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- kevinrose, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17It's official - illegal movie downloads are over!!! *pulls up thepiratebay* .. oh wait.. nevermind.
- levitymn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Here I find my self a dejected optimist once again. I had heard earlier in the day that there was going to be a press release by Bram Cohen (of BitTorrent) and them MPAA. Considering his public denouncements against piracy I figured we were going to see the first of the world changing deals where the P2P industry and the Entertainment industry teamed up to give people what they want. What the people want being direct purchasing and renting of new movies at lower rates than the video store with faster downloads and better quality than piracy. Instead I read an article about the rape of Bram by the movie industry and him taking it in the hopes of winning their favor and money in the future. I wonder how many root kits will come from future DVDs in the near future?
- nymphetamine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"The agreement requires 30-year-old software designer Bram Cohen to prevent his Web site, bittorrent.com, from locating pirated versions of popular movies"
does anyone use bittorrent.com? - Nowheredan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Best. Scam. Ever. These idiots probably think that he has some kind of control over Bittorrent at large. All he controls is one search engine. Haw.
- DownloadThis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://search.bittorrent.com/search.jsp?query=batman&Submit2=Search
just a search for "batman". - strangeman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Funny... I just found out that you could search for stuff on bittorrent.com by reading the yahoo article. I didn't even know before ;) Neither do any of my friends AFAIK.
No harm done ;) - bossm4n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Congrats Bram, they took the placebo.
- TigerClaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Interesting, Though it's not gonna stop many other bit torrent sites from providing bootleg movies, the way I see this, Its just bit torrent.com itself
- mtalon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That falls under the "well, duh" category. Bram has said he doesn't promote BT as a piracy tool. This just stays within that.
Digging it anyway... - strangeman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Additionally: I rather expected a move on the MPAA's side. I thought they might ask Cohen to implement a commercial distribution service. That would have been pretty cool. I mean.. if you remove the costs of publishing a DVD.. what remains? Maybe something like $3? All those iTunes users would happily download DVDs for that price and burn them themselves.
- thekak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wonder if he got any money.
- ThrillSeeker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1oh yeah, that'll help.
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does anyone else think this is like the MPAA negotiating an agreement with FTP because some people use it to do illegal things? Bittorrent is an open protocol with much potential.
- cogent_bob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2s/rape/enrichment/p
I think Bram just finished step one of his two step plan to go from merely rich to filthy rich.
Way to GO!! - traviswalters, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I didn't even know bitorrent.com existed or had a search engine. I don't use the official client. If the MPAA really believes this will somehow slow down piracy they obviously don't employ the right people.
- noahfingway, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So when are thay going to shut down google? "filename" Filetype:torrent
- JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Any self respecting user of bittorrent technologies uses some form of site like ed2k-it or some other - I can honestly say though I've never downloaded a movie using bittorrent, I actually prefer to pay a monthly fee for as many movies as they'll mail me in a month. I get what I want, I get it in the quality I want, and I'm paying a reasonable amount ($34.99/month) vs $34.99 to buy 1 movie or $150 to rent the equvilent number of movies from a regular video store (excluding late fees or restocking charges whatever you want to call them).
The movie industry really needs to clue in, they're loosing millions not because ppl are stealing their product, but because they're making uninteresting//satisfying product, and they're greed is just blatent. they spend $40,000,000 making a movie, it does reasonably and makes $100,000,000 at the box office, another $15,000,000 - $50,000,000 in merchandising, video game spin offs, etc, then another $80,000,000+ on video. Its quite the return on an investment in any book.
I don't know any factual numbers but when I used to download movies (pre-bit torrent) I would find maybe 9-10 sources for any particular movie generally, so multiply that by several networks//sources, different users on at different times, etc lets say 10,000 ppl download each of these movies. Now lets say a very generous $10 goes to the studio for every copy... $100,000 per movie. $100,000 out of an $80,000,000 pie. Lets say my numbers are grossly low... lets say its 100,000 ppl... $1 million out of $80,000,000... why are we not screaming at them to reduce prices? maybe we wouldn't want to steal something if we could own it legitimately for a far more reasonable cost? Anyway, enough ranting, and again, these numbers are purely conjecture but the point remains, Hollywood makes far far too much money for substandard product. - DewayneSmith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"It's official - illegal movie downloads are over!!! *pulls up thepiratebay* .. oh wait.. nevermind."
Oh noes! :-O ThePirateBay and it's "1337 with eMachine" users and their high speed ISDN connection have been busted! - dpl_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This announcement didnt live upto the hype at all.
- WellbornPants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I guess this is a lot better than the MPAA just suing Bit-torrent into oblivion in an ignorant rage.
- Eyot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Bittorret owns :D and Piratebay will be a long a longg timee.
- Wardvark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Riiight, I always used the bit torrent site to do all my searches, well at least I can still find music.
- Wizard_Prang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have not installed or used BT, but I find this disturbing. Why? Because like Napster, it does not differentiate between downloading legal content (downloading a movie you already own) and illegal content (depriving the industry of a sale).
From where I stand, if your DVD breaks and nobody will replace it - or you already have the movie on VHS - you have already paid for the right to watch the movie, and downloading is reasonable (unless you are the **AA, who think that it is reasonable for them to sell it to you all over again.
The industry's insistence that ALL downloading results in a loss of income for them is fallacious at best and dangerous at worst, resulting in people being sued for downloading a movie they already own.
One day they will wipe out all file copying, only to find that sales are _still_ falling. Then, only then, will they realize that it is not good to give your customers cause to hate you... - wynnwill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0bram gets money. i am sure of it.
- Ambimom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
Psst, pass it on.... Who cares!
In Glickman's world, real men don't type; which is why he and the MPAA are so completely clueless about Bittorrent's influence.
(Tee hee) - ifonly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Additionally: I rather expected a move on the MPAA's side. I thought they might ask Cohen to implement a commercial distribution service. That would have been pretty cool. I mean.. if you remove the costs of publishing a DVD.. what remains? Maybe something like $3? All those iTunes users would happily download DVDs for that price and burn them themselves."
Err, the server usage for a dvd movie, say 4gb will surely cost $'s, a lot more than $3. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0CommonFlix.org and CommonTunes.org are already selling via ecommerce
- vertigoblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ive never been their either...
weird, now that i think about how much i have used the software and benefited from his creation. - Jigsaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The agreement with Cohen would not prevent determined Internet users from finding movies or other materials using tools or Web sites other than Cohen's, but it removes one of the most convenient methods people have used"
Sorry i can't actually say i have used BitTorrent.com for searching for movies. Still good move on Cohen's part. I return for this, he and his technology and website become the preferred vehicle for the Distribution of Movies from the 7 major studios. As and when they can all agree how they are going to price and licence it.
All that's needed now is for someone to produce and even better and quicker way of distributing files and Cohen gets shafted.
So if there is anyone who regularly uses BitTorrent.com for searching for any type of torrent, can you please stop it now.
Here endeth my rant. - vertigoblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0*there... sorry for that
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1http://digg.com/software/Hollywood,_BitTorrent_creator_reach_agreement
http://digg.com/technology/Big_Media_Loves_BitTorrent
http://digg.com/software/BitTorrent_Goes_Hollywood
We might have a dupe here
- digg - regedit2D, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't know many people who get any torrents from the official site. It's every where else.
- kidhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0piratesbay for the win
- wynnwill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this is pretty funny. i really think that hollywood is oblivious enough to think they just down the source of bittorrent piracy.
- Discosis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, I searched for "saw" on bittorrent.com and found some stuff.
Actually I was surprised to see that the site even HAD a search engine given Bram's anti-piracy statements in the past. - Odo08, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The number of Diggs for this article when I pulled up the site was 666.
Coincidence?? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh no, we'll only have mininova, thepiratebay, isohunt, torrentspy, hundreds of private "Members Only" trackers, empornium, puretna, and google!
I guess the MPAA has won this time. :( - Ridernyc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0who cares Bram has nothing to do with BT anymore. No one uses his client, It's not like Bram has any control over BT.
- MilenkoD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Shhhh..... quiet down before they figure out they just got scammed.
- xile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0All this will do is [hopefully] appease the MPAA for a while.
- IronChef, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You go Bram!!! Bram is laughing all to the bank!!!
- kRYPT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I hope this isn't the big announcement..
Everyone was expecting BitTorrent to be used as a platform for legal distribution of movies, and instead we get.. this?? - geoboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I see this as a small step in the right direction to slowly legitimizing bittorrent technology in the eyes of the big business. It ain't all gonna happen overnight, people. The water's still too hot for their taste, but after dipping their toes into it a few times they'll eventually get comfortable and offer all those wet dream geek bittorent fantasies you guys have.
I see the main future competitor to Apple's iTunes using a legitimate bittorrent model. Wait and see. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the "filters" dont work very well :)
http://img272.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wrong1dz.png - Vektuz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0amusing.
They got him to agree to filtering his search results on his own private search engine that nobody uses, probably in exchange for some stupid fee. He's only too happy to do it, and nobody actually uses that site to search for movies anyway. Everyone wins except the RIAA - richIsBored, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Negotiations? A deal?
Wouldn't that require that BOTH parties stand to gain something?
The whole article is about what the MPAA stands to gain. If there's a deal involved then what did Bram get out of it?
We're missing half the story. - sotloo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Napster sold out ok fine, but not BT? Seems like these Hollywood types just don’t get it...look, PEOPLE WANT TO DOWNLOAD MEDIA BURN IT AND OR SHARE IT. We are doing it now and will continue to do it no matter what you say or do so GTF over it. You can either embrace the technology, let people do what they want to do or the market place will fry your nads. Programmers that devolve these delivery technologies need to stop selling out to these bastards that simply want to control everything. If the movie industry had any sense they would release movies on all formats simultaneously PPV satellite and cable, TIVO download, iTunes, DVD, internet download and in the movie theaters they would make more money that way…
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Scam of the year.
- Neptuned, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0holy ***** , i didnt even realize that his site had a search engine. lol.
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