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- chrisr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I noticed this at work and reported it to our IT department who contacted our ISP (Redmoon, who owns MoonOverAddison). Here's what we learned.
Fair Eagle sells a hardware device that sits between the ISP and all customers. It attempts to insert the ad Javascript into all HTTP traffic. Redmoon has purchased this device, intending it for all home customers, however, it lacks any sort of configurability based on IP address so all customers, including business customers leasing T1s from them, are affected.
Redmoon installed this device knowing that the ads would alienate some customers, but not enough to make the device unprofitable.
Very shady. - chrisr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Redmoon has admitted that all traffic is going through this spam box. Who knows what this thing is doing besides inserting ads into HTTP traffic. It may well be collecting email addresses, personal information, passwords and any number of other things we'd rather keep private.
If it weren't for the ads (which can be turned on and off with the hardware) we would never have known the IP traffic was being mucked with. I highly recommend that anyone using Redmoon or one of its sister companies use encryption whenever possible. Heck, this is probably a good general rule of thumb to follow...you never know who's watching. - meteors, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2This needs to be stopped, now.
If we don't draw the line, it will become standard practice.
Any lawyers out there?
-j - gopanthers, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2This isn't legal and there will be major lawsuits over this. It's not a matter of your rights as a surfing viewer, it's about the fact that the content owner's website IS automatically copyright the second it's published and NebuAD (and any ISP's that use NebuAD) are infringing copyrights by altering this content without permission. The fact that they are profiting on top is icing on the cake. Just wait and some major content provider with money for lawyers will take this to court and slam dunk it.
- chrisr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It's affecting my work ISP, Redmoon. http://www.redmoonbroadband.com I also found a Jaiku post with someone complaining about the same thing with MoonOverAddison, which is part of the Redmoon family: http://jaiku.com/channel/twit/presence/4880265. Has anyone noticed this with a different ISP?
- jimanjajoo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I can't believe an ISP would do this. Especially to paying customers. The ad agency behind this is evil. For free internet access I could understand, but a pay-for service should be ad free, especially if they cost $20 a month like this ISP does.
- diggeon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I love their privacy policy "RedMoon text to come." - http://www.redmoonbroadband.com/privacy.html
- primal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It appears only in HTML for .com domains. And the ads only appear to show up when the content on the page is centered and there is enough room for the ads on the side. But the script in injected after the closing HTML tag, effectively creating invalid HTML.
- go1dfish, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Does anyone have any info on how selectively it injects the javascript? Must the fetched page include opening/closing HTML tags? Is it dumb enough to inject javascript into REST or SOAP style API calls? If so this could break quite a few things.
HTML Source from an infected page may be helpful in determining this (by looking to see where the code is injected relative to it's regular tags) - Fjodor42, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Is it confirmed that the ads are only injected for .com domains? At the risk of sounding like I want to promote my own site, I would like to have someone affected visit http://molgaard.org and report back at sune@molgaard.org. If my site is altered by this ISP, I am prepared to look into the matter and the possibility of a lawsuit.
- chrisr, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0Sorry, double post.
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