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- schleppo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+109This line from page 4 had me rolling: "...my marketing efforts will dominate your face". That should probably be on a t-shirt.
- TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -3/+54"Bill gates has been known to throw tantrums, and frequently sleeps with Michael Dell, and other corporate Nazis."
wtf? - etjrowe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+50Holy crap! The rant he rolls into on the second page is AMAZINGLY strange/stupid/unrelated! Who would buy from such a dumb *****?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+48Me
6:22:29
Is Meth abuse a required corporate rule?
ZioHelp
6:22:51
Nope.
Me
6:23:10
Can you explain the actions of your CEO in any other way than "meth binge"?
ZioHelp
6:23:23
Nope.
Me
6:23:36
So you admit that your CEO enjoys crystal meth?
6:23
ZioHelp disconnected - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+49The anti-Microsoft rant wasn't even original - he plagarized it
http://grimthing.com/archives/2004/04/09/why-people-continue-to-use-microsoft-windows/ - ophilye, on 10/12/2007, -4/+52What I hate about people quoting the article is how to digg them..
Digg them up for allowing me to not have to visit the site...
Or digg them down because I disagree with something that was writtten?
Gaaahh.. I need a "Yeah but...." option. - Dycacian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+38I think he needs to get some sleep, then come back to the forum, and read what he wrote.
- awilke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35He may be 19, have 75 million dollars in land and went to college at 15 but he doesn't have any concept of business practices.
- bpapa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34My comment that I am posting right now WILL DOMINATE YOUR FACE
- futureisours, on 10/12/2007, -5/+37is this for real? the web site looks professional, but this guy is a git. is he really the owner of this company or someone passing himself off to smear them.
- mightyjlr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31what a tool...
http://www.ziosys.com/images/suit.jpg - kingkilr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32He hasn't slept in 3 days, or seen a bed in 6 months. Get real :)
- afruff23, on 10/12/2007, -13/+44Bliq, trust me. We sell stuff cheaper than New Egg, but the business is a 4 legged business. I make money other ways.
Besides I own 75 million dollars of farm land, bankruptcy isn't a problem for a really long time.
While we are on the bankruptcy topic.....
Newegg.com went bankrupt 6 times last year, and was bought out by tons of different US distribution offices.
newegg.com is an over-rated shipping warehouse, the only reason that they are still around is that large distribution companies like D&H, who legally owns newegg.com now, uses it as an outlet to move outdated products.
Fedex, and UPS hate newegg.com because they lose money on everything they ship. Plus newegg doesn't offer support.
Don't worry, I've done my homework. I just didn't do it in High School.
I was to busy programming Video Games, besides we support open source.
It's not a marketing ploy, that would make me evil in denial, Like Google...
On the google topic, f*** google. They are just like microsoft, in fact some of their EULA's are even more disgusting than Apples.
Sun Microsystems, SUN = Stanford University Network.
Old Rinkley Balled Owner of Sun Microsystems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Bechtolsheim) gave Sergey Brin, and Larry Page $100,000.00 , and they basically stole some sh*t just like Microsoft did.
Btw, f*** Stanford University. These old rich fodder f***s that run our market and country really piss me off.
Google began as a research project in January 1996 by Larry Page and Sergey Brin, two Ph.D. students at Stanford University, California.[10] They hypothesized that a search engine that analyzed the relationships between websites would produce better results than existing techniques, which essentially ranked results according to the number of times the search term appeared on a page.[11] Their search engine was originally nicknamed, "BackRub" because the system checked backlinks to estimate a site's importance.[12] A small search engine called Rankdex was already exploring a similar strategy.[13]
Thanks for being a Hypocrite like Mac.
So Why is Microsoft still in business?
Obviously, it’s not for its security model. Redmond has only recently begun to pay more than lip-service to its efforts at securing its operating system by including firewall software with recent service packs for XP (although it’s still turned off by default). See if some of the following names mean anything to you: Melissa, Blaster, Nimda, Slammer, NetSky and Bagle? Sound familiar? These virii have mostly been propagated throughout the net by Windows installations that should have been patched by Microsoft before the operating system shipped. Instead, Redmond ships insecure systems and admonishes users to frequently update their machines via Windows Update, a mechanisim whereby they can shove their unwanted DRM project down the throats of inattentive users.
Continued Windows use isn’t due to Microsoft’s innovative software either. Most of the software that Microsoft has “produced” itself was either bought or stolen from other companies. MS-DOS, which built the MS empire, wasn’t even written by Gates. He bought the rights to QDOS from Tim Paterson of Seattle Computer Products for $50,000 without disclosing the fact that he was intending to license the product to IBM for several times that amount.
The majority of software Windows users can’t live without aren’t even produced by Microsoft. Barring its Office suite, the three “must-have” pieces of software for Windows users, Photoshop, Flash and Quicken, are produced by Adobe, Macromedia and Intuit, respectively. Various other third-party software vendors (Roxio, MusicMatch, Nullsoft, etc.) that haven’t gotten around to (and/or refuse to) port their software, round out the list.
So, if people aren’t using Windows for its secure, innovative, in-house produced software, why are they sticking around? A monopoly can’t stay a monopoly if it doesn’t continue to generate revenue, why do users continue to pay money to a company that produces, at best, mediocre software? The answer is obvious, once you’ve read it…
Microsoft products don’t make their customers feel stupid.
Much like “outcome-based education”, Microsoft has engineered it’s software for the bottom denominator, the most dense user imaginable. A first-time Windows user can reasonably feel their way around their computer and accomplish basic computing tasks–browsing the ‘net, sending email, listening to music, etc. When they’re stumped, “Windows Help” does a fairly good job of helping. Every setting and resource has a GUI users can click through until they stumble across the correct setting. Tech support for Windows comes in, primarily, with two options–reboot or reinstall. When problems arise that the tech support can’t handle, Redmond has done a superb job of placating the users with the phrase, “it’ll be fixed in the next release”.
There are several other examples of Microsoft’s “innovation”.
Close Combat-Popular game purchased from Atomic Games
Flight Simulator-Purchased from the Bruce Artwick Organisation
Age of Empires-Collabaration with Ensemble studios(Gopal R S)
FrontPage-Microsoft’s HTML editor was purchased from Vermeer Technologies in 1996
FoxPro-This database application came along with Microsoft’s purchase of Fox Software in 1986
Internet Explorer-Desperate to play catch-up in the fast-moving Internet world Microsoft licensed code from Spyglass Inc one of the two licensees of the original Mosaic code base in 1995 and called it MSIE Microsoft then proceeded to distribute MSIE for free denying Spyglass substantial royalties for their key contribution to the product
MS-DOS-The original Microsoft cash cow, this CP/M clone, then called Q-DOS, was purchased from the Seattle Computer company in 1981. Microsoft then proceeded to thwart Seattle Computer’s license rights to the product. The tiny company sued Microsoft and prevailed in court.
Object Linking Environment (OLE)-Microsoft settled a suit with Wang Labs over patent infringement code portions of OLE which is also the heart of Microsoft’s ActiveX
PowerPoint-This presentation software package was renamed and re-branded after Microsoft’s purchase of Forethought Inc in 1987
SQL Server-This important database product is based on code purchased from Sybase in 1988
Visual Basic-Ruby, the foundation for Microsoft’s highly important Visual Basic product, was purchased from Cooper Software in 1991
Visual C-Microsoft purchased the Lattice C code compiler which became Visual C, Microsoft’s software development environment
Visual SourceSafe-Purchased from OneTree Software. Shortly after OneTree’s SourceSafe was released, Microsoft preannounced a similar application called Microsoft Delta which failed to sell. Microsoft then purchased OneTree and renamed SourceSafe as Microsoft Visual SourceSafe.
Windows-Technologies used in Windows multitasking came to Microsoft with their purchase of Dynamical Systems in 1986. Portions of the interface were licensed from Apple Computer, also in 1986
XENIX-Microsoft’s version of Unix was actually written under contract by the Santa Cruz Operation(SCO)
Bill gates has been known to throw tantrums, and frequently sleeps with Michael Dell, and other corporate Nazis.
I'm sorry I cannot stand in the way while these corporate giants steal and buy large bull dozer's with daddy's trust funds.
Michael Dell was a great man no doubt, but he gave in to easily.
Now seeing that I hate political corrupt bull****, the only way for me to change this crap is to control %75 of the computer market and force Microsoft out of business. I sell windows, but I don't buddy buddy with them. After it's said and done, I can hire 146 representatives into the house of reps and kick the liars out.
I'll probably die trying, at the age of 37 from a heart attack or better yet a nuclear blast, but at least I can live with myself everyday until then. - TheWorkz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30Well, now he's done it.. He is now attacking the whole digg community.
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That farm land, will never be sold. It's for insurance purposes only.
Besides, Digg.com is a bunch of skeptical computer ignorants.
Oh, no. I'm scared of digg.com and bunch of monopoly companies that steal food from your kids mouth.
No thanks, I'll just continue right along.
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)
Alright digg.com create my own personal Papa Razi before I'm even 20.
People bitch and complain and they over look the obvious.
It's all about who's right, and who's wrong.
I don't have a frontal love so honestly I don't care.
I work for mankind not the company.
If you have a problem with this ethic, your not forced to purchase anything from us.
You can thank your four fathers for that.
------------------- - eon1713, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32Say it and it shall come, http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?article_id=2033538
- Jerim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30$75 million dollars worth of farming land in Alabama, you say? That doesn't make much sense from so many angles.
- dw5304, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27good luck getting though. i have called them about 400 time i talke to a human 15 times
- nrfx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24See, this is why its a bad idea to start a business after a lengthy meth binge.
- illahtech, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26Wow Digg has the power to crash GideonTech? I would have thought they'd have the server power to hold up longer than that. Or maybe all their budget was spent pimping out the server's case :-)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24This owner of "Zio systems" is the type of guy who spends the first 10 years of his adult life performing consumer fraud, and the next 10 years in jail because of it.
- pushmouse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24It is a template. The site is using Joomla. A free, Open Source content management system. I use it all the time with my clients.
- sonaro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23He has a digg account:
http://www.digg.com/users/ziosystems/news/dugg - lowerlogic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22"1797 Guests are viewing this topic." @ 143 diggs - There's an accurate measurement of the digg effect for ya.
- mayan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Wow. Some people just shouldn't be talking.
Now I see the need for PR firms .... - redeyesofnight, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Soooo....One page one this dude says:
"I myself have not slept in 3 days, I have not seen a bed in over 6 months."
On Page 2, same day he says:
"I'm not a douche, just a logical person. I literally slept on the floor, in my warehouse last night."
That amused me. - lolx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23More Evidence: This guy "Brad" from ziosys spammed our Forum too here is the link to the convo:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn/ziosys.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Jason: I want to buy a computer.
ZioHelp: How can I help you Jason?
Jason: My name is Fred.
ZioHelp: Sorry Fred.
Jason: What's the most expensive computer you have?
ZioHelp: It depends, we have quite a lot to choose from, liquid cooling, and such.
Jason: I see
ZioHelp: We sell servers and things of that nature, so it really all boils down to what your going to be using the computer for.
Jason: Well, I just want my porn to play good.
ZioHelp: Then you would want the Aqua performance system.
ZioHelp: It even comes with code packs so all of the porn plays correctly.
ZioHelp: Got to hate it when you download 500GB and then it won't play.
ZioHelp: :)
Jason: Ah yes, and what's the biggest hard drive I can get in that?
ZioHelp: 4 Terabytes.
Jason: WOW. You know how many videos of my 13 year old daughter I could keep on that thing?!
Jason: And how much is that model?
... No reply. :'(
This dude is a completely joke. I'm only 16, and I'm probably 10000 times more mature than him. I spell better, too. - ProximaC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21That would mean he owns... all of Alabama?
- CaptShmo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Here's the site:
http://www.ziosys.com/
looks like a template to me - firblitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Here is the dude's resume: http://computerassistant.com/show_file.asp?name=1560008430&file_extension=htm
Highlights:
Sales Manager at Dell - I assume that this is where he learned how to market so good that it dominates faces.
Mediocre Photoshop knowledge - Could have told you that by the site.
CompUSA - Worked there for 4 whole months. Clap clap. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21You shouldn't digg something down because you disagree with it, if it's well written and I disagree with it, I tend to digg it up just because of how they present their position.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19From JimmyJames in that forum:
I really hated to get to this point, but he did make fun of digg and its people...
This pulled from Kentucky on his business...
http://apps.sos.ky.gov/business/obdb/(jcbvihmawhldgo455lxw0zrd)/showentity.aspx?id=0641630&ct=06&cs=99999
and he lives in a little apartment here..
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=3351+COVE+LAKE+DRIVE,+Kentucky&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.035373,82.265625&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=37.995951,-84.44507&spn=0.00651,0.013561&t=h&om=1&iwloc=addr
Why would someone who has a $75m in farmland live in a little old apartments that look like crap...
http://www.apartments.com/partner/IMGtour.aspx?page=IMGtour&view=1&property=129639.1&p=gglebase&state=KY&partner=gglebase&prvpg=36#photos
PWND - Snowcone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17That guy is a whiny loser. He's crying like anyone cares about the struggles of starting a business. Does he think he's the only person to have it rough in the beginning? Give me a break and cry me a river.
Ziosys... welcome to my blacklist. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17"I myself have not slept in 3 days, I have not seen a bed in over 6 months"
... The average consumer doesn't care. - dannybull, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Won't we all look stupid when his marketing efforts dominate our face?
- polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16You diggers really amaze me sometimes
...he looks like he is one of those dudes who approach you with a pyramid scheme flailing about owning your own business.... - aMeta4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15This was posted a moment ago on the GT Forum....I think this post may pretty much sum up the situation exactly (thanks dyssident)
Re: Zio Systems - Computer Hardware, Desktops & Notebooks
« Reply #79 on: Today at 10:20:31 PM »
Sorry to register just to post on this thread, but this has to be said.
ZioSys is a hoax. ZioSys is clearly comprised entirely of one megalomaniacal teenager that somehow got a merchant account, one slightly modified free website template and some paperwork filed with the state of Kentucky. Their facilities consist entirely of one crappy apartment in suburban Lexington.
Instead of building an actual business, Brad is obsessed with the trappings of legitimacy. Hence the fake Microsoft certification, claiming that they make MSI's gear, ripping off NewEgg's verbiage, etc. All 4 positive reviews on Reseller Ratings are clearly fake posts. The first two have identical profiles and the same post date; they even use the same phraseology. Same profiles and post dates for the second two positives. Interestingly, the negatives all tell similar stories: paid, waited forever, no product. My guess is that ZioSys doesnt keep any stock at all; they take the money and then maybe ship if they can find the ordered parts at a retailer cheap enough to make a profit.
Brad's posts read like they were written by someone with rapidly cycling bipolar disorder. He goes on manic, incoherent rants, quickly apologies, then on to the next rant. His claims are contradictory because he doesn't or cant think them out ahead of time. He also has a bizarre habit of pretending to be different people in order to gloss over his previous weirdness. When no one buys it, he claims its all part of his grand plan. In the video posted above, he claims that all of this bad publicity was a ploy to get people to recognize ZioSys "as [he] wanted them to." Consider this gem from the ZioSys site: "Just as language was key in creating organized societies in the early stages of human life, so is information key to helping man go beyond the boundaries of those societies into a new age of human development. Zio Systems will be the foundation for that development and much, MUCH, more." ZioSys is no simple reseller, it's the catalyst for the next evolution of mankind.
My guess is that Brad's laughable overreaction to criticism comes from the mismatch between his feelings of grandeur (see his bit about shutting Bill Gates up) and his lowly station in life. That people don't instantly defer to him makes no sense and is simply intolerable. - alphaborie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Get the f*** off my back, my marketing efforts will dominate your face. -- ZioSystems
- hackmiester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15kenzan and ZioSystems
Same person - lolx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Interview with ZioSys CEO: Brad Burns
https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn/ziosys.mov - brewer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I seriously think this guy may be schizophrenic.
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Symptoms:
>Paranoid delusions, or delusions of persecution, for example believing that people are "out to get" you, or the thought that people are doing things when there is no external evidence that such things are taking place.
>Delusions of grandeur - for example when you believe that you are very special or have special powers or abilities. An example of a grandiose delusion is thinking you are a famous rock star.
-Disorganized speech: Another obvious one. He thoughts are all over the place and incoherent, often times not even addressing the points that are put in front of him and dodging the issues with random excuses that hold no water. And while I really can't fault someone for their poor spelling and grammar, his is abysmal. For someone who is trying to come across as a competent business owner he is killing his own reputation. Not only that but he curses (albeit censored cursing) in his own business advertisements.
-Also (nearly jokingly) he comments on his own products and services with other usernames: clearly multiple personalities!
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Other interesting points:
In one of his (plagiarized) rants he talks about how he despises corporate fat cats with their "daddy's trust funds", yet he constantly spews about how his grandfather left him $75M in Alabama farmland.
On his "about" page of his company's website, he says:
"We have highly trained and knowledgeable phone technicians, as well as quick responses to all technical problems in 100% English."
but then on the same page, says:
"Zio Systems™ focuses on language as a core value for employees....We have many employees that already speak other languages...Most of the software we use on our systems is multilingual and supports almost every language that is commonly used....Among those who work at Zio Systems, languages spoken are Spanish, English, German, Russian, Korean, Chinese, and Japanese.....Although the phone systems will only be setup to support English and Spanish for the time being, the website will be translated into many more languages than those listed above."
Also, he says he specialized in web design, but his company's website uses a Joomla template.
I'm sure I could go on for hours, but I don't really feel like wasting any more of my time thinking about this wacko. - mikaelc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20Most of the long rant on page 2 is actually just pasted from: http://grimthing.com/archives/2004/04/09/why-people-continue-to-use-microsoft-windows/
(written by by someone else in 2004) - SteveMax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13From http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=106208 (first post, from a user called "Espeed"):
"My name is Brad Burns, I'm the President and Founder of Zio Systems."
On the single article submitted by "ziosystems", http://www.digg.com/hardware/Zio_Systems_A_new_computer_manufacturer_Perseverance_over_Adversity (first post, from a user called "espeed", whose name is "Brad T. Burns"):
"Trying something different, Wow."
And:
".. Are you going to be hard on someone for working to build something, have you ever tried building a business like that? Getting website advertisement in mass is quite difficult especially this day and age Man, market research would be the least of my worries at the moment, and besides looks like they will have that soon, good luck! Got my digg, always ready to support new business."
It's the only article where espeed has commented. - SteamyV, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14So who's gonna bite the bullet and call their "customer support" line? What better way to flush out a hoax? If nothing else, I'd love to hear what this guy thinks about making the Digg frontpage.
Toll Free - 1-888-9-ZIOSYS (1-888-994-6797) - polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13LMAO and the only thing he did with it is SPAM!!!!oneoneone!!
- KnightMareInc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14im sold
- drwiii, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12This totally reeks of an "over-ambitious 18-year-old Linux/open-source script kiddie setting out to tear down the scumbags in corporate America and change the world with open source e-solutions" play. I've seen it too many times over the years from too many different people.
What it boils down to is this:
- Reality likely has no bearing on his claims and commitments. As far as he's concerned, he can move mountains.
- In true WWE style, he'll talk the talk of a big-time bad-ass CEO.
- He's probably too inexperienced to know that, outside of the entertainment industry, when you bring drama into business, you will look unprofessional and ultimately fail.
- If he was actually employed by a large corporation at any point (Dell, in this case), they probably fired him for being a dick who mistakenly thought he was right and they were wrong.
- Although he claims to employ many, he is likely his only employee.
- I'll give you three guesses as to where his "warehouse" is, and the first two don't count.
- While he claims to be too busy to help his customers, he likely has all the time in the world.
- He will likely fail, not change the world, and end up back at work for the corporate America he so despises in a year or two. Or in prison.
Frankly, if you send money to someone that's operating like that, you deserve precisely what you get. Chalk it up to youthful stupidity and move on. Sad thing is, I'm sure there are lots of successful 18-year-olds with legit operations that actually deserve to get the spotlight.
Prospective entrepreneurs should take note. If this clown can attract and lose customers while allegedly screwing things up so badly, you can attract them and keep them for the long term. - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12How did Michael Dell become one of the world's richest men? It wasn't by pissing off customers. He only started that later (once you make that first billion the pressure is off). I remember when Dell was just one of dozens of system vendors, hardly distinguishable from the pack. They must have done something to pull ahead...could it have been Internet flamewars? Taking customers' money and not delivering? Being an eccentric dick, not answering the phone, having a generic storefront, advertising in bizarre locations?
- OsiVert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12@stevemax
Wow, and the other forums has him posting things like "I used Zio Systems to buy a laptop and had great customer service." Then he comes out saying he is the president in another post. - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13The only thing I know for sure is that he got more traffic to his website today than any day in history. New form of guerrila marketing? Start flame wars to drive traffic?
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