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- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+55I bet their customer support sucks.
- JohnScott, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37Even if you pay people to digg stories, you cannot stop genuine diggers from burying the spam.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4050% of the stories posted on digg are crap anyways. you really have to scroll thought the crap until you eye something.
- Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25Can you mark it as 'lame' before you do, to help the rest of us?
Ta. - Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Have you been watching me? ;o
Seriously though. "Average salaries for unskilled labor in South Asia hover around $60/month (on the high end)." - how can it be average and on the high end? - cardyology, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21I bet they'd just spend all day altering their myspace profiles.
- rhesuspieces00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20I haven't been reading Digg that long...maybe 7 or 8 months, and even in that short span of time, the drop-off in quality of articles hitting the front page, not to mention the comments they inspire, has been staggering.
As Digg grows in popularity, and the user-base begins to overlap more with myspace and less with slashdot, we see more spamvertizements and youtube videos of people getting kicked in the nuts, and less of all the interesting articles that made Digg worthwhile in the first place.
Maybe this is just me, and not indicative of anything, but I suspect that within a couple months, I will stop reading Digg altogether. But if it gets bad enough, and hiring south-asians to digg-spam is a sure fire way for that, others will begin to leave too.
It was fun while it lasted. - Petarded, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13@Teaboy
It means that 60% of the time it will work 100%. - eolite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13no one uses myspace in india ....
we use orkut. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16@eastly: Ok, how about 95% is crap.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Totally the same for me
- badantheugly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9>>$60/month (on the high end). That means $2.7/day and 34 cents/hour
Wow, did anyone else check these figures? Apparently if you're paying unskilled labour in South Asia. They only have to work 8 hours per day. And they get two days off every week. ($0.34 x 8 = $2.72, $2.72 x 22 = $59.84)
Isn't it more likely, since they're being treated like slave labour anyway, that they'll work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week? $60 / (16 x 30) = 12.5c per hour. - thatgirlismine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Dugg for Robocop.
- tritium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@jriley: it is called a proxy server... and there are many located *outside* developing countries.
- fufubag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Next step: rocket science.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5We have some "QA" testers in India right now. They billed us for all of December and January, yet haven't done one damn thing to test our application. They claim they're testing, yet the server logs, and test database show nothing.
I bet they're gold farming. or digg farming. - jriley101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5but this kind of stuff already exists through sites like http://www.friendlyvote.com and many others. What different would this make when it comes to digging? Digg is already tracking down people who work in collective team. Tracking down 120 similar accounts will not be that hard for digg to nail them. How many times can they change their IP address in a developing countries?
- marzbar329, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5this is just a way to spam digg.
- 4x3l, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Maybe I'm a geek or something but the whole thing is coded in Perl in like 2 hours (using a proxy, and different digg logins) and does not require any human interaction after that... and oh yeah you don't have the feeling being a slave master (and it's free) :p
- bluenile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If paid the right price wont Americans do it? More than 90% of those spammy sites full of Adsense ad sites belong to -------- .
- Nogger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What does "Average salaries [...] (on the high end)" mean anyway? Average saleries or high end of the salaries bracket, pick one.
- brainovermind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3ComputerDudes
With all of your experiences with penises, who do you say have the largest? Just to check your statistics, what is your sampling N? - ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2but considering the demographic that is the majority of diggers, would $1000/month really be money wisely spent? I know I'll be dugg down for this, I know how this circlejerk ego thing works -- if it makes digg.com's front page it's like the WHOLE WORLD sees it! guess what boys and girls, that's just not the case. digg's userbase is predominantly people with more free time than disposable cash. sure, there are those of us with real jobs making real money, but the large majority of people who constitute the majority of the traffic here are high school and college students. the only real value of publicity via digg is the hopes of instilling familiarity with a brand, and milking that brand familiarity down the line, when the digger is an adult with a job that makes money to spend on gimmicks and gizmos. any company interested in that sort of longer-term revenue generator is going to have an ad budget waaay beyond $1k/month, and will be spending it much more wisely.
- daniel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"five dollah, sucki sucki!"
oh wait.
"one dollah, diggi diggi!" - theDevilsDue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2digg farming?
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@piratebroadcast: while I'm sure Digg's reach is lengthening and broadening, I can assure you that many of the very technically savvy software engineers and DBAs I work with are completely unaware of its existence, or only dimly recognize the name, if they're over 30. under 30, I've known a few similarly savvy people in the 25-30 bracket who, while they've probably heard of it, have less than a 50/50 likelihood of being readers, much less registered users, much less frequent visitors who participate often. in the 18-25 bracket, sure, you've got a lot better name recognition and participation, but typically more so among people who aren't working fulltime jobs -- typically students, with some margin of the unemployed. in the non-technical segment, regardless of age, if I mention "Digg" a typical response is, "What's that? Do I need a shovel?"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"If the content is lame or spammy, Ill just turn the window off and move on."
Sometimes I get the feeling that Making a buck in the sense that you are prolly portraying it via crappy blogs with adsense is just a simple way of trying to game on Digg. Digg could easily be used to promote an Idea or market with a more complex plot and bigger budget which would be harder to detect on your so called BS detector. an established compnay could easily expolit users to increase their social status via networks like digg. For Example imagine Warner Brothers paying a large amount of users to plant a story about the making of the up and coming movie 300 and it hitting the front page. That is free advertising to a company like Warner Bros and can cause the hype that accompanied internet darling 'Snakes on a Plane' - DIGGADEEP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1internet service is free in india?
- sciencepunk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This isn't a new idea. There are already "sweatshops" in Mexico where cheap labour is used to build up character profiles on MMORPGs like Knights of the Old Republic. The established characters are then sold to Americans / Europeans who want to "buy in" at the same experience level as their friends.
dugg for good writing. - nick34, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1that. was. awesome.
- DatDamWuf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I only dugg this to point out it is stoopid
- neuropsychguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ rhesuspieces00
That was my problem with Fark. It started out really well but then got too popular and I haven't been back in months. Some of it is still good but there were just too many stupid/extreme/bigoted comments for me to spend my time there. I still enjoy Digg a ton but things like the recent rash of the 9/11 spammer (easy to avoid but still annoying) and other things like that are a turn-off (that's not Digg's fault per se, spam and stupidity are an inevitable side effect of popularity). - GhostToon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh much is the cost of living in these countries? I would think this is horrible if its the same as many developed countries but I am betting its not so there may still be getting fair pay.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I believe the hope is that lazy media people turn to digg (or sites like it) for "buzz stories". Personally if I wanted to find out what has buzzy goodness I'd check the "most emailed" and "most viewed" list of items in my RSS feeds. Those are not immune to gaming but they do at least filter things like blogspam (the available population is only real news articles).
- Tredici, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Eastlygod, you're an idiot. Just because there's a 50% chance of a poor story does not mean that a good story will follow a bad one in perfect synchronization. The great thing about probability is that even if there's the slightest chance of something happening, it's not impossible for it to occur billions of times in a row. Now that's a lot of scrolling.
- eetraveller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ABadInAlbany - While I don't doubt your assessment of Digg's user demographics (however unscientific it was), I would argue that high school and college students are a pretty significant reservoir of disposable income for the right companies to tap.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0say hello to the apple hype machine
- bremstrong, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What Digg needs is a slight change to allow greater transparency on the diggs on stories and comments. That would allow the moderation system to be somewhat self-policing, although the problem is almost intractable.
A simple change that would show the + and - digg totals for each comment as well as the sum would be a start. - CanoeBuilder, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3real panther...
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2and one more thing - adblock
- lukaso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1dugg,
...now where's my 0.003 cents? - ccann702, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dugg for the "Robocop-ish" title!
- nick34, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Very interesting article.
People will ALWAYS be looking for a way to beat the system, online and off. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1*cough*Steorn*cough*
- ezedze, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3highly inaccurate. just furthering the stereotypes. broaden your mind... see the national portal of india: http://india.gov.in and pakistan: www.pakistan.gov.pk.
- bigstinky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This may be a bit off topic, or I'm just barking up a wrong tree, but has anyone noticed in the rankings, there are some folks with one submission, no comments contributed, very little Digging and yet have garnered 2000 plus profile views? Could these teams be pushing up those stats as well?
- jamesvaughn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1So digg is gonna be full of casino ads now?
- Mofo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Make me feel a hell of a lot better about my 14.55 an hour, even though the company charges 9 times that sum to our clients for my esteemed services.
- wallacesimon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1People using the internet for commercial gain? Promoting things through disingenuous means? Whatever, next! Wake up and smell the [insert brand of your choice] coffee. This has been going on for quite a while. Also, is it just me or does calling these people drones and statement like - Indian people are good at doing repetitive labour, make you feel a little uncomfortable? (Beats flipin' burgers.)
- ishmal, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Might be one of the sources of all of the pro-telecom astroturfing on every Net Neutrality article.
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