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- inactive, on 11/01/2007, -2/+23Bad move on Facebook's part. They bought into the old way by getting into bed with microsoft.
In an industry so fickle as social networking websites, Facebook could now be "Netscaped" in 12-15 months. - EllisAshbrook, on 11/01/2007, -4/+18Is it just me, or does does the word Orkut just take the fun out of any announcement?
- rwallen, on 11/01/2007, -0/+11I remember friendster. Didn't they lose all their momentum to myspace and then fill their site with popups, text ads, intersertials and every other annoying advertising distraction?
Yeah, this will go far. - FuzzyBunny, on 11/01/2007, -0/+11Damn them for trying to create an innovative and open platform. Damn them to hell!
- inactive, on 11/01/2007, -1/+12lol@orkut
- WorldBuilder, on 11/01/2007, -5/+15If Google was a woman, I'd ***** it.
- lifenstein, on 05/30/2009, -1/+10Does this mean I'll be able to add my friends to any one of the networks and it will get added to all of them? What does this mean for users of these host networks, apart from the proliferation of apps?
- rossbrown, on 11/01/2007, -3/+11Wait...
Google has a social network? - thebankshow, on 10/31/2007, -0/+8I see a lot of parallels to the instant messaging evolution, and I'd really like a Trillian-like counterpart in the social networking space - except not for programs/apps, but actual communication and usage. I'd rather not join every network, but I'd like to connect to friends on other networks. In the case where I have multiple accounts, I'd like a single interface to manage them all.
- hehdot, on 10/31/2007, -3/+10Orkut? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
- Coolaborations, on 11/01/2007, -4/+10Calling a closed alliance "open" is dubious at best!
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+5And that woman would follow you around checking your emails and web searches searching for ways to entice you into buying things.
- snowtwist, on 11/01/2007, -2/+7The networks Google is working with are a long way behind Facebook. Facebook has too much momentum, but they need to sell now to get the crazy $15 bn. It can't go up any further.
- R2Bacca, on 10/31/2007, -0/+4I, for one, ..... ahhh screw it.
- limpits, on 10/31/2007, -0/+4Facebook is big mainly in the US. The networks that Google is working with are worldwide. Even if Facebook is huge here the "OpenSocial" which I believe they are calling it will be much much bigger because they are pulling from a much larger pool. Google could quite easily take over within a year if they play their cards right and looking at Google's past you can assume they will.
And think of the networks that they are pulling together, LinkdIn and Plaxo are pretty big in the US and most people on facebook have an account on one or both of those. Incase you don't know, Plaxo is what the new AIM uses so anyone that uses Windows and AIM probably also has a Plaxo account (even if they don't know it).
The thing that Facebook needs to work on it expanding past the locations that they are big in right now. With all the new money coming in from Microsoft they easily manage it, the only question is if they care enough. - inactive, on 11/01/2007, -0/+4momentum can be lost VERY quickly in web 2.0. Just look at myspace. its the trailer park of the web now.
If google focuses on a market you can bet that they will either win it or split it 50/50.
But you are right about the selling part though. can you imagine being zuckberg, the clock is ticking on google's assault on his market, he'd sell for 4 billion now. - cbrack, on 10/31/2007, -2/+5I can see a couple advantages of having multiple networks, but theres no way I'm going to use six different sites. Besides, I must say, Facebook > Orkut (in a very big way.)
Google and Friends are going to have to do some innovation if they want to beat Facebook. - Talphin, on 11/01/2007, -2/+5Friendster? I thought that site was on it's death bed???
- PRlME, on 11/01/2007, -1/+4Google and Friends to Gang Bang Facebook
- calon9, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3That describes my current gf. And my last. The one before that too.
- MattBD, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2I wonder if MySpace will sign up? They recently announced plans to open up to third-party developers, and I'd imagine it'd be easier and quicker for them to sign up to this than set about developing their own API's.
I realise that they would have been mentioned in the press release if they were participating from outset, but from what I've heard, it may take a few months before they're in a position to release their own API's. If they participated in OpenSocial, they could probably get it going quicker. In addition, they already have a relationship with Google.
Regardless, this could mark an abrupt reversal in Facebook's fortunes. If you have to learn an entire new markup language to write a Facebook app, but you can write one for a whole group of social networks using regular HTML and JavaScript, and reach twice as many people, I know which one I'd go for. - stoppedcode12, on 11/02/2007, -1/+3This is not meant to complete with facebook at all, OpenSocial is meant to be complementary all social networking sites, and truly is an open system. The only reason facebook didn't join is because their API system is strictly controlled and will not work with OpenSocial unless changes are to be made at facebook's end. OpenSocial also allows easy transition of facebook applications to all participating social networks.
OpenSocial doesn't do much for users, it's mainly targeted for developers to make it easy for their application to run on all social networks. - radiofrequency, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Ever since Facebook got in bed with Microsoft I have hated them.
- ToastPop, on 04/17/2009, -2/+4Hooray, an open social networking standard for a bunch of lame social networks that nobody uses!
A social network can have all the features, but it isn't any good unless a lot of people use it, and for non tech-savvy people (the majority of facebook) it's gonna have to be really impressive to convince them to switch everything over. They won't just jump for any feature like us nerds. - Jordan117, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Orkut, hi5, Friendster, Plaxo, AND Ning? Wow, that's some coalition. I can't wait for Pleeplo, Megaflacket, and Whojamawhatsit to get on board.
*goes into corner, pouts about Google failing to acquire StumbleUpon and Facebook* - roberto_deneero, on 11/01/2007, -1/+3I trust Google way more than Facebook...who wants some little skinny twerp with curly hair managing their info?
- adriankeith, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3"...Orkut, as well as others, including LinkedIn, hi5, Friendster, Plaxo and Ning."
who uses those? I didn't even know they existed. plaxo and ning sounds like a bad drug company. - jamie06260, on 11/01/2007, -1/+3I completely agree. While I like facebook very much, I honestly think that it is completely possible for google to dominate the Social Neworking market like they dominate the search engine market. Before Google, a lot of other search engines had momentum. Facebook won't come down easily, but if Google plays their cards right they could come out on top once again.
- effedup, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Facebook is biggest in Canada, specifically Toronto (which I believe has the largest network).
- GuyeNoir, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2But she'd be 'open' if you know what I mean.
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1“'It is going to forestall Facebook’s ability to get everyone writing just for Facebook,' said a person with knowledge of the plans"
Um, sure. All those Facebook app developers are gonna start writing for another platform because it's more "open". Sounds like Java back in the day - Write once, run anywhere. Do the networks in this alliance even have the combined numbers to match Facebook? Not to mention, I'd say 60-70% of Facebook apps are kind of crappy, just written by Facebook users who thought of something "cool". They're not gonna transition to other networks. - mwalker05, on 11/01/2007, -2/+3we can only hope
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 11/01/2007, -2/+3*were.
- FuzzyBunny, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2The fact that Orkut is in there is completely irrelevant. If open social networking API's catch on then there will be a whole lot of networks that are a lot lamer than Orkut. There will also probably be plenty that are a hell of a lot better too. That's the great thing about open API's. They encourage innovation from all levels.
- FuzzyBunny, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1RTFA. The whole point is that you won't have to use 6 different sites. An open API means that any sites using it are interoperable. And while I agree that Facebook is much better than most other social networks now, can they really out innovate the entire rest of the social networking scene if Open Social catches on?
- minorthreat, on 10/31/2007, -3/+4correct me if Im wrong, but I believe googles motive lies with improving service, they will attract users, which in turn will produce revenue.
Facebook, Myspace, MSN, basically every other competitors motive is to gain revenue with the least amount of work possible. - MattBD, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1Oh, and of course Bebo HAVE signed up. I hadn't got through all my RSS feeds when I wrote that.
- MattBD, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1Further to my previous comment, it appears the answer is "Yes" - check out this link:
http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/
That'll really put the cat amongst the pigeons - Facebook and Bebo seem to be the only two major social networking websites not mentioned. If you can get the same applications on almost all social networking websites, those not participating will suffer. - inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Sarcasm?
- MattBD, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1Fair enough, but now you can see why Google weren't too bothered about losing out. They've completely outmaneuvered Microsoft - by uniting with Facebook's competitors and releasing a common API that's easier to use than Facebook's, they've completely changed the rules of the game. I bet Microsoft's stake in Facebook has gone down in value since OpenSocial was announced.
- bscene, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Read the article before commenting...
"A person briefed on the plans said the sites in the alliance had a combined _____ users, more than ____ the size of Facebook."
I'll let you fill in the blanks :P - emiles, on 11/01/2007, -1/+2Canada is America's hat.
- ivansusanin, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1ok, who else is sick of some new and "hip" social networking site coming along, and having to go through the trouble of signing up and making a new profile. i still get e-mails from people inviting me to hi5, myspace, facebook, WTF
- SniperGX1, on 11/01/2007, -1/+1They implemented a web client to a 10 year old mail protocol. Nothing revolutionary. They didn't saturate it with ads and kept usability in mind. They didn't revolutionize, they did due diligence. Gmail is a really good product but could hardly define an entire corporation in itself.
- trashbeat, on 11/03/2007, -0/+0Certainly not, for us finns anyway, because in finnish slang the word "orkut" means "orgasms".
- Coolaborations, on 11/01/2007, -0/+0I like digg.com -- you should try it sometime!
;D nmw - rasia, on 09/21/2008, -0/+0Google always works with a good social network service like facebook etc.
http://social-network-script.com/ - Alvysyngr, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1What search do you use? Ask.com? hahahahahah
- Topher06, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Gee, perhaps first if people heard of those other networks, they might have a chance against Facebook.
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