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- Settra, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15These internet tubes are getting pretty lame, as well as old.
- konno, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Ted Turners long lost brother ?
- rodrigo74, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10What's Tim Warner?
- lo0ol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8And, thanks to the kind management practices at AOL, we can check out the search terms you've used too, LordSkywalker!
- LordSkywalker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8They're talking about SEARCH share. Not stock.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Do be fair, the wording is prety bad "Google Search" as opposed to, perhaps "Google's Share of Searches Slips".
Then again, I guess quality is the price you pay for submitting hundreds and hundreds of diggs at a time. - bisecke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm intrigued by the "more than two million consumers who have given comScore permission to confidentially capture their browsing and transaction behaviour, including online and offline purchasing." Spyware, anyone?
http://news.com.com/ComScore+Spyware+or+researchware/2100-1032_3-5494004.html
It's disclosed to downloaders, but it also comes as part of a bundle. The users are *really* trying to get at a program that is supposed to increase their internet surfing speed (ha!).
I vote "spyware". - BluParadox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4www.aol.com
- HexInfinity, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I am more interested in how China is searching. If Google owns there, Google owns Earth.
- BluParadox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The article says "Ask Network up 0.3 percent to 54 percent." This should be:
Ask Network up 0.3 percent to 5.4 percent." - allaboutdatiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The flags went up for me. Two million people consciously gave Comscore permission to do what they're doing? Scary stuff.
- muyuu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2In China the leader is Baidu. China is very isolated in the internet thanks to their government "smart" censorship. As of today China has not much of a say outside China when we're talking about internet businesses.
- garyh84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Read this yesterday and was/is being talked about on webmasterworld.com. And the funny thing is, the title is EXTREMELY misleading.
Not only has the number of internet users gone up even within the past month, the percent of error is far greater than the supposed 'drop' in Google share. Most surveys have a +/- of 3+ %, so Google's 'drop' is well within it. As far as we know, Google's share might have gone UP 2%. - BluParadox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Unfortunately for your point though the article talks about both the growth of the search market (30%), and specific numbers of searches for each service:
"Google sites accounted for 2.7 billion searches followed by Yahoo sites (1.8 billion), MSN-Microsoft (802 million), Time-Warner Network (366 million), and Ask Jeeves/Ask Network (338 million)." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6That Yahoo! has 29% of searches absolutely amazes me. How can anyone find the search bar with all that clutter? I can't recall the last time I've gone to Yahoo!, unless it was because a news story was linked there that someone sent me.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This just in: Users comment without reading the article!
More at 11 when they actually read! - smithco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The good old "lies, damn lies and statistics" holds true again.
- vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -0/+2AOL Search 'Powered By Google'. Which means it's basically Google.
- valona, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2search.yahoo.com
Not exactly hard to find the search box is it? - acurism, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Big deal, one month decline means nothing.
Google is still the best at what they do...Search. - mobilehavoc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is probably due to the fact that everytime you install any Yahoo product, unless you're a hawk at unchecking checkboxes during installation, it will a) install the POS Yahoo Toolbar and b) make Yahoo! your homepage, search,etc.
I've had to clean this crap of my parent's computer more than once when all they wanted was Yahoo Messenger.
My guess is that the few people left in this world that don't use Google do so because they just don't know any better. - ajskhan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe this is why this story happened...
http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Google_CEO_wants_74_billion_TV_ad_market_Digital_Micro_Markets_ZDNet
lol - cyberdash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When I first read this, I thought the same as the many above. It would be much better if the title's wording changed.
- valona, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yes, the fact that you visited the Yahoo website to view non-search related content, caused Yahoo's share of the search market to increase. It makes perfect sense.
- christiancadeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think it is premature to make that assesment. One month does not make a trend.
- smithco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2True, the article contains both bit of information. But the comments about the market growth, which are near the end of the article, well after most people have stopped reading, are quite detached from the market share comments, which are in the first paragraph and the attention-grabbing headline.
Compare these headlines:
"Google Lost x% of Its Market Share"
and
"Google Searches Increased y%"
Both show bias as to what the spin of the article is and both are generally useless for understanding the reality of the search market.
Though I will concede that this is far more the fault of the article's author then those who gathered the data. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When I read this title I was under the impression that maybe my Google personalized search history had been leaked...
- fltsdsurf, on 03/20/2008, -0/+1I'm sure Yahoo loooooooves articles like that on their site.
- plusque, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1GoogAOLe owns a percentage of Tim's company anyhow
- lindholm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0buddy, that's because the search engines have much better tools available -- namely, whether or not users choose to click on links presented -- this can be collected either by instrumenting a fraction of search results (similar to the way fark tracks hits) or through a toolbar.
- xedd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2And in other news... Statistical results can be massaged to say just about anything.
"George Bush is extremely popular with felines on LSD! Details at 11!" - tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1And it's quite possible, LordSkywalker, that their stock slipped right along with their market share. Slight though it may have been (and probably within the survey's margin of error).
- mobilehavoc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Good for them - they've been promoting pretty heavily through Ads, sponsoring shows (i.e. NBC Treasure Hunters or whatever). Would have suck for them to spend all that money on advertising (which Google never does!) and not gain any market share.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Google slowly sucking :P
- concertina, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1F marketing. Last thing we want is for companies to be rewarded for manipulating us and polluting our mindspace with ads.
- srini91, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Also, when's the last time you clicked into the search bar? Most times, the keyboard focuses into the search text field. There's no need to "find" the search bar at all.
I actually like glancing at the Yahoo news stories as I'm typing in my search - just another form of multi-tasking. - valona, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1On the other hand, maybe it is because the once unbelievably brilliant Google search is becoming increasingly inaccurate. More and more of the front-page results are becoming sullied with banner farms, blog spam, and automated content generators. And the increasing size of the index seems to have lead to outdated content. It’s still the search engine to beat, but other providers are producing new and innovative ways of finding quality content, sites like http://vivisimo.com , http://del.icio.us/ and so forth.
- faddat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1STARS MAN STARS!!!!
The first search engine that allows users to rate results relevance using a 5-star system similar to Amazon's rating system and bases future results (at least partially) off of those stars will win out. The algorithm would have to connect the stars and the search itself, not just the stars for a given site. For example, slashdot would get high stars for "nerd news" or "linux" but low stars for "fuzzy goats".
This is just my $.02. I've been thinking this for YEARS, though, and I am shocked that no one has implemented such a simple but revolutionary innovation. - harris2004, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3fall of Google????
i remember when things were straight up for Microsoft,,top Market shares,,high priced stocks..and now they have come down alot..mybe google reached its peaked level and going for recession.. - sirmo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I use Google for my searches but personally I have visited Yahoo more than ever this year due to the fact that they were covering 2006 FIFA World Cup. Wonder if this somehow could have skewed the numbers?
- CausticNoise, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3This just in: Stocks rise and fall.
- smithco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2The problem with such statements about market share percentages is that they are made without reference to the change in the market size. If Google picked up 10 000 new customers while Yahoo! picked up 15 000 new customers, Google's share of the total has decreased. I could likewise point out that Jaguar and Ferrari represent a horribly small share of the auto market.
Any analyst who talks about market share and not actual number of customers or profit made (this is not the same as revenue) is blowing smoke. - kieranbenton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Google are really going to have to start watching themselves - either they're going to surprise us all and roll out a new "pagerank" which solves some of the problems with their search at the moment or they will grow increasingly stagnant.
- jwartak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1AOL
- unoriginal, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0When did Time Warner buy a search engine? What is the URL for thier search?
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4I noticed this earlier, sadly the stock is now only valued around $380... I feel for them...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=goog - Settra, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Stupid edit time. I meant Internet tube jokes.
- chloe112233, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Great!
- LordSkywalker, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4My internets are real easy. I just type in the AOL Keyword, and it loads through the tubes to me.
- badpit, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0they admit to use spyware ?
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