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- Terc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+162Hey Google, what are we going to do tonight?
Same thing we do every night. Try to take over the world! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+77I hope to god they put comcast and road runner out of business.
I PRAY. - megabytehl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+63Looks like AT&T and the other ISPs made google realize their vulnerability. Google, instead of being bitches in washington by trying to bribe off the telecom lobbyists, is going to launch their own ISP and take the Baby Bells head on in their own turf.
- jmacdonagh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+62Don't worry, it's only 0.000000023302400739489511056924691275294% of the total possible IPv6 addresses.
- CorpT, on 10/12/2007, -6/+60I bet those IPv6 addresses are pretty hard to come by. Google must surely be up to something. *rolls eyes*
- lunk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+55Hooray! For Google. I don't really like them cataloging my personal emails (via Gmail), but I don't think they are "taking over the world".
You need to look at this from another perspective : NET NEUTRALITY. Google is rightly afraid that the web is going to become a "Pay per access" venture. If Google wants to fight the good fight, and become a net-neutral ISP, I say, all the better. It's clear none of the big-nosed US companies care about the state or direction of the Internet. I'll take Googles eccentric (if slightly flawed) vision of the web over the US Telcos ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, and twice on sunday. - mck9235, on 10/12/2007, -1/+45I think everyone does, maybe Google will actually provide some compotent support and acceptable uptime.
Just last night my Fios went out, called Verizon, was connected to California, and the woman asked if I was having a hurricane. . . - DarthTurducken, on 10/12/2007, -6/+43"buying up massive amounts of dark fiber'
No doubt the Emperor is behind this. - LucasOman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31@mck9235
You should have said, "No, I'm not a fan of Jager. I'm sipping some 12-year single-malt." - LaminatorX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30I think about Google's Dark Fiber buying spree whenever I hear about the telcos and such wanting to break Net Neutrality and squeeze money about people like Google and Yahoo. If they do try to implement such a scheme, they may find that Google could deploy a near-nationwide low-cost wireless ISP linked to their own backbones very quickly, VoIP, video on demand, the works.
The giant sucking sound coming from the telco's much gaurded last mile in such a scenario would be heard from orbit. - leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3179228162514264337593543950336 (addresses) - 6500000000 (population of earth) =
79228162514264337587000000000 (addresses left available for our robot overlords) - mousky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29There is no such thing as excessive profits. Google is simply thinking about the future - which these days appears to be a novel idea.
- The_Decryptor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30"I bet those IPv6 addresses are pretty hard to come by."
Well, they are only given out to service providers, and/or companies who sell them to other companies (Google has to sell them off to over 200 companies to keep the range) - helfire, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29(2^96) / (3.4 * (10^38)) = 2.33024007 × 10^-10 to be exact
via google calc :) - fantasticjon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29Agreed CorpT. That size address space doesn't mean anything. Even small organizations will be given an ipv6 address space larger than the entire ipv4 internet.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Google is planning to say fuk you to the telcos.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17There will only be the google Tier if they build their own Internet, but if its free...
- benhorstmann, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18they're building a hive mind... duhhhh
until it becomes self-aware... :( - Subcranium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17>>Just last night my Fios went out, called Verizon, was connected to California, and the woman asked if I was having a hurricane.
Take it easy on her. She was probably having an earthquake. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Microsoft nor the government are even trying to do this. If the government began laying tons of fiber to provide cheap, superquick internet access to the public, then I'm sure we'd all be happy.
- cerisaac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I almost agree with you, but "out of business" is to strong. Compittion is a better thing. For us consurmers, compition is most often the best way to better services and lower prices.
- gnilrets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Actually, there are enough IPv6 addresses for 4.3 billion people to have this many addresses.
- puzzlesource, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15they'll probably offer like 10mbit up/down with the catch that all your data is logged and fed to the supreme overlord so that he may let us live another day
- UltraNurd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Let's just call this thing what it is - SKYNET. Judgement Day had to happen eventually.
- jmacdonagh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@helfire
Right, but I multiplied by 100 to get a valid % value.
@pxa270
That's what I said. - UltraNurd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Google would definitely get my business if they can put a fiber into my den; Verizon "currently has no plans" for FiOS in my area of Boston.
- pxa270, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13More precisely it's 2^96 / 2^128 * 100% = 0.0000000232830644 % of the IPv6 space, which means that they can give every second person on earth this amount of addresses and still have some left.
- ptgrogan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I bet that within a few years Google would have enough data AND the technological means to build a pretty mean AI. Just another stepping stone in their quest to "organize the world's data"...
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1379,228,162,514,264,337,593,543,950,336
- vikingcoder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Isn't 640 KB of memory overkill? Who will ever need more than that?
No. That is not a Bill Gates paraphrase - he never said anything remotely like that. It was a consequence of the 16-bit architecture that personal computers were based on back in the early 90's. Just like 64K of memory would last forever in the 8-bit era of the 80's.
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=91182 - UltraNurd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9The IPv6 argument has already been going on for a decade or so. All sides have been represented by gigabytes of vitriol. I don't know who won - but I suspect no one did. You know you want an IP address for every cell in your body...
- mookieXL, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Gimme some of that stuff you smoke
- MrUnderbridge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10"Looks like AT&T and the other ISPs made google realize their vulnerability. Google, instead of being bitches in washington by trying to bribe off the telecom lobbyists, is going to launch their own ISP and take the Baby Bells head on in their own turf."
Um, actually, they are being bitches in washington trying to buy off the telecom lobbyists. And it's about damned time. If you want your government to represent you, you better either have 1) a compelling sob story that plays well in the media, 2) millions of votes to back you up, or 3) billions of dollars to back you up. Google lacks 1) or 2), but it has 3). - ChanKaiShi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7They hold servers by Velcro tape???
"will probably house tens of thousands of inexpensive processors and disks, held together with Velcro tape in a Google practice that makes for easy swapping of components" - sosuke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Orkut is terrible at this point, it has been divided by people that use it.
Really if you don't already know the facts, check it out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkut - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6American. Although I believe it's just the British who have a billion equal to a million millions.
- kd1s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Imagine if Verizon, at&t et al decide to start blocking out google. What google could then do is directly peer with smaller ISPs, or even offer its own service. Lots of people would make the jump.
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7May I be the first to say THANK GOD FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TO MY CURRENT TERRIBLE, OVERPRICED CABLE ISP.
Thank you. - SimonC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@The Decryptor
Wrong. Only /20 (2 ^108 IP addresses or subnets) have those requirements. Google only has a /32. Myself, as a private individual, once possesed a /48.
There is no specific requirement, AFAIK, to have a /32. Even if that's a lot of addresses (a lot more than IPv4), that's nothing compared to the number of IPv6 addresses available. Yet, certainly Google will use it for its infrastructure (a lot of their servers don't need a public IPv4) and I'm sure some of those addresses will be assigned to end-users using their WiFi service (when IPv6 will become more prominent, the sooner the better but I don't see this happening, at least in the US, before 10 years). - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Google already has a MySpace type site.
Orkut - crpietschmann, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Google is not the center of my life.
- Triffid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I think you might be underestimating the uses of an IPv6 address. You must think to the future... when something as small as your coffee cup is addresses to tell when it needs to be refilled :D... Yes, I just looked at my coffee cup to come up with that ;P
- bryanws, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hmm.. Pay Comcast $100 for Cable TV and Internet, and Bellsouth $50 for phone service a month... OR... Google pay for the same things and better. Google, please. I mean what's the worse that can happen? They become just as bad as every other multi-media provider in the US? At least, I get to see how a provider should be for awhile in that case.
- theImposs1ble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i hope google comes out and does something that is cheaper and better than what the telcos are offering so that AT&T, Verizon, Comcast and Cablevision burn big time. i would give my money to google before them any day.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Google is obviously responsible for IPv6 deployment in United States. As AOL is giving away the ISP business, it is possible that Google wants to sell IP's for cars, watches, shoes, refrigerators, etc. We will see Internet even when we wash our theeth. Its a good step for google.
- funkytaco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Working on Internet2, obviously.
- SimonC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The problem with Orkut is the Brasilians: it looks like almost every Brasilian is on Orkut, so it's completely out of proportion and many user-submitted contents are in brasilian/portuguese. I'm not American nor a native english speaker, but you have either to choose between using exclusively English (or another language) for the whole website, or manage different languages separately.
Orkut is really the Babel tower, and like in mythology (or Bible), it failed. - tehgooch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'd buy that for a dollar! I would rather use google than any ISP I have now. Hopefully the telecoms realize they will get killed by google and provide some competition.
- Midas7g, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Clearly Google is planning on being an ISP in the future. But on the bright side, I'd wager it would be free (add supported) to connect to GNet. They're already implementing free wifi in California, and with so much fiber, they'll have bandwidth to spare.
And really... who wouldn't want a GNet connection to go with their GMail account, Google maps, Google calendar, Google notebook, Google ads, Google picture manager, Google Base and GBuy... - eklitzke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"One trend that I've noticed with most (or all) companies is that even when they start out good (doing no evil) eventually, once they get big and powerful enough, they start ignoring their customers or users just because they can."
Yes, it's called human nature. -
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