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- indycolts88, on 04/10/2009, -4/+199All those diggs and it still hasn't hit front page? Digg is definitely censoring!
- SnapETom, on 04/10/2009, -5/+121765 diggs, yet doesn't show up on the front page. Search for DiggBar, and this post doesn't come up. ***** you, Digg Staff, and ***** you, Kevin Rose.
- digitalstation, on 04/10/2009, -2/+105769 Diggs in 15 hours and it's not on the front page nor is it in the search results. I smell a rat.
I actually like the diggbar but hate censoring... - hammerikaner, on 04/10/2009, -10/+96Let the rants of the "mindless, borderline illiterates" begin!
- petekazanjy, on 04/10/2009, -0/+73Loving the "special message." Very DaringFireball.
- HesNikke, on 04/10/2009, -1/+72yes, i actually pulled my old account out of retirement just to digg this story. reddit has a similar feature, but you as a user need to turn it on.
- ElecBoy, on 04/10/2009, -5/+66Messager with the DiggBar:
Dear Digg,
Go ***** yourself.
Your pal,
—J.G.
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Thanks! - 17999, on 04/10/2009, -1/+62I turned diggbar, that annoying piece of *****, back on... just to see his special message.
Was not disappointed. - shogunwarrior, on 04/10/2009, -2/+63One of the many reasons why JG is my most respected blogger.
- NoCalSF, on 04/10/2009, -0/+5017hrs over 900, no Front Page! Really?!
- petekazanjy, on 04/10/2009, -4/+53Oh, link to the original story, minus f-bombs: http://daringfireball.net/2009/04/how_to_block_the ...
- MikeOSX, on 04/10/2009, -1/+47Pure awesomeness.
- Spamkip, on 04/10/2009, -0/+45Just had to digg this, because the diggbar sucks and because censoring sucks even more
- serif69, on 04/10/2009, -1/+45As a daily reader of both DF and digg, I couldn't agree more with his sentiment.
- jazzviolin, on 04/10/2009, -0/+43I just contacted Digg.
Guess what -- if you want to see articles that have been moved to 'buried status' (they won't tell you how that works) you have to add +b to your search.
So, if you search for 'block diggbar' - one article comes of (that seems to question why you would ever try to disable it) -- at time of writing, ~9 diggs.
Gruber's link has now 1300 diggs, but is no where. It's the first hit on Google, but on Digg's so-called revamped search engine -- it's no where. Why? It has been moved to 'buried status' -- I asked digg, and they won't tell you how buried status works:
"The Digg.com community has collectively voted to bury the story to which you refer. Though the story has been buried, it is still available on Digg.com."
"Q: Why are you so secretive about your promotional/bury algorithm?
A: We don't release information about our algo to help prevent gaming, abuse, spam, etc."
To quote Gruber, this is, of course, total *****.
Bottom line - if you want to see Gruber's article, you have to search for "block diggbar +b" -- which will never happen, as no one knows about it. - inactive, on 04/10/2009, -1/+39Are you surprised somehow? You are only allowed to view admin-approved content! Why do you hate our freedom-within-the-lines?
- inactive, on 04/11/2009, -1/+381466 diggs in 23 hours, no front page?
- flosofl, on 04/10/2009, -1/+35Nice.
This is just another example why I never use Digg. I think this may be only the second time I've logged into the site over the course of a couple years. The signal to noise ratio is too low, ***** like this "digg bar", and, most egregious, burying this story.
Really, I challenge anyone to find this story by any other method than a direct link. Front page: nope. Upcoming: nope. Search: nope. This censoring of any and all criticism is tired and pathetic. - wafu, on 04/10/2009, -1/+34Wow Gruber, scathing. I love it!
- Cyanbane, on 04/10/2009, -0/+31Haven't logged into Digg in a long time. Digging this up was way worth it.
- bmxposer, on 04/10/2009, -0/+29Ya, amazing I still don't see this in the top in 24 hours...
- yDNA, on 04/10/2009, -1/+27You tell em, Gruber!
- inactive, on 04/11/2009, -2/+27I think Kevin Rose has an extra button on his digg bar where he can block submissions from the front page. ;)
- itsmeee, on 04/10/2009, -0/+24A tool of awesomeness
- wush, on 04/10/2009, -0/+24It is *****.
Usability awkwardness + Digg Inc. extending their reach to where it's not welcome. - JoshuaJones, on 04/10/2009, -1/+24Evolve? Take a minute to read his post where he talks about this method of ***** was used in the 90's with Netscape 2.0.
Quote - "URLs are the building block of the Web. They tell the user where they are. They give you something to bookmark to go back or to share with others.
The DiggBar breaks that, and I’ve seen no argument that makes it any more sense to support this than it does to support 1996-style <frameset> site embedding." - SnapETom, on 04/11/2009, -2/+24So, this article hits, the DiggStaff buries it to hell so that real users won't ever see it? Very democratic.
This *****'s going to bite you guys in the ass.
(1500+ diggs) - MacPestor, on 04/10/2009, -2/+23I had Digg bookmarked with other pages for my daily reading. John Gruber is right. I am deleting the bookmark and may come back if Digg stops this stupidity.
- V0rt, on 04/11/2009, -0/+20lol@ the attempted damage control jen.
If a story can be buried before it even as a chance to take off, and remain buried after 2,000+ diggs it's a good sign ***** needs to be changed. - rossnyc, on 04/10/2009, -0/+20He's right. Every day Digg users are getting dumber and dumberer.
- itsmeee, on 04/10/2009, -0/+20Same here :) I don't have anything against Digg, but the bar seems bad for so many reasons... well bad for everyone but digg
- phixed, on 04/10/2009, -1/+19really not into the censorship here.
http://digg.com/search?s=diggbar&sort=digg - Aichon, on 04/10/2009, -1/+19I think the concept is reprehensible. People used to do this back in the late 90s and early 2000s with framesets, and just because a new generation of Internet users has come in and they aren't necessarily aware yet of what sorts of nonsense was around back then doesn't mean that doing it is any more ethical or acceptable than it was back then. That's especially so in a case like Digg, where the whole idea is to pass the person off to the third-party site. That's what makes Digg useful (at least to some). By failing to hand off the user, Digg's own credibility is severely diminished.
Google Image Search is one thing, since users are trying to find specific images and don't need to see or care about the site as a whole (but Google still drives traffic to those pages when it could just as easily scrape the images and not provide links), but a news aggregator should hand off its users to the original news sites and shouldn't try to keep control of the users. Regardless of whatever benefits there are to the DiggBar, the idea is fundamentally flawed and is most certainly standing on broken moral ground. - artaxerxes, on 04/10/2009, -0/+18Bad show Digg. Sort this out... or feel my nerd wrath!
- pinheadj, on 04/10/2009, -1/+19Fantastic
- LukasMathis, on 04/10/2009, -3/+20Some points a lot of people seem to miss:
1) Gruber's main problem isn't the digg bar, it's the fact that digg hijacks his URL. click on the link; you'll see Gruber's page, but a digg URL
2) As for driving traffic to his site, Gruber mentions that the digg traffic is useless; digg mostly drives idiots to your site, not valuable visitors - inactive, on 04/11/2009, -4/+21Want proof? I've got it. Caught the admins red handed when they censored me for writing comments in regards to this post.
http://imgur.com/1VW0Q.png Here is what they do: they censor you, and then they tell you that OTHER USERS are censoring you. Tell other people about this. I don't have the means to do so myself. - random44, on 04/11/2009, -0/+17Great reason to stay away from Digg. Bad move guys - fix it fast! Ditch the digg bar, and don't bury stories that are critical of Digg.
- chaos7, on 04/11/2009, -0/+16digg, if you are censoring stories, that is not cool. you are going to piss off your users.
- netmaster123, on 04/11/2009, -0/+16Why is this not on the frontpage of Digg?
- inactive, on 04/10/2009, -2/+17DF, digg, and reddit here. Couldn't agree more.
The toolbar is fantastic for the digg admins. Easy marketing. It's a lot like ebaumsworld (the real one) putting watermarks on other people's content.
The toolbar is convenient for some users. What percentage? I am not sure. Should make a poll. Either way, there are users who hate it.
The toolbar is a ***** annoyance for a large portion of non-users who get these links.
It's a win, half-win, lose! That doesn't sound so good, but the admins are in it (digg) for the fame and fortune. Keep that in mind ;) - inactive, on 04/11/2009, -1/+15"this story was buried yesterday when it had a much lower Digg count. As always, once a story is buried, even if it gains traction, it won't hit the homepage."
That's a ***** great algorithm you retards got going on there. - mistersquid, on 04/10/2009, -0/+14I don't think I've ever used this Digg account other than creating it a year or two ago and checking out the lay of the land. I logged in just to pile on the hate. Digg, you ***** suck for this move. Do the right thing and move on with your lives.
- itsmeee, on 04/10/2009, -0/+14If you read JG's article about it, he mentions why he does this http://daringfireball.net/2009/04/how_to_block_the ...
- newbill123, on 04/10/2009, -0/+14"Good riddance, really."
- captaindigger, on 04/11/2009, -0/+13Guess this pretty much goes to show that Digg is no longer a democracy. I don't think I have ever seen an article with so many diggs not make it to the front page. Kevin Rose must be personally keeping this one off the front page.
- rspeed, on 04/10/2009, -0/+13No, that's true. He is a tool.
But he's a tool who has a disturbingly high probability of being right about just about anything. - rimantas, on 04/10/2009, -0/+13Evolution works like this: you have something, mutation happens to it. If this mutation gives advantage —
it survives and spreads on. If it is unsuccessful it just dies off ("***** yourself" is not a viable method to
spread you mutated genes).
This case is a bit different, but I hope it will die anyway. - thefaj, on 04/10/2009, -0/+13Um…why are there no search results for this?
http://digg.com/search?s=how+to+block+the+diggbar
Search results snapped in case it changes:
http://skitch.com/alexfajkowski/bmj3x/search-for-h ... - mconwell, on 04/11/2009, -1/+14HA - Diggbar listed as a Browser Hijacker on Wikipedia. I read it on the internet, so its gotta be true
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_hijacker
A browser hijacker is a form of malware or spyware that replaces the existing internet browser home page, error page, or search page with its own. These are generally used to force hits to a particular website. -
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