43 Comments
- geekchic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24"I haven't seen an ad on the web in years!"
Congratulations - and when all the websites you visit go bust from a lack of income, you'll not see a website for years either. - Jahz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19That's not really true though, is it. The ads sold on your site are bid on in Dollar amounts, not British Pounds. The advertisers pay Google in US Dollars as well.
If Google switched to using the British Pound as its currency, your profits would remain constant as US advertisers would simply bid half as much (since the Pound worth 2 dollars). So if I were willing to pay you 6 Dollars per clickthrough to my store, I would also only be willing to pay 3 Pounds. Why? Because advertisers are not dumb.... they know how to use currency converters too. - str3ama, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23yea but they earn double that just screwing over publishers with low cpc earning rates, and advertisers by not refunding money from click fraud cases. As well they're buying out all the competitors (seems very Microsoftish)
- checksumz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Advertisers and investors.
- plbland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I bet you have. If not... check out my cool site: www.*****.tv
- nonanet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Advertisers Pay Over $1.35 Billion to Google!"
- mjeppsen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+640 million hits and you only have a paltry $225 in Adsense revenue to show for it? It would be worth investing $$$ in some help in optimizing your ad positions. Adsense even has advisors that can assist, and with that many hits they would surely be interested in helping. Google isn't the one screwing you...it sounds largely self-inflicted.
- spling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6They -are- still a business.
- jake8689, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4look over here -------------------------------------> -------------------------------->
found one for ya - anamanaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I wonder how much of that is to parked domains.
- popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And I'm also curious why I'm being dugg down for asking which sites?
(Surely its not obedience to Google's gag order... please tell me we're not that far gone...) - zoom1928, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2haplo, at Google's choice they decide to pay per impression or per click. They pay per click for my sites. If they paid me per impression, I would be making enough money to quit my job. I've already fought them over this issue many times.
Yesterday on a slow day (weekends are my heaviest traffic) my AdSense for Content had just over 50k impressions with 1 click with $0.43 earnings. My AdSense for Search had 42 queries with 9 clicks and $0.35 earnings. I made $0.79 for the day.
Google Ads are a horrible way to try to make money. In 1998-1999 when I had time to directly contract with companies that were related to the site I made 10x as much money as with Google. - Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not only that, since Google doesn’t pay AdSense affiliates until they are at least $100 in credit, it has managed to build up $448m that it hasn't paid out to affiliates. There is a nicely researched and written piece about the issue here:
http://lembingley.itweek.co.uk/2007/04/google_and_your.html - r00tus3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I collected a cooooooool $116 of that :D
- popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And why is the parent being dugg down? LOL.
If independent publishers can make money with their own hard work and creativity, we should all (*ALL*) be
a) Supporting that
b) Educating ourselves - mrfoos2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Screwing over publishers?
How about the small businesses who sign up for advertising for a few months, drop a couple of $$$$'s on fraudulent clicks, and then go away. It's like how AOL started. They were losing most customers but were signing up new (naive) ones so fast it didn't matter. By the time we get some protection laws on the books, Google will own so much money it won't matter. Do no evil? They're in a position it would be impossible not to. - brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Adsense is jut a giant steaming pile of clickfraud.
I feel bad for AdWords customers who arent smart enough to track their conversion rate to see that. - sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Nigerian 419 scams
- themoose, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Except I got fined a couple of months earnings for something I didn't do/something I couldn't prevent/something they could prevent/something they never specifically told me what.
- fuzzmeister, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Do you really want 50% of the web to be behind a paywall? No, I don't either.
- uidzero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Buying out one's competitor is just could business sense in many cases. In many cases, it costs FAR more to invest in ways to compete then to just outright buy a company. Whether it be for competitive reasons or (in most cases) to improve the quality of your own product or service for a (comparatively) lower cost.
- Haplo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yup, I just checked: 500,000 ad impressions does about 500 USD on my site. How you manage to make only $225 with 160,000,000 ad impressions is beyond me. I mean 320x more impressions and not even 50% of what I have made this month. Only thing I can think of to make this picture right is that you mixed up millions with thousands and you have actually 160,000 ad impressions. In that case 225 USD is not bad.
- nonanet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I didn't say they screw publishers. I just wanted to put in perspective that Google is earning a lot of money with that service, and the more they pay out, the more they earn...
- b3mus3d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I run a website that uses google ads currently. Being as some people seem to be of the opinion that it screws publishers over, can anyone suggest a better paying alternative?
- nonanet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1sounds like room for improvement to me, too. If i would estimate the Adsense income for 40 million page views, i'd add a few zero's to those $225. Two at least, maybe three.
- marcamillion, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Stop bitching. A year ago you wouldn't be able to make any money with your lame-o blog. Obviously any lucrative system that is setup will have people that game it, and Google is doing what they can to curb it. The point is, at least you make some money. Stop whining and appreciate the fact that MS isn't in their shoes, because you would be making MUCH less if MS was in Google's shoes.
digg me down...w/e. - Haplo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3You're doing something horrible wrong. I have 14,000 visitors a day ( http://johnbokma.com ) and I make well over 700 USD/month.
Remember that a hit is just the fetching of the page or any object used on that page, your favicon, your stylesheet, etc. 40 million hits can in reality mean just 1 million visitors...
Next, 40 million, 4 ads/page = ...
"we've done 160 million ad impressions"
No, it doesn't mean that unless you see exactly that figure in your Google Adsense overview. I have 14,000 visitors yet only about 50% of those are counted as impressions (page wise). A lot of "visitors" are bots doing referer spam, comment spam, or because they are badly written garbage just wasting traffic. Furthermore people have ads disabled, no idea how many. Next Google shaves off a lot of impressions (my guess) because to their software they look like fraud. - popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3What sites? (Very curious)
- zoom1928, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2> earn double that just
True, but that is a small drop in the bucket compared to how much the advertises pay in the first place.
As an example, we have pages with 4 Google text ads at the top of each page. With our almost 40 million hits since we added Google ads, that means we've done 160 million ad impressions for Google. For that work, Google has given us around $225. That means Google has paid $0.00000140625 per ad impression. How many orders of magnitude more do the advertisers pay Google? Screwing the people that show ads is their real money maker. - geekchic, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Being based in the UK - but paid by Google in dollars (which they convert to Sterling) is hurting badly thanks to the very weak dollar at the moment. I wonder how many other website owners are "suffering" from the fact that many advertising companies are still trading in US Dollars.
- bedakdeo, on 08/03/2008, -0/+0hi;
yupz... it's make a sense....
you can get a profit to in adsense earning.....
but with a little money of course.....
http://www.best-adsense.com/
you can blast your adsense earning at now.... - bugtussle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"can anyone suggest a better paying alternative?"
Well? Anyone? - ivsprasad, on 01/02/2008, -0/+0Thanks to google which kindled a new hope for me that I can earn some money legally by legal way and am proud to be here near adsense.
- agentmax, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Talking about google adsense..check out this site www.sharogle.com that lets you share adsense revenues.
- allcdnboy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3they haven't been that kind to me, but my bro is making $20 G / month and a client is closing in on $50 G / month
- fudlilman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1damnit why didnt i invest in a website ...sucks being broke :(
- specialK16, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0I hear ya...
- rolf, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Server not found
Firefox can't find the server at www.*****.tv. - Frost9999, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Ads were what people used in 2001... now people use web-logs (blog for short - clever huh?) instead, I'm sure you've seen one or two around.
- maklershed, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Where does Google get all this funding?
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/12/2007, -18/+1Ads? What are those? I haven't seen an ad on the web in years!
- JMowery, on 10/12/2007, -19/+0Illegal activity in the stock market of course. Any big shot at a company can make guaranteed millions in the market from illegal trading. It's sad but there are so many corrupt guys on Wall St. The SEC just doesn't care
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