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- Ades, on 09/02/2008, -4/+86***** YOU! ***** YOU VERY MUCH MPAA!
- say592, on 09/02/2008, -3/+58MPAA touches small children.
Too far? - peterlisanti, on 09/02/2008, -2/+38All this will do is create a market for new ISPs that do not comply to the MPAA's/RIAA's requests.
Who's running these companies, seriously? Even I can see this and I'm not terribly bright. - PacmanMafia, on 09/03/2008, -0/+30No, not at all. In fact, expand on that idea. For example I saw this on a shirt once.
For every movie pirated, the MPAA drowns 3 kittens. - PacmanMafia, on 09/03/2008, -2/+29MPAA has a small penis.
- jamesduh, on 09/03/2008, -1/+20***** THE MPAA!
- klitzbtc, on 09/03/2008, -0/+19As yes the three strike policy, because if it hasn't worked before, it might work this time.
- JKAL, on 09/03/2008, -1/+20Damn, this article just reminded me, I have to check torrentz.
thanks MPAA? brb - t2t2, on 09/02/2008, -2/+17"In October a technical roundtable will get underway in Italy which will promote collaboration between the music, movie and ISPs, i.e they will discuss the possible implementation of a “3 strikes” policy. Stay tuned for an update."
Oh sorry MPAA, i thought you were Motion Picture ASSociation of *AMERICA* - LordSkywalker, on 09/02/2008, -3/+16The MPAA needs to go ***** itself. Maybe even a hammer to the balls for pullin' ***** like the Love Guru and Balls of Fury. Those are the real crimes.
- PacmanMafia, on 09/03/2008, -0/+12and Disaster Movie...
- yetAnotherCroc, on 09/03/2008, -0/+9No thats the name of the site he's checking
- samard2002, on 09/03/2008, -4/+13And how will this alternative ISP reach your home? Microwave? Because it sure won't be the cable lines or DSL lines.
- gheide, on 09/03/2008, -1/+9So if grandpa and grandma's computer or wireless internet gets hijacked by a so-called "pirate", then gram's internet gets shut off??? Hmmm... Then the MPAA just might as well just shut down the internet -- oh wait, they're trying... AN IP IS NOT A PERSON, MPAA!!
- lolobabyy, on 09/03/2008, -1/+7There's no way this will be successful, if it even happens at all. The ISPs won't agree, they would lose too much business to those rebel ISPs that don't go along with it. In the end it all comes down to money.
- solidus636, on 09/03/2008, -2/+8Leave, you ***** troll.
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6Well in amsterdam there is so much fiber that its not difficult to get a point to point fiber link. There are also companies like xs4all.nl here that will tell the mpaa where they can ***** themselves. They also will comply with the EU court ruling saying that if its a civil case of piracy they are NOT required to give any information out about customers (they actively will refuse).
xs4all was started by the group that is featured at http://hippies.waag.org if you havent seen it I suggest that you look at the "hippies from hell" video and see a bit into the culture here.
This is why they are going in italy where currently the economy is bad so I can see a lot of ISPs leasing dedicated circuits and doing it themselves to get customers in these rough times (there other parts of the eurozone are doing better). Yes the incumbant owns the wire, but not the content, and currently it would not be exactly legal for the incumbant to mess with the content.
There is a difference between reselling the internet of someone else and just getting the circuits from the incumbant. Anywhere competition is allowed, the incumbant generally is prohibited from messing with the content (which would enable the incumbant to hose all their competitors calls or degrade quality to make it really unfair, so antitrust stuff comes up in that situation). It really doesnt matter if its data or voice, its all just bits.
There are reports in like canada where some ISPs were more or less reselling and using the switches and routers (not just the dslam) to provide inet to their customers and they had throttling issues, but if you have a real network it shouldnt be that big of a deal to connect directly to the dslam and avoid the "bad" isp entirely. - Zarokima, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6As momentarily satisfying as that might be for you before you're immediately arrested and taking to real, butt-pounding jail, it wouldn't effect a change in their policies.
- AndrewDB, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6So they've failed controlling it on their own and now they're applying to the ISPs to do their dirty work?
***** that. I hope all the ISPs in the world laugh in their face. - xL0Sx, on 09/03/2008, -2/+8isn't the MPAA an American organization? why does it have so much sway in Italy?
- twiztidsinz, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6they are stuff?
- yedrellow, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6My concern is not with the actual position of the MPAA against piracy, but rather their methods in preventing it. Pushing the DMCA, DRM, throttling of p2p (regardless of the legality of content), censorship of google results, sueing of the dead and innocent (and even when they're guilty, asking for disproportionately large amounts).
The MPAA is disliked for a good reason. - Idietired, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5Oh Massaks ... I can only imagine the reason for your high horse, since you obviously have no clue why nobody likes the MPAA.
Do you honestly think an organization like that will stop people from copying digital media? Even the mighty iTunes has fallen to the DRM crackers out there. There's nothing they can build to protect digital media that can't be "un-built."
The problem is their "legal" tactics, just like the RIAA, have cheapened our country's entire legal system, and for what? Nothing more than the occasional shake-down of grandparents and school kids to the tune of several million dollars, all of which pay for their ***** legal practices and fees and NONE of which goes to the people collecting the artistic royalties they hide behind.
We don't hate them because they fight for what's right, we hate them because they look like law men and stink like second-rate gangsters.
So, ***** the MPAA, and ***** you.
Yes, you, "Massaks." If you're really 30 years old, you should know how to do 10 minutes of homework. You're an embarrassment to Digg, and to all of Canada. - Rysac1, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5It can't be said enough......***** THE MPAA
- GliTCH82, on 09/03/2008, -1/+6In order to cut off pirates they have to monitor what everybody's doing. Closely. This not only opens up a ton of questions regarding privacy but who is going to pay for the infrastructure overhead that ISPs will now have to add due to new regulations? You guessed it: all the consumers.
- pcvo, on 09/03/2008, -1/+6They need to finally accept that this is the future.
- leoofborg, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5Joe Biden needs to be handed a feeding tube and sent off to the old folks home. Followed closely by McSame.
Actually, I wouldn't mind electing Obama and the VPILF. Now *that's* a dream ticket. Except for the fact that Obama was a shyster with FISA. - SniperZero, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5... and everyone else wants to cut the mpaa and riaa off the planet.
- maasox74, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5I think the point was that what they make is not worth paying anything for it, not that he can't afford to.
- Zarokima, on 09/03/2008, -1/+6"Because the world needs a powerful America to tell it what to do." -- some guy on WKTT
- btschul, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5In all fairness, I'm sure the MPAA is not going after people downloading Fellini movies
- btschul, on 09/03/2008, -1/+5Don't?
- pigfister, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4who are the mpaa/riaa, well they are a bunch of fecktards that should be boycotted just because they hide behind trade body names to protect them from bad press!
the riaa are the same companies that make up the bpi and the ifpi and every other trade group around the globe.
one ring to control them all.
RIAA:
# Sony BMG Music Entertainment
# Universal Music Group
# Warner Music Group
# EMI
MPAA:
# The Walt Disney Company
# Sony Pictures
# Paramount Pictures Viacom—(DreamWorks owners since February 2006)
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner) - gotjpeg, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4don't forget soul plane
- KaiserArny, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4@massaks Spoken like a true MPAA troll "you have no right to complain..." So I can't complain if there's a Dumb law that says I can't make copy MY DVD bought and paid for on a computer to be watched in MY OWNED HOME, on MY OWNED TIME. That's what the MPAA has been pushing here in Canada. But I can't complain 'cause the MPAA says so. Nice logic. How much are they paying you, ' cause you have not brought anything to the debate except telling us we have no right to complain?
- inactive, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4I totally saw the MPAA feeling up a little kid the other day!!! I heard they have pictures of it on their computers, that they email to each other!!! and marijuana in their drawer, loads of marijuana, that they sell to those poor little kids!! it's disgusting, won't somebody stop them?!?!???
- magus_melchior, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4Um... so what else is new?
Seriously, the MPAA and the other two big media cartels (RIAA, BSA) have been wanting this for years now. Weren't they behind the Pirate Bay server room bust brouhaha?
Yes, we've whined and yelled at them online. But all of that won't reach the ears and tables of this bullying session. We need politicians friendly to 'net freedom if the ISPs are ever going to be able to tell these bullies to get lost. - Murdats, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4yes, but who was using that IP at the time, and who was using that network at the time?
an IP is not a person, legally or otherwise. - Murdats, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4by the fact that you reply to his argument with an ad hominem instead of a real retort then I would say you and massaks are here purely on the behest of the MPAA and not out of actual interest.
and if that's the best argument you can come up with, then ***** you, you worthless corporate shill who has no life worthy of living that you sell it to a company in order to defend the removal or property rights and IP rights. - degol, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4http://i28.tinypic.com/2m7xd85.jpg
- twiztidsinz, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4I even linked the Wikipedia article... A douchebag AND lazy...
"Dead Man's Chest" (also known as Fifteen Men On A Dead Man's Chest or Derelict) is a sailor's work song or "sea shanty" from Robert Louis Stevenson's novel Treasure Island (1883), and a later expanded poem by Young E. Allison (1891). - Chakat, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3Do you purchase non-mpaa films, out of curiosity?
- Khast, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3Okay, then with a 3 strikes you're out policy... Anyone ever hear of false alarms? They happen as well. What of those people which the ISP thinks you are pirating, but you are just downloading a Linux ISO? (Microsoft would absolutely love this)
- twiztidsinz, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3Copyright holders...... or the MPAA?
I think you're confusing the two, more than you've confused "their" and "they're" - leoofborg, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3Because they're all 'la familia.'
- abajaj2280, on 09/03/2008, -1/+4Aargh!
MPAA is a nasty pirate hooker. - Murdats, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3its obvious you work with the MAFIAA, you treat everyone as a pirate, whether or not you have any evidence or even cause to.
- NikoKun, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3They cut off their leg duh... How else do pirates get peg legs?
- ThankTheCheese, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3the ***** is that?
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