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- MikeyisaFag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40Lower their prices.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24We don't use the C word around here.
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13*****. ***** *****! Starbucks has a partnership with Apple? That means locked-down DRM...in my opinion what would be better would be a free music "sampler" that connected with your Zune / Laptop. You could download songs, decide whether you like them, then download them later.
- ph3rny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@GawtMilk:
I would prefer to not be squirted while in a starbucks - korimickster, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15@GawtMilk
Hahahahah. You said Zune. - Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -3/+11Dugg for the title and summary. Proper spelling and grammar, informative and not misleading, with a mildly amusing summary that doesn't detract from the article.
Thank you. - aahpandasrun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Is this actually mp3 or some kind of DRM wma file?
- djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"had you RTFA you would have noticed the mention of Starbucks' current deal with Apple."
Had you RTFA you would have noticed that the choice of iPod is an assumption on the author's part.
Besides, how can you 'add' songs to an iPod that's already tied to a computer without signing into an iTMS account (or back to your PC or Mac at home)? You can't.
(Oh, and your link's dead too). - shortyzgotpop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Isn't this more likely to do with Zune than iPod? iPod doesn't have Wi-Fi and Microsoft was talking about this in a different story about a week ago.
- sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7+1 for your thorough evaluation which prompted me to digg the same article where I might not have.
- richwalkup, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6So just what makes a Starbucks coffee drinker a moron? I know the prices are a little over-inflated compared to say McDonald's or maybe even Dunkin Donuts, but come on. The only thing better than a Starbucks is a niche owner-run coffee house and many places don't have those. I have had amazing coffee from all around the world, but I still enjoy a relaxing cup of coffee from Starbucks. Most of them are also very nice places to work when you're away on business. I have seldom experienced bad coffee from Starbucks but I tend to only visit them in very high traffic areas, so the coffee is usually very fresh.
- Velveteen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5From a card-holding Barista Guild member:
Starbucks' beans are not only roasted super-dark (therefore roasting out most of the flavor elements that a great bean provides in the first place), they are also so huge that they can't quality control to the level of most realistically-scaled roasteries. If you empty out some bagged Starbucks coffee next to some good roasted coffee from a roastery like Stumptown (Portland) or Counter Culture (Durham, NC), you'll see a few things:
1. Much much much darker roast. Ask any reputable roaster and they'll tell you that french roasts *almost* always are used to mask a "par" coffee, rather than paying twice as much for a decently selected and blended bean.
2. Holes and mutant beans. In most quality control situations, beans of a significantly altered size, shape, or weight are filtered out the same way as "triage" (pebbles, pieces of animal bone, sticks, or other debris). Not the case with Starbucks - while the parasite-eaten bean is almost always present in a roasted coffee, it's also *usually* a rarity. Starbucks' coffee, simply due to their size, can't ensure the same level of quality control when it comes to messed-up beans. What's one bean, you say? In the case of drip coffee, it's probably about 1/20th your cup. Five crappy beans means 1/4 of your coffee has already been eaten on by bugs.
3. It's hard to get coffee from far away. One shop I worked at, between Seattle and Vancouver (BC), ordered coffee from Intelligensia in Chicago for a while. It was such a pain in the ass to get coffee in that we switched to a roaster closer to home. See, keeping coffee is tricky - roasted coffee is only fresh for about a week once it's ready to brew. So the sheer amount of warehousing that Starbucks has to do just to get the beans from roaster to cup is immense.
This all sounds nitpicky to the unseasoned coffee drinker, but really - find yourself a really, really kickass shop. Like, one that sends baristas to barista competitions. Then have 'em make you a cup of coffee. You'll understand the difference between a decent cup of coffee and a ***** great one. - ryanholiday, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7This is great. Cuban called this thing, what like a year ago?
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4In the epic new film "Idiocracy', Starbucks on the future is a place where people go to get handjobs.
On the sign in front, the most expensive item is
Full Body Latte ....$600. - alstewart73, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I didn't RTFA either but I hope to God it isn't Apple-based either. How about generic, accessible, plain old mp3's? Or is that just crazy talk?
Are they gonna DRM the coffee so it turns into expensive piss as soon as it hits my cup? Oh it already does that.....
Preparing for Diggdown - BobOrleans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Larry David: I'll have a vanilla... one of those vanilla ***** things. You know, whatever you want, some vanilla ***** latte cappa thing. Whatever you got.
- Serj730, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4actually it's double tall VANILLA non-fat extra-dry cappuccino
- Raznog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@richwalkup
i work at starbucks and just so you know the coffee should be fresh at ANY sbux you go to. we are required to rebrew the coffee every hour no matter what =D - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I actually like a lot of the music the sell on CD at Starbucks, though I never really hear it in-store. They sell stuff like Vince Guaraldi, John Lennon, and Billie Holiday, but the CDs are like $20 or $25. I bought a CD this Xmas for someone but I'd never buy music for myself at a Starbucks.
- FearFactory, on 10/12/2007, -0/+35.99/song
29.99/album
4.99/song with coffee
24.99/albom with coffee - gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It won't be WMA's DRM if it's iTunes... More like Apple's FairPlay. In any case, I'm staying far, far away.
- dknighton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's right. "Calacanis" is strictly verbotten!
- thomashallock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2One of my friends owns an iPod but no computer and he told me last year that he "just [goes] to starbucks and downloads music using their computers." I've never done this but I'm not sure what the news is here. Can someone explain?
- franksands, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6@GawtMilk:
Because the MS Zune DRM is sooo much better than Apple's. I mean, really? - thesmartpenguin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4had you RTFA you would have noticed the mention of Starbucks' current deal with Apple.
So it almost definitely will be for the iPod.
(the deal: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/oct/05starbucks.html) - mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2dugg for mentioning Stadium Arcadium.
- ocsurfreport, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@ Velveteen
When I first read “From a card-holding Barista Guild member” I thought to myself what stupid thing is this nerd going to say. But after reading your post I feel that I had to write and say thanks for the information, I know a bit about coffee and I always found it shocking that people consider Starbucks quality coffee and pay so much for basic crap. You rose up a good argument and brought to my attention some things that I might have overlooked, like the quality control due to mass bean roasting.
Anyway thanks for your comment.. - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@haggie
That's complete bollocks.
Starbucks is a relaxing place where you can get a bite to eat and a coffee, not an IQ test.
It's conducive to conversation, reading or getting the hell on with some work quietly - and you're not encouraged to get drunk, buy ***** food in polystyrene containers and throw it at the sidewalk outside or have fights - where I live that's practically moron-proofing.
Seriously, I don't know what it's like where you live, but where I live it's a haven away from twatbags. - trebor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2cheers, i was wondering if anyone else was going to catch that, but i wasn't going to be the one to say it (in reference to proper drink calling order)
- thesmartpenguin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ djSyndrome
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2006/oct/05starbucks.html
WOW! Take away the end parentheses and it works.
And I realize it was an assumption. But a darn reasonable one.
And all Apple would need to do is a simple firmware update to allow iPod users to upload songs to their iPod on a Starbucks kiosk, and then when they hook their iPod back up to their computer it automatically takes all songs uploaded via that kiosk and puts it in your iTunes library folder. Not all to complicated of a process. - bdbr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It'll either be DRMed or indie label music. The RIAA isn't warming up to MP3 that fast, and Starbucks already has a deal with the company that has a near-monopoly of the MP3 player market.
The company that makes iPod hardware announced they were adding wi-fi a year ago, so it could actually be some special wi-fi implementation on top of their T-Mobile stuff. Its just hard to imagine everyone plugging in their iPods to dock connectors, not to mention all the hassles of multiple iTunes accounts. - BaxterK, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6I hope to God it isn't Zune related. That thing's a turd.
- doocefan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think this is great. I like the music they play. Now, I can hear it at home. Although, the coffee is not as good there as it is in a real Starbucks.
- Homunculiheaded, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1aposter, I actually don't think the problem with starbucks in-store coffee has much to do with the roast, if you try their roasted beans and grind them at home I think it's a pretty decent cup of coffee. The problem is the coffee urns they use, or it has something to do with how long the keep brewed coffee around before brewing another batch. I always think there in store coffee tastes burnt but I don't think it is actually realted to the roast they use.
- AZNL473ncy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's not like I don't already get MP3's for free from Starbucks anyways. (Only at participating Starbucks with Wi-fi Hotspots)
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2There is only ONE thing I like about Starbucks:
They make it possible to get an espresso with soymilk, in so many locations.
I am even willing to venture out of the East Village sometimes, because of *****!
But the way they turn a huge profit selling non-organic coffee, that is just so full of pesticide residues that it is sickening-- it quite gross.
Seven years to harvest time, means coffee has tons of pesticides and farm chemicals in it.
But I do like the way I can go there and cross my arms, hip-hop style, while saying
"I want some Dope, Yo!" (Doppio=double espresso) - lordcanyon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i havent been to a starbucks but i though this was old news.
i thought they had this already where you could come in and order a custom made cd built right on the spot.
well i find this a bit pointless now adays. if i want music i'll download it for free and buy the cd when i can. i'm not gonna waste money on songs that i can get on the original cds and for free over the internet or from a friends cd.
why did the red hot chilli pepers newest cd just suck? they had maybe two decent songs stadium arcadium, and one other from the whole cd. i love the red hot chilli peppers and this just dumbfounds me. - djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not a big fan of the music they sell there, but they *do* sell the Laurie Berkner DVD/CD set, whom my daughters absolutely adore.
- franksands, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There were rumors about an "unemcumbered wifi", but I doubt MS will do this. Anyway, I would love to have any device that could download songs directly into it.
- krokodil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I was calling for this while ago. I am most interested not in music purchases, but in downloading podcasts. It would be cool while on the business trip to download updates to favorite podcasts without need to unpack and connect computer.
Original proposal: http://notbrainsurgery.livejournal.com/28414.html - catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If the selection is anything like the watered-down yuppie crap they sell on CDs, I'll pass.
- dededede, on 10/17/2007, -0/+0http://starbucks-gift-cards-gifts.blogspot.com/
- BurstIntoFlames, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0*Bends over* I would like a Grande DRM Latte Enema with extra Whip.
- verbatil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0yep that's cool but I guess it won't be cheap. Not a big news but made starbucks rise 2% today http://www.trendio.com/word.php?wordid=1381&language=en
- supermanred, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Its nice to see mp3s being distributed in a retail location finally. Kudos to Starbucks and Apple. Maybe you arent so evil after all.
- Guinnessgrrl, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Well, they won't serve decent quality coffee and sell anything like the whores that they are. Soon, they will just have fancy vending machines that will make the drinks and have them EVERYWHERE.
Damn, they are whores.
Music quality, anyone? ANYONE? - joosebuck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0LOL @ PEOPLE WHO STILL LISTEN TO R.H.C.P. POST 1995
- aposter, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Sell an actual good "green roast" coffee?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2What won't Starbucks do?
- JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4I'm still wouldn't be caught being in there for more than four minutes. That's where all the noobs and wanna-be geeks hang out.
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