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- simpleid, on 10/12/2007, -5/+61The "right" thing would have been to delete Myspace, ever consider -that-?
- neoform, on 10/12/2007, -1/+43GoDaddy has THE worst policies around.
They suspended one of my domains after a SINGLE complaint (which turned out to be mistake since the person who made the complaint named my domain by mistake). They then said I'd have to pay GoDaddy $200 to "clean up the mess" that i supposedly made. GoDaddy is terrible.
Don't use them. - Arch4ngel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+37Since when does hosting company bend in front of a complaint?
It wasn't even a legal action! - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26Wow. I'll keep an eye on this, because if this is how GoDaddy treating paying customers, I no longer want to be part of their customer base.
Anybody got any good recommendations for registrars and hosting services? Preferably ones that won't knuckle under in 52 seconds flat? - cld2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28@broomett
In no way shape or form is this the "right thing." GoDaddy should be neutral to these types of incidents, they are just the registrar. This should be taken up with the ISP if anyone, not the person handing out domains. If digg hosts something someone doesn't like does that give godaddy or who ever the digg.com domain is registered with the right to just "delete" the domain name from existence? I believe ICANN has already commented about this saying something to the effect of "its not there job to police what people do with there domain names".
Thankfully there are company's like Tucows that operate out of Canada and don't feel any need to pull the plug on a site someone else finds offensive. - slackor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25A lot of people seem to be confusing hosting with a domain registrar. GoDaddy was NOT hosting the site, they are the registrar.... this is why this whole situation is ridiculous. The GoDaddy TOS also includes "morally questionable" material as something that can get your domain suspended... will porn sites be next?
It's also ironic that GoDaddy CEO, Bob Parsons, slams CBS in his blog for being "puritanical" and censoring content since they denied his Superbowl ads. Here he is playing internet police. Leave content up to the web host and law to deal with.
I will be moving all of my domains to another registrar. This is really scary stuff. Would Digg.com (who uses GoDaddy) get suspended if someone posted Myspace passwords in the comments and Kevin missed the 1 hour window they give to take them down? - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23>>>"This should not even be an issue."
You're absolutely right on that particular point. Too bad you're missing the bigger picture here.
Your registrar has absolutely no right to say anything about what's on your domain. In fact, GoDaddy's TOS very clearly violates ICANN procedures and policies.
Somebody should get GoDaddy's registrar status revoked over this, unless they change their policies and TOS real freakin' quick. - ADVIZR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Good-bye, GoDaddy.
This is just one of the reasons I'm transferring all of my domains to another registrar. Everyone who still blindly supports them needs to realize that there's really no reason to; there are much safer registrars and ones with lower fees for private registrations.
The main reason: private registration fees are absurd! After the initial free period you may get, when it comes time to renew it's a whopping $8.99 added to every domain just for this service which costs them next to nothing, added to the price of the domain $8.95 (.com). So that becomes $17.94 for one single domain. Most people aren't aware of this because they choose to auto-renew. GoDaddy relies on this complacency and the fact that it's an absolute hassle to transfer away.
GoDaddy is all about ugly upselling tactics, extortion by suspending domains and not reactivating them till huge fees are paid, nickel and diming, and charging high fees once you're in. I urge everyone to no longer support them. Give someone else a chance for a change. Any charm they had is dying, and deservedly so.
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How to Transfer Away from GoDaddy for Domains w/ Private Registrations.
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This will probably help a lot of people, since it's not shown on GoDaddy's site.
1. You must first cancel the private registration. They don't allow this to be done from your GoDaddy account (suprise, surprise). You must login to DomainsByProxy.com. How to login: you use a separate account username that they gave you in a separate email when you originally bought the name. So search for that original email (it'll have the keyword of the domainname in it). The username a bunch of numbers. Now, the password is just the password you normally use for GoDaddy (I'm not sure if it changes if you change your GoDaddy account).
2. Log into DomainsbyProxy.com, check the domain, cancel/confirm. Be very careful that you aren't in the GoDaddy.com account doing any of this. They have a cancel button there too but that actually cancels the *entire* domain registration, which means you literally lose the name. Log out.
3. Log into godaddy.com to your domains. Confirm that the name isn't private anymore (it won't have the little spy/question mark icon to the right).
4. The registrar you transfer to will require an EPP Code, most likely. This is a safety code to further ensure you have the right to transfer. GoDaddy calls this the Authorization Code. To get this, go into godaddy.com to your domains. Click into the domain. In the details overview, where it says Authorization Code, click "Send by Email". You're taken to a confirmation. Click OK and it will then be sent to your account's email.
5. With the private registration removed and the EPP code ("Authorization Code"), you can now go do a transfer at another registrar. I'll assume you can handle that from there. That process then usually involves involves getting an email from the underlying registrar (Namecheap uses Enom, for instance) with a link you must access to confirm/OK it. GoDaddy will also send an email, only you don't have to respond to that; their link leads to a transfer cancellation procedure.
Enjoy no long being subject to GoDaddy's unscrupulous Terms of Service to which you once agreed in the contract. - neoform, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16As an ICANN registrar they don't have the right to suspend domains like that, it's against the very clear rules set forth by ICANN.
- slipsec, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16So, was godaddy HOSTING the site or just the registrar? The article seems to interchange the two concepts.
- Yoshi39, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16$5 says this wont get mentioned on diggnation since one of their sponsors are, you guessed it, GoDaddy
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yahdonknowrayray_1@msn.com:MONEY100 - dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"The site owner was also in the wrong for hosting other people's passwords, which he obtained fraudulently."
The site's owner didn't put the list of passwords up, it was a mailing list - It's like blaming Digg's owners for this comment..
- Ben - ericrous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I think now might be a good time to cancel my GoDaddy account. I only went with them because of the Diggnation discount (what are the odds Kevin and Alex will cover THIS story on the show?). But, after this mess, I think I'll go host my site somewhere where they actually require a court order (or at least SOME legal action) to completely obliterate my site.
-Eric - jasper976, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12it was an archive of a mailing list post, there are likely hundreds of other sites that have archived the same post
- cld2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11It seems like from the tone of the article they were only the registrar.
"As a result of this experience, he said in an e-mail announcement, "I'm in the market for a new registrar. One who doesn't immediately bend over for any large corporation who asks." - zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The point of the story is.
Godaddy has in the past set restriction on what you can do with "Your Site" if its
registered using godaddy.
That's the number one reason I would never us them as where I would host my domain name.
It's one thing to take down your site. If you were hosing your site web pages with them.
It's completely another if your just using them as the domain name register.
godaddy suck.
Don't even think of registering a p2p site or a torrent tracker with them.
If they don't want to host the domain name fine but they have also in the past refused to release
a domain name back to the owner of that domain. If he wanted to move it to a different provider.
If it was a domain name they decided to pull from there dns.
Don't register your name with godaddy. its cheap for a reason.
- sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9A couple of people have mentioned that it's not the registrar's place to do this and I agree. The issue here isnt' so much that the site was taken down, the issue is that it was the registrar that did it. The registrar's place in the world is to provide a route to your ISP, not to police what is presented on which site, that's up to the ISP. It's kind of like if the post office decided to not route any mail for Best Buy because Circuit City had a complaint about them. It's not up to the post office to decide whether your mail gets routed, it's up to the sender and receiver.
- rpdillon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8> The site owner was also in the wrong for hosting other people's passwords, which he obtained fraudulently.
No, he wasn't. The list is in the open - he merely hosts security related mailing lists (white hat), and the list of names appeared on the mailing lists he hosted. I mean, for god sakes, do you know who Fyodor even is? He owns insecure.org - he wrote nmap, THE network security scanner, Heck, when Trinity had to hack the power plant in Reloaded, she used nmap. This dude isn't some fly-by-night black hat, he is a dedicated security professional.
Not to tangle issues, but this is like DRM - it prevents honest people from hosting meaningful content and does nothing to prevent the spread of the information that they are so concerned about. See below for comments containing the addresses and passwords.
The only party that should take action is myspace.com - they should suspend those accounts, send the users email, and force them to change their passwords. Once the list is out, the list is out. - mattottam, on 09/29/2009, -0/+8It's a question of the means justifying the end and in this case they don't. It's not GoDaddy's job to police content (IMO anyway). The content resides on a host, and it's the host's responsibility to take care of this. If they won't, then that's why there's a justice system with laws, law enforcement, and all that stuff.
I don't think that many here think posting a list of usernames and passwords is all that righteous, it's just that what GoDaddy has done sets an ugly precedent. What's to stop them from pulling the plug on other customers, for other reasons? - slipsec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7http://seclists.org/nmap-hackers/2007/0000.html -- Fyodor's response.
This is obscene, there is no way a registrar should EVER have this right. It would make slightly more sense if action was taken by the ISP, or a hosting company if one was even used. Anyone know the nitty-gritty rights to a domain name are? I own a domain, but It can be "broken" by the registrar even though they don't "own" it. If this were an IP address that is not "owned" by a client but only "assigned" or "delegated", there is a bit more control reserved by the provider. - Pilgrim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Namecheap.com
Whatever you do, do not use registerfly. - SniperX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This is actually very odd timing.
2 days ago I was charged $9.95 to "the card I have on file", with no warning from GoDaddy because they received a complaint that my whois information was incorrect, which it in fact was not.
In their defense after an angry email they returned my call and subsequently refunded my money. But their lack of looking into complaints is astounding. - Stwo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@ slackor lets see....
myspace login: baskr457@aim.com
password: 123dray
ok go daddy.... shutdown digg
(btw... thats not MY myspace... it's some kid that works for me...LOL) I asked him his name and password and he easily complied! - Grumps, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Time for suing. All American favorite pass time.
DISCLAIMER: Am American. - Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I have personally had difficulties with GoDaddy that resulted in my losing about $200.00 worth of domains that I purchased (and have receipts for). I would not recommend GoDaddy for anything unless you were looking for a particularly large toilet to flush your money down.
- wiremonkeymommy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10GoDaddy's TOS gives them the *right* to do what they did, however, this isn't the first time they've come off as heavy handed and difficult to deal with, their actions should make any registrant nervous.
/clearly, I'm NOT siding with the website owner/operator - atozand1to10, on 10/12/2007, -1/+756000 myspace usernames & passwords
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/fulldisclosure/2007-01/att-0282/myspace1.txt.bz2
now what!
here's Fyodor's mail
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Hi everyone,
Many of you reported that our SecLists.Org security mailing list
archive was down most of yesterday (Wed), and all you really need to
know is that we're back up and running! But I'm going into rant mode
anyway in case you care for the details.
I woke up yesterday morning to find a voice message from my domain
registrar (GoDaddy) saying they were suspending the domain
SecLists.org. One minute later I received an email saying that
SecLists.org has "been suspended for violation of the GoDaddy.com
Abuse Policy". And also "if the domain name(s) listed above are
private, your Domains By Proxy(R) account has also been suspended."
WTF??! Neither the email nor voicemail gave a phone number to reach
them at, nor did they feel it was worth the effort to explain what the
supposed violation was. They changed my domain nameserver to
"NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.SPAM-AND-ABUSE.COM". Cute, eh?
I called GoDaddy several times, and all three support people I spoke
with (Craig, Ricky, then Wael) said that the abuse department doesn't
take calls. They said I had email abuse@godaddy.com (which I had
already done 3 times) and that I could then expect a response "within
1 or two business days". Given that tens of thousands of people use
SecLists.Org every day, I didn't take that well. When they realized I
was going to just keep calling until they did something, they finally
persuaded the abuse department to explain why they cut me off:
Myspace.Com asked them to.
Apparently Myspace is still reeling from all the news reports more
than a week ago about a list of 56,000 myspace usernames+passwords
making the rounds. It was all over the news, and reminded people of a
completely different list of 34,000 MySpace passwords which was
floating around last year. MySpace users fall for a LOT of phishing
scams. They are basically the new AOL. Anyway, everyone has this
latest password list now, and it was even posted (several times) to
the thousands of members of the fulldisclosure mailing list more than
a week ago. So it was archived by all the sites which archive
full-disclosure, including SecLists.Org.
Instead of simply writing me (or abuse@seclists.org) asking to have
the password list removed, MySpace decided to contact (only) GoDaddy
and try to have the whole site of 250,000 pages removed because they
don't like one of them. And GoDaddy cowardly and lazily decided to
simply shut down the site rather than actually investigating or giving
me a chance to contest or comply with the complaint. Needless to say,
I'm in the market for a new registrar. One who doesn't immediately
bend over for any large corporation who asks. One who considers it
their job just to refer people to the SecLists.Org nameserver at
205.217.153.50, not to police the content of the services hosted at
the domains. The GoDaddy ToS forbids hosting what they call "morally
objectionable activities".
It is way too late for MySpace to put the cat back in the bag anyway.
The bad guys already have the file, and anyone else who wants it need
only Google for "myspace1.txt.bz2" or "duckqueen1". Is MySpace going
to try and shut down Google next?
For some reason, this is only one of a spate of bogus Seclists removal
requests. I do remove material that is clearly illegal or
inappropriate for SecLists.org (like the bonehead who keeps posting
furry porn to fulldisclosure). But one company sent a legal threat
demanding[1] that I remove a 7-year old Bugtraq posting which was a
complaint about previous bogus legal threats they had sent. Another
guy[2] last week sent a complaint to my ISP saying that an image was
child porn and declaring that he would notify the FBI. When asked why
he thought the picture was of a child, he tried a different tack:
sending a DMCA complaint declaring under penalty of perjury that he is
the copyright holder of the photo! Michael Crook told me on the phone
that he sent the DMCA request, but when I forwarded the info to the
EFF (who is already suing this guy for sending other bogus DMCA
complaints), he changed his mind and wrote that "after further review,
I can find no record" or mailing the complaint.
Most of the censorship attempts are for the full-disclosure list. It
would be easiest just to cease archiving that list, but I do think it
serves an important purpose in keeping the industry honest. And many
good postings do make it through if you can filter out all the junk.
So I'm keeping it, no matter how "morally objectionable" GoDaddy and
MySpace may think it to be!
In much happier Nmap news, I'm pleased to report that the Nmap project
now has a public SVN server so you can always check out the latest
version. Due to a bug in SVN, we use a username as "guest" with no
password rather than anonymous. So check it out with the command:
svn co --username guest --password "" svn://svn.insecure.org/nmap
Then do the normal:
./configure
make
And install it or set NMAPDIR to "." to run in place. Among other
goodies, this release includes the Nmap scripting language[3].
If you want to follow Nmap development on a check-in by check-in
basis, there is a new nmap-svn mailing list[4] for that. But be
prepared for some high traffic as you'll get every patch!
2007 will be a good year for Nmap!
Cheers,
Fyodor
[1] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2006/q4/0302.html
[2] http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2007/q1/0067.html
[3] http://insecure.org/nmap/nse/
[4] http://cgi.insecure.org/mailman/listinfo/nmap-svn - damndj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8But they have big breasted women in their commercials!
- danth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Damn straight I'm nervous. Time to find another registrar.
- 3Den, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Can't agree.
We need registrars to remain impartial and neutral, and NOT get involved in this kind of thing.
The responsibility to cut the service should rest with the ISP, but absolutely NOT the registrar. - streaky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yeah the godaddy spam is really starting to f**k me off, think this could be the straw that broke the camels back though.
Lets face it MySpace users are dumber than the average dung beetle - the clue is that they signed up in the first place - getting their user info is doing them a favour, hopefully doing stuff and getting them banned or whatever ;)
Hardly the point though - GoDaddy can't play judge / jury / executioner. And things like DMCA have nothing to do with GD if you're just hosting DNS with them. If Myspace's issue was going anywhere odds are they'd take it up with the host - suspicion would be that they did and the host laughed off their request.
This isn't al capone and godaddy's dns servers aint the tax system. Grow the hell up and give a ***** about your customers before you loose them all.
How can any customer of Godaddy's (including myself - i have about 10 domains with them) feel safe in the knowledge that godaddy wont just pull the plug at anybodies request? When you talk about PR *****, this has got to be high on the list.
Plus who the hell are godaddy to decide what's acceptable and what isn't anyways? - eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12GoDaddy was definitely in the wrong here for taking down the site.
The site owner was also in the wrong for hosting other people's passwords, which he obtained fraudulently.
Since this had to happen to someone to highlight the problems with GoDaddy, I'm glad it happened to him. - CharlieMingus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5As someone with firsthand experience of Godaddy shutting down a website with no warning. I can't describe how frustrating it is to receive an email from your hosting site claiming you've violated copyright law and that your site has been shutdown. Then, after you finally get access back to your server and find no copyrighted material and Godaddy's response is "If the material is not there, we consider the matter closed" Closed until Godaddy knee-jerks and makes another mistake. These guys are not making the Internet a safer place. They've simply decided it's safer to shut-down first and ask questions later. "You were running a legitimate eommerce site? Sorry about that. Case closed?" They will not succeed if they continue to treat their customers with this utter lack of respect.
- isosceles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I question GoDaddy on some things. I think they filter/block emails just like Hotmail was reported of blocking Gmail invites. Oddly enough, one of GoDaddy's biggest ad campaigns is with PodShow. I signed up for a PodShow music listener account and my login info was blocked by GoDaddy's paid email service. I emailed to ask about it .... GoDaddy says they do whatever they can to prevent spam but wouldn't answer my question about blocking specific emails. I also emailed PodShow and Adam Curry regarding the issue since he spent several Daily Source Codes talking about Hotmail and others doing a "pay for email throughput" deal with certain web sites. I never got a response.
Until then I was a big fan of GoDaddy. Lately, I haven't been quite sure.
Has anyone used Yahoo!'s domain registrar service? - rickpelletier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wow, sounds like you abused his trust of you pretty easily... did you TELL him you were going to post it on the internet?
- DuckFOO, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I absolutely LOVE big breasted women, but I will be leaving GoDaddy because of this. I will probably move my domains to Gandi, unless one of my fellows Diggers can give me a different suggestion.
And speaking of Registrars, is there a site anywhere the compares them? Except from personal recommendations, there seems to be no way to know how they compare. - whysyn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4OMGWTFBBQ?!?!?
Looks like I have about 20 domains to find a new home for... - geocar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@rasterbator
You're confused: Clicking here to agree to these terms doesn't make them legally binding. A contract has to involve a "meeting of the minds" in order for it to be binding: If you don't read it, then you certainly don't understand what it means, so therefore it isn't binding.
Unfortunately this often means falling back on so-called default scenarios. In comcast's case, you're trespassing unless they say otherwise, but in Godaddy's case, the goods and services have already been paid for, and because they seem willing to "take back what they can" even after things have been paid for- and even without a refund, makes them criminals. - OhJay, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Dreamhost isn't (first and foremost) a registrar.
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4So what are the other registrars people like and recommend? I have all my domains on GoDaddy except for one experimental one on 1&1.
- TheUberDork, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4indeed, it is Ironic.
- MikeyMoose, on 01/30/2009, -0/+3I'm switching from GoDaddy...
- Stwo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I hope someone didnt hijack his myspace.... imagine the guilt... he has no idea what i asked him for his name and password for
- DrewClayton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4there are a lot of doubles, even triples, in that list.
- slackor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Since when has taking down a single domain ever stopped the spread of information on the internet and "solved the problem"? Googling the Myspace password file(you can find a link in the article, I won't post it here) yields 1000s of results within the last few days that have copied it to their servers.
Let's assume that copying doesn't exist. The answer to your questions are a) the web host and b) a registrar has yet to be sued. - dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"GoDaddy's Jones said that "we're not knee-jerk--we try to be responsible about verifying complaints."
"...only 52 seconds elapsed from an initial voice mail notification to the time the domain was marked as 'suspended.' "
I think that's the very definition of knee-jerk! - fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3As far as registrar's go steer clear of Godaddy.
This isn't the first time this has happened. In fact it's the 3rd documented time.
The last time? They shut down the primary domain from a datecenter!
Steer clear.
Try namecheap.com
http://hostjury.com/blog/5/godaddy-suspends-domain-by-request - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Stuff and nonsense. The blame lies with the site owner, and usually people complain to the hosting provider, not the registrar.
The registrar doesn't provide enough services to be held liable. They don't own the hardware serving the information. They don't have any form of control over the information. All they really do is have the name of the site in their database. The freakin' *name*. That's it. Under no legal theory would they be liable for content, because they never touch the content. - wiremonkeymommy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@neoform - I bet you're completely right, however, that doesn't seem to scare Chief Counsel at GoDaddy.
So, is this a case of being so right you're wrong? I mean... your site is down... ICANN's a bureaucracy, they're not coming to the rescue anytime soon. -
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