stick to youtube, and if I want higher quality, I'll use bit torrent and Divx/Xvid.
- TripinVA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7It'$ an intere$ting que$tion that doe$n't really have a $imple an$wer to it, but I $uppo$e it may have to do with the expen$e involved.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Silly Mark Cuban! Maybe he should stick to owning the Dallas Mavericks.
- dgh1973, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This guy is the chairman of HDNet...
I call bias. Of course he thinks Internet video will die, he wants it to. - TokenUser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7:) Someone could film it and put it up on YouTube
- etnu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+61080p playback requires ~9Mbps. 2,073,600 pixels per frame @ 32bpp @ 27 fps. Even with no compression, and sending FULL frames every time, you'd only need ~1.79 Gbps. Of course, anyone who knows anything about video codecs knows that you don't actually send full frames.
Extremely high quality video (60+ FPS) encoded in MPEG-4 doesn't even require 1Gbps. Actual specs here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264
In practice, 1080p content can easily be streamed out at 6-8Mbps (6 mega BITS per second, mind you...capitalization is important when talking bandwidth vs. file sizes). According to the numbers I've seen, ~55% of all U.S. households have cable connections at least that fast available now. Of course, that's faux bandwidth since the cable companies don't truly have 6Mbps for every user, but they're getting there a lot sooner than you think.
Here's a big secret that anyone shilling HDTV doesn't want ordinary people to figure out: The plan is already to deliver everything over packet switched networks already. They'll be pumping enough bandwidth into your house to make streaming HD video from the net more than feasible before too long. It's the same dirty secret the phone companies don't want ordinary people to realize. The only reason they're pushing the "pay out the ass for HDTV programming" model is because they get a huge portion of the revenues. When you buy content online, they get nothing beyond your monthly access fees.
Anyone who doesn't believe that the Internet will fully replace ordinary television (excluding broadcast in the short term) in the near future (say, 10-20 years) is either completely ignorant of the technology, or trying to sell you something. - bdickason, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I think that Xbox Live and the PS3, as you mention, will be a strong disruptor in the HD space, especially given the amount of exposure Xbox Live has already broken through. What started as a simple way to grab a cheat code has expanded into a full featured online store that could theoretically overtake iTunes depending on the proliferation of Xbox 360's.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"He also said whoever bought YouTube is a moron"
Yeah the contradiction is as painfully obvious as a stubbed toe, claiming that Google has the pulse on online video content when just mere months ago he was criticizing them for even attempting to acquire youtube.
I genuinely don't understand why any still listens to Cuban anyways. - Frankie4Fingers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6He owns HDNet which is a HDTV service. He has only commented about HDTV and broadband services because he is involved with both and wants to sell his services.
- demonicume, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6when i dropped close to 10 grand to HD my house, i didnt do it so that i could watch the occassional movie that took 4 - 24 hours to download via BT or Xboxlive. i'm sorry, but i want all my channels HD, every second of the day.
- mastercheif, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Have fun with that iTV and your HD content. The iTV's max output resolution is 640x480.
Where did you make up that fact?
The iTV dosent even have a SDTV output. It has a HDMI output and a Componet output. Why would they have those connections if the entire thing was going to be VGA? The TV shows downloaded on iTunes will only be VGA untill Apple changes their mind, but pictures and other things will be in HD. - jav1231, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Golden Age of TV? Gimme a break. If the Internet has taught us anything it's that content matters. HDTV may be incredibly detailed blah blah but what content is going to take advantage of it? What granular detail do we need to exploit it?
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Mark Cuban did a search engine? Interesting....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban
He basically fleeced Yahoo when, during Bubble 1.0, he sold them Broadcast.com. - DaysInTheDark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Isn't HD cable compressed like crazy anyway?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4he's not totally right, but has a point.
hdtv compared to standard tv is night and day. but hdtv and youtube is just no contest. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Youtube quality is just about bearable for the 30 second funny clips. Anything longer than that and I am not interested in squinting and turning my head sideways to try and work out if its a horse or a man
- ucbmckee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3YouTube is for 3 minute videos of cats and dogs falling asleep. It is not for watching movies or even full length sitcoms/shows. Completely different sorts of programming. Can you seriously see plopping yourself down on the couch and watching 3 hours of YouTube every night, as people do with network tv (hdtv or otherwise)? Not unless you're a complete freak, no. They are incomparable.
- DigitAl56K, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3etnu is correct, 1080p can be downloaded at about 6-8Mbps. In fact, you can do it today on Stage6!
http://stage6.divx.com
Publishing and hosting is free. - chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What he says is true, though. I always check my HD channels for something to watch first. I don't know why ALL channels are not in HD.
- ANorton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Once we all have FTTH this wont be an issue because HD will be easy to send down the fat pipe that is the internet instead of a separate IP based TV service from the telco/calbe giants. So true HD IP TV is the future and Mark Cuban still being an idiot (a rich idiot but...) is also the future.
- eNthem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is a shameless self promotion from the guy who owns HDNet... plus this same guy "predicted" that MP3 music will fail, a few years back, take a look:
"SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Streaming media wars will characterize the turn of the century, and MP3 audio formats will be an early casualty, according to Mark Cuban, president and chairman of Broadcast.com, in Dallas.
MP3 will not fall victim to the Recording Industry Association of America's attempts at censorship, but will fail because it will not scale as much as streaming media systems from RealNetworks or Microsoft, Cuban said in a keynote address at the MultimediaCom conference here in San Jose, Calif., Wednesday.
Although MP3 is an open format that does not carry the economic incentive of a proprietary streaming media system, it will not be doomed by its openness or lack of an owner, Cuban said. Rather, its lack of a compression advantage over RealMedia or Microsoft ASF files, plus the fact that it cannot be extended by new developers as software like the Linux operating system can, means developers will not find it attractive..."
Hmm, Ok...
My 2 cents: Internet video will not only live on and thrive, in a few years we are going to see internet video in HD and you can quote me on that. - Linh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3youtube only proves people are willing to watch a shatacular resolution of a show. of course, it is currently free for the most part, so that might have something to do with it.
- chicbicyclist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3He owns an HD something preumably selling services and products related to HD stuff.
- saegiru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The HD feed I get from Showtime is amazing. All I can say is Dexter.
- Tu13erhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@baxtermaddux
Youtube != some other video site - geekitechture, on 10/12/2007, -0/+246,000 sentences later:
"Which brings me to HDTV."
Yeah, thank God, I thought I was going to fall into a coma before that happened.
Too bad Mark Cuban wrote it; he's long-winded, illiterate, and misspelling-prone. He's sort of proof of concept of what happens when everyone starts worshipping your money-making abilities...
"Well maybe he'll say something important today..."
How will anybody know it, though, without a free-association-to-English translator? - jpkones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
Jeez, this makes me feel bad about myself - This guy is a *billionaire* - on the Forbes list of world's richest men, and he can't even use punctuation properly.
What the hell is wrong with me? I'm on my fat ass reading digg and this mf is RICH. - mr1337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The bottom line, Mark Cuban says a lot of stupid stuff. Why is this news?
- aegis9975, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Full length movie in 1080p is around 10GBs in mpeg4 AVC or VC-1 (720p is closer to 7GB), so I doubt many people will be downloading HD videos regularly.
Most people that watch via their monitor are pretty content with DVD quality rips. Personally, HD & downloadable media content can easily coexist in different segments of the market. - baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4he should turn these hilarious musings into a Stand Up act and take it on the road
- Ovitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would much rather watch "Art Mann Presents..." on HDNET than a video of my friends getting married on YouTube.
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dude, my mother just got HDTV, and even she sees it. If you don't see much of a difference, then either they weren't showing good HD content, or you aren't looking right.
- bshock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I would argue much the opposite -- that Internet video makes HDTV pointless, or at the very least, marginalizes it to enthusiasts.
Did YouTube succeed by offering high-quality video? Certainly not -- it offered a quick, easy, convenient site for posting and viewing videos. In almost all cases, those videos were very poor quality. Most of us didn't care. If you're looking at a video joke or a funny commercial or a clip from the evening news, do you really have to see it in high definition?
These days, I'm insulted by the poor quality of Hollywood's output, whether films or tv. If I'm going to waste my time, I'd much rather see what some silly schmuck tosses on the Internet for free, rather than what some soulless Hollywood accountant formulates as his studio's latest blockbuster. - illegalamigo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's like saying people will not download movies online because the versions in theaters have better quality.
- gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2bit-hdtv.com; The best of both worlds.
Anyway, I believe that HD internet video will be possible once the majority of people in the world have 20+mbit connections. Until then, it's not really possible. I can stream 1080p via my 30/5 FiOS line, but only barely.
Verizon already uses IPTV for their FiOS TV service. They dedicate bandwidth from verizon to your home for the TV programming, even in HD. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2shhhhhh. don't tell anybody.
I don't have the money or FCC licence to broadcast HDNet over-the-air. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They really like those plasma screens.
***** YOU Steve - yangj08, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2gee- then why did Google buy Youtube? Certainly not because they like copyright infringement lawsuits... Everyone at my school knows what Youtube is, and the teachers sometimes use it in class to show video clips they don't have handy. If this isn't mainstream demand then perhaps nothing short of the iPod phenomenon will satisfy your definition of "mainstream demand".
- sleepwalkers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It doesn't take balls to shill HD content and slam internet TV when you own HDNet.
- narduk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2markcuban diggs?
- inactive, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1He is not legit. I am his brother and he does not have a Digg account. This guy is too stupid to even be a mark pretending to be Mark. I would report him to digg but it is not a TOS violation to be an idiot.
- michaelg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If this argument was true, people would no longer like playing games like tetris, solitare, mario, etc. Just because it appears better, doesn't mean that it is necessarily more enjoyable.
- mrl14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He's just looking for press for his lame company.
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