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- verifex, on 11/27/2007, -8/+34Whack-a-mole gone international. We wouldn't have so many problems with piracy if someone (US) would simply get on the ball and write some copyright law for our century.
- Remmy, on 11/27/2007, -2/+23That will never happen. Government controls laws, big business controls government. If anything, copyright law will become more restrictive and the penalties will become more severe. And what will we do about it? Take it up the ass because we are a bunch of ***** sheep that blindly follow these idiotic bureaucrats that pass bills with their wallets instead of their conscience. Until we, the people stop listening to the media's brainwashing stories on who to vote for and who to reject, things will continue to degrade.
I better shut up before this post is labeled as possible terrorist literature. - HunkOfLove, on 11/27/2007, -2/+20I had an account there, 8,5% of Iceland’s total population had an account at torrent.is.
- Dustmuffins, on 11/27/2007, -4/+19They'll never get TPB
- SocialWarfare, on 11/27/2007, -0/+13They would probably run better if they were a little cooler
- Remmy, on 11/27/2007, -0/+10Bender: "It's so cold, my processor is running at peak proficiency!"
- jrowny, on 11/27/2007, -1/+9The funny thing is that Iceland has one of the most AMAZING music scenes in the world. I stumbled around Reykjavik on a Friday night and saw two awesome shows for free! One of them was at 12Tonar, a legendary record store. They serve you free espresso (good espress too!) when you walk in and you can sit down on a couch and open up any CD and listen to it. It's an awesome store. CDs cost like $30 on average in Iceland though... but then again, everything is expensive in Iceland. Fast food is about $15 a meal and a decent dinner out set me back about $60 a person.
- serpentor, on 11/27/2007, -7/+15FTA: Snæbjörn Steingrímsson, the executive the Icelandic equivalent of the MPAA (SMAIS), received death threats and other hatemail.
***** the SMAIS! ***** Snæbjörn Steingrímsson! - Kyrgizion, on 11/27/2007, -0/+7Holy *****, PLEASE don't ask for this! Do you remember the DMCA? *shudder*
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 11/27/2007, -4/+11He's just doing his job...
- Kyrgizion, on 11/27/2007, -7/+13http://www.meatspin.com
Do I win? - actorboy, on 11/27/2007, -4/+9It's just a matter of time, my friend.
- HunkOfLove, on 11/27/2007, -1/+5yup, 300.000 people.. usa/1000 = iceland.
- corvairkid, on 11/27/2007, -0/+4Iceland was first settled by Vikings who, I'd imagine, like pillaging and plundering. That's 8.5% who remember their roots.
- PA42, on 11/28/2007, -0/+3wow, don't really understand much do you? Actorboy is saying that matdev's argument could be used for any crime.
Matdev: " In other news, child porn is rampant, illegal gun sales happen all the time over the Internet and yet this [piracy] is what we waste our energy on. Great."
Actorboy [mocking matdev]: "In other news, --murder-- is rampant, --rapes --happen all the time --in the streets -- and yet --insert crime you disagree with here -- is what we waste our energy on. Great. - PA42, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2@jrowny
Why would it effect the live scene. Let's assume the ridiculous presumption that everyone in the country is pirating music. Now the only way for a artist to make money is perform. Therefore, there the music scene may not be effected. - cliffski, on 11/27/2007, -4/+6death threats so that people can steal music. some pirates really need to grow up and get a ***** job.
- jrowny, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2Iceland actually has a pretty mild climate. My mom lives in Rochester NY and it usually gets colder in upstate NY during the winter than it does in Iceland.
- PA42, on 11/28/2007, -0/+2You have a very incorrect view of the situation.
First, without strong copyright laws those artists would not have the opportunity to have a deal at all. What you have a problem with is what you view as unfair contracts between the artists and the record companies ... do you suggest taking away freedom of contract?
Second (and probably more importantly), some creators and artists use copyrights by themselves without the use of big business, they make their livelihood off off this, whether it be the independent movie lable, the independent fashion designer or a novelist. Strong copyright law is key to their protection.
Although the pirate community doesn't want to call it stealing, that's what it is. Perhaps not a legal definition, however taking a copyright away is allowing people to steal and profit (financial or otherwise) upon the blood, sweat and tears of people. Whatever lame ass excuse you make about some artists getting ripped off or the bitrate they sell their music or DRM will not trump the rights of artists to profit off of and control their creation (even if they choose to sel those rights). - PA42, on 11/27/2007, -6/+8Strong copyright laws don't just favor "big business," they favor artists and creators. The vast majority of the whining pirates here are either too lazy o make enough money to buy music or too cheap to spend the money they do have on it.
The power should be in the hands of the creators of the media. If a band signs away their copyrights to the RIAA, that is their prerogative. If they give it away freely, that is also their prerogative.
Stating that this has something to do with pirates rights or conscience is ass backwards. The reason the pirates lose is because they are taking something that isn't theirs. - Rotzooi, on 11/27/2007, -1/+3Björk is going to be super pissed.
- Sapperlite, on 11/27/2007, -2/+4Shhhhhh!
- PA42, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2I know what he meant, but it is obvious and predictable that a country with a vibrant music scene would protect the artists. It's not a coincidence that music and movies from the US are big sellers around the world (and almost all that is listened to in the States) and the US has strict copyright laws.
What would be interesting (or funny) would be if Iceland had a good music scene and no copyright laws. - Rotzooi, on 11/27/2007, -0/+2that's rougly the same as in most of europe. in Holland I paid $2.25 today, belgium 2.20
- cliffski, on 11/27/2007, -1/+3wouldnt ahve bought says who? people will claim not to have been willing to pay for anything after they already got it. that's *****.
- Rotzooi, on 11/27/2007, -0/+1wtf? READ!
- Tenoq, on 11/28/2007, -0/+1Zing.
- kamikaze87, on 11/27/2007, -1/+2I ALMOST CLICKED ON THAT THEN I REMEMBERED!
NOT AGAIN! - zephc, on 11/27/2007, -2/+3How big a coalition can it be? Iceland only has like 300,000 people
- Tenoq, on 11/28/2007, -0/+1So is the US Government. Doesn't mean they're doing the right thing.
- Rotzooi, on 11/27/2007, -1/+2A coalition, meaning: the MPAA and RIAA have pressured this little country.
- mOdQuArK, on 11/28/2007, -1/+2@PA42: Strong copyright laws don't just favor "big business," they favor artists and creators.
No they don't, although the big businesses have a vested interest in making the artists & creators think they do.
Artists & creators receive more of a payback by recognition, not by control. - inactive, on 11/27/2007, -4/+5this guy is trying to create an upheaval during these peaceful times, get him!!
- ajamison, on 11/27/2007, -2/+3Funny *interesting* is what I think he was going for there.
- Tenoq, on 11/28/2007, -0/+1Err, he's actually right. Don't digg him down. Wikipedia has the highest estimate, but it's still only 313,000 people in Iceland. :p
- matdevdug, on 11/27/2007, -4/+5Iceland has a really intense music scene, this isn't going to stop anybody.
In other news, child porn is rampant, illegal gun sales happen all the time over the Internet and yet this is what we waste our energy on. Great. - HunkOfLove, on 11/27/2007, -0/+1the more i know the less i know :)
- my10cent, on 11/27/2007, -0/+1Yeah good music if you enjoy cats howling at the moon, I been there it SUX thats why they all flee to Denmark when they turn 18.
- my10cent, on 11/27/2007, -0/+1Yeah it was her only hope to get people to listen to her by downloading her music for free.
- strwrsteve, on 11/27/2007, -1/+2They don't have to right now, TPB's Search sucks. youve gotta trick it.
- PA42, on 11/27/2007, -2/+2Why is that funny? It would seem to me that a country that produces good music would be more likely to want to protect the music's creators.
- inactive, on 09/11/2008, -1/+1who the hell would digg you up?!
- HunkOfLove, on 11/27/2007, -1/+1and 1 liter of gasoline is about $2.2.
- Emachine, on 11/27/2007, -2/+2Holy *****, this again...
Why don't they understand that they should be going after the ***** who pirate movies/music to sell. Because they are indeed causing lost profit for the artists/producers. But pirating for personal use is pretty much harmless because most of these pirates would not have paid in the first place, it actually benefits content creators because while you pirate you could stumble upon some new artist you really like but would have never bought it first. Almost like a "try before you buy" way to explore your interests. - hakz, on 11/28/2007, -1/+1never heard of torrent.is
- jrowny, on 11/27/2007, -0/+026,000
- PA42, on 11/27/2007, -3/+2They have more lost profits from 100,000 people getting it for free, then 1,000 people buying it from a pirate who sells music. There are plenty of people who otherwise would have bought it if they couldn't have gotten it for free.
On the "it actually benefits content creators" argument: This may be true in a small number of cases, but it is not the likely or common scenario. Further, what gives you (or a pirate) the right to say how a content creator distributes there content? If they agree with you, they can give away there content, but this is their decision, not yours.
Stop justifying yourself with week excuses why your illegal and immoral activity is ok (or even beneficial). Pirates take what does not belong to them.
Your argument is really really bad. - jrowny, on 11/27/2007, -1/+0Because I sat in a record store for a few hours filled with customers buying primarily Icelandic music despite the fact that it can be downloaded. Regardless, I don't think they do it for money anyway, they truly love their music. Just checkout www.12tonar.is and see for yourself.
- hakz, on 11/28/2007, -2/+1what point are you trying to make? matdevdug is saying that the police should be focusing their time and efforts on more important things. You're just being an idiot
- jrowny, on 11/27/2007, -1/+0I really don't think Icelandic artists were the majority of their sharing. More than likely it was American movies and music being traded on that site. What I meant by it being "funny" or interesting was that it certainly didn't seem to negatively impact their own scene.
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