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- wavesmash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2GOOG's trading at 90x earnings.
MSFT's at 23x.
MSFT has almost 11B free cashflow.
GOOG has around 830M.
GOOG owes 10.00K.
MSFT owes nothing.
Compare the key statistics
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=MSFT
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=GOOG
I'll hold my MSFT & Berkshire stock.
Warren Buffett isn't going to be buying Google stock any time soon. I don't think he plays bridge with Sergei & Larry. - animalmuther76, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1I agree we could well see google at 500 bucks, but most likly before 12 months, Id say 3-6 months, well see when they submit their next quarter
- w00master, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google's stock is WAY overvalued. Can anyone say Tech Bubble V2?
- PacoDG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wish it'd split already.
- hammerattack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone who says Google's stock is overvalued, or that they're in a bubble, is utterly unqualified to even comment. The per share price of the stock is largely irrelevent, and when you look at the multiple then consider their revenue and profit, you can see that the company is quite healthy. And that's the bottom line for an investory right now is how healthy they are. For future investors, they look at how healthy a company is going to be. Google is making massive investments in R&D which have and will result in real technologies.
If you want to see a bubble, see GM. That company is worthless, but people drove up the share prices. Now the only way GM can justify keeping their shares up is by firing their labor force. Your labor force = your talent, and when you get rid of them, you are either killing yourself, or you're already dead. Look for GM to go into bankruptcy, or get a buyout bid. - ebenthurston, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1for a bunch of smart tech nerds you guys are very naive about the stock market, finance and investing. that or you're all just a bunch of kids who are naive about everything.
- Solis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmm, where does one go to buy stock...
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0:( I wish I got in on the ground floor with that little search company. Who knew a company that sells nothing at all would have a stock worth $500
- lickmygiggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0TopDog
why would they be looking to kill themselves? It's one stock, not the entire market. Most investors spread their money out, not put it all in to one stock....thats just plain stupid. Besides, in todays market you can be notified almost the second a stock begins to plummet and you can get out in time. It's not like we're in the days of ticker tape and stock tickers. - TopDog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I will be laughing when it all comes tumbling down and crashes.. only this time I think it will be a even bigger bubble that bursts, even more than the last time round. The stock is WAY WAY overated. It is not a case of if, but when it will crash, and when it does there will be a lot of people looking for some tall buildings to jump off.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Who's buying this stock at +$400?
That's the question.
I'm pretty sure it's not mom&pop (either directly or via investment funds).
So... that leaves investment banks who were left out in the cold during the IPO. I'd even go as far as to say that the stock is being run up for the direct purpose of crashing it... just imagine being able to clean up the google mess at sub $30/share (not to mention the data windfall of whomever was willing to step up to the plate and buy the whole shabang). I expect to see google open up a new offering of shares before they try to split. It would be highly ironic if they crashed before they split.
Time will tell... (over an arbitrarily long period of time every stock's value always drop to zero).
BTW, does anyone else thing that raw buyer data (in addition to volume data) should be available to the stock consuming public? EDGAR/SEC required disclosures are like trying to figure out a 5"x3" Escher drawing rendered with Crayola Crayons. - laughterkillsme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0last bubble 'burst' because everyone was in more of a rush to by stock tha actually understand what each company did. I hope idiot venture capitals lose thier money this time too.
- ebenthurston, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ AxsDeny
how is it a hassle to leave off that last zero when you enter the buy order on etrade?
share price is irrelevant, look at BRK-A. marketcap is the important number here. - TopDog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0only a matter of time before people realise they are getting ABOLUTLEY no return on advertising through adsense because that is their only revenue stream
- dcasez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Microsoft... interesting stock. If you look at what they've done the last 5 years (stock price) you realize how good of an investment they have been since 2000. Basically nothing. I don't think free cash flow matters as much as Talent, and Google I'm afraid has talent lining up to join them. Just like Microsoft had talent lining up to join them in the early 90's.
Not to say that Microsoft stock will not go up (it very well might), but I wouldn't judge a stock based on its free cash. Its whats under the hood of the company (the people) that will ultimately make or break a company. - quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Stock tips on Digg?
1) Lame
2) Dangerous
3) Hahahahahhahahahahha - RudyJ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hm, waiting for the bubble to go 'pop!'
- clevershark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google sells nothing... except advertising space (and a lot of it), search technology to companies, the Google appliance, etc.
But don't let reality stand in the way of your patting yourself on the back for not having been able to buy any of the stock at IPO time. - cma3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is a product of market hype. Whether you agree with the value or not. I am a fan of Google, I hope their stock hits 700. But I am not a fan of market hype.
no digg. - rswarsaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0unlikely
- webitor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As far as I know the current price is the right price.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google is way overvalued.
Apple has also been doing very recently.
I took a gamble buying their stocks before the unveiling of the nano and have been very happy since. Hopefully, they meet their iPod sale goals and don't screw up with the intel transition... - apersaud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google is not overvalued. It has twice the growth rate as YHOO and MSFT, so it deserves a higher multiple. Remember, its not the price of the stock, but the price-to-earnings ratio.
Berkshire is way above 500, does that mean Berkshire is overvalued? It will take people years before they realize that this is not the bubble anymore, Google has REAL earnings! - AxsDeny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can afford to buy 10 shares! Not viable for the small investor. Anything less than 100 shares is just a hassle.
- PacoDG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I own exactly one share of Google and a "I'm Feeling Lucky" license plate frame. So far I have made $130 minus 15 that goes to E*Trade. I believe Google still has a while to go before it bursts (which WILL happen, just not anytime soon)
- 70ny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0One of the reasons that it is so high is, because they have NEVER SPLIT the stock. MSFT, AAPL, etc have split several times.
- jrsims, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0C'mon ride that train and ride it.
- joelp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I like the prospect of google stock because everytime I come to digg I read something on the front page about what their next big innovation is.
$400 is an investment NOT in what google is today, but what google will be tomorrow. We have all heard the rumors of "free wi-fi" access for everyone everywhere... The company has BIG goals... and the backing to achieve said goals. Do you realize the kind of money they will be racking in then?
I also think there is something to their 80/20 work environment. (80% of the time work on google stuff - 20% of the time... work on whatever you want... [google will own it]). You know who else works like that? Virgin. How would you like to have bought Virgin stock when it was first available?
It is an investment in the future - and I'm not convinced that this is a bubble. - Mininday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I own just under .6 shares(No Lie)...I've made $80.
- aronoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0GOOG's trading at 90x earnings.
MSFT's at 23x.
MSFT has almost 11B free cashflow.
GOOG has around 830M.
GOOG owes 10.00K.
MSFT owes nothing.
Compare the key statistics
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=MSFT
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=GOOG
I'll hold my MSFT & Berkshire stock.
Warren Buffett isn't going to be buying Google stock any time soon. I don't think he plays bridge with Sergei & Larry.
I'm with you wavesmith. - CRG000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For all those people saying the stock should not be at 400 because you can't afford more than 10 shares (i can't either) maybe you should look a BRKA trading at 87,000 per share. I believe the google team uses the same model as W. Buffet, they think that splits are not in the best interest of the company.
- aronoff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this stock is SERIOUSLY overvalued... everyone thinks it a media darling... something will happen where it'll drop like a rock THEN i'll buy it for my portfolio... no point in buying in right now....
- ebenthurston, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ kamhp
Avg Vol(3m): 8,419,210
i don't think you're going to have any trouble getting executed. - apersaud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Every company will rise up and will fall -- MSFT, Walmart, General Electric, Research in Motion..etc.. Apple and Google will fall too, but it will be years before that happens - they are good companies. (I do own shares of both)
- jamelt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0too much unreliable information in one spot!
- socket, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You only need to dilute the share pool for specific reasons. Google is a GROWTH story. You're buying Google for it's growth and that's it. If you buy Google you're stupid if you just look at the TRAILING price to earnings ratio. What aronoff the trading genious up there didn't mention was Google has a Forward looking P/E of 49.04.
If you're buying MS it's for the dividend (if you even know what that is, which i doubt since most of you are ***** retards)... if you're buying Google it's for the growth. Once you think Google has done most of it's growing get out. - spadin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Berkshire Hathaway (BRKA) has gone down 1,200 just today. Don't you think people get scared when they see their one and only share go down that much? That's not the way Google should think of this.
- brlewis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Even with the forward-looking P/E of fifty ("49.04" is way too much precision when the denominator is an earnings guesstimate), this is clearly a speculative stock. Nobody really knows what it will be worth in the future, but the market right now is counting on Google being wildly successful. If it turns out to be a company with only slightly above-average growth, investors will lose.
- joelp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0^^^ Irrelevant. Its percentages.
if a $10 stock goes down $1 - it is the EXACT SAME as a $1000 going down $100.
Why? Because if I had $10,000 to invest - I would either buy 100 of the first stock or 10 of the second. Either way .. I'm down 10% on the day.
BRKA is down 1.48% today. That is very common. - rhl333, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hey guys i need your help
I am thinking about putting $10,000 or more into microsofsoft within the next two months i have a strong feeling that because now they are low it is a good time to buy but that since Vista is coming out this year and its going to seel allot in my veiw and microsoft will make alot of money the price for stocks are gonna shoot up and i feel i will make a great deal of moaney.Somone please gove me their opinons on this idea?? - maqo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you take the word of a single Wall St. analyst, I've got a few stocks to sell you.
Sorry guys, 12-month consensus estimate is still $398 for GOOG, $17 lower than where it's currently trading. - spadin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think they should split 4:1 or 5:1 it's getting to high and people get pretty nervous when a stock is too high.
- RickySan65, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0ahh.. just a matter of time till the next burst... how would the net look like without gurgle??
- hammerattack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"Warren Buffett isn't going to be buying Google stock any time soon."
Warren Buffet made his money on playing currency markets, and by investing massive fortunes in fast trades to exploit short term games. In short, he's a currency speculator that happens to do well as a day trader. He's also a keynesian. For those reasons, I'd sooner get my investing advice from a god damned majic eight ball than from him.
Incidentally, some of the moronic assertions I've seen in this thread include: "bubble", Google has only one product (adsense), and that raw buying data isn't available to the general public. - spect3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0It is just a bubble. No stock should be at the $500 mark.
It will come down. Sell now! (TM) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0@ ebenthurston
In the real world stock is sold in 100 share increments so its harder to buy 10 shares because 90 other shares have to be bought also. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0I'm so glad I have 66 shares...wish I had the money to have bought more back then.
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