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- ThreeDee912, on 10/10/2007, -3/+43Hm... Does anybody think this is related to Apple wanting YouTube to convert everything to H.264, and having no Flash support on the iPhone?
- jeffeb3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22said the devil
- scottschiller, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21Developers and engineers will appreciate the technical info shared by this guy (who works on the player, I guess.) Much more informational than the general PR announcement stuff.
- firefusion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16http://digg.com/software/Adobe_Launches_Moviestar_Version_of_Flash_Player_HD_Television_Quality
- mingistech, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17Adobe to YouTube.... "Please keep using our player when you make the full switch to H.264"
The switch to H.264 is something YouTube has in the works for many reasons beside the obvious pressure from Apple.
Just the bandwidth cost saving per year will be worth the switch. - myfanwy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16is a linux client that supports this, too much to hope for?
- sparkalex, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17I keep reading comments like "Adobe had ruined Flash". As a full time Flash Engineer, I don't understand where you're coming from.
Since Adobe took over Macromedia, I have seen the arrival of Flash 9, ActionScript 3, AIR/Apollo and the Flex framework. All awesome!! - JonForTheWin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Hopefully they'll get their ***** together get with the ***** century and release a 64-bit binary too. >_>
- Spr0k3t, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I'd settle for a 64bit client without these upgrades.
- questionable, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10No, because iPhone doesn't use Flash.
- cgomez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Yes! This new version now doesn't take up all the processing power on my MacBook Pro when watching larger Flash video files; hurrah.
- dimplemonkey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7So where can I go to properly beta test their H.264 videos? Any streams on YouTube, perhaps?
- aegis9975, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7FTA:
"An AAC decoder supporting AAC Main, AAC LC and SBR (also known as HE-AAC). The corresponding ISO specification is ISO 14496-3." - VarianX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7...and maybe one for the blackest of the black sheep -- those running linux on PowerPCs
- VarianX, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I don't think it was "ruined" -- far from it -- but imagine what SWF would be if it were open.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8sorry for the comment abuse, but when are we gonna get 64bit linux support for flash? Shouldn't that be more of a priority?
- joe90210, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7"I am not in a position able to explain to you why we will not allow 3rd party streaming servers to stream H.264 video or AAC audio into the Flash Player. What I can tell you is that we do not allow this without proper licensing. Refer to Adobe's friendly Flash Media Server sales staff for more information."
boo-*****-urns!! - JonForTheWin, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10and hitler
- wisam, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Actually, this is very good news. You have to check NhaNc3 releases to see for yourself the high quality and small size that H264 videos have. An average full featured movie is 450 MB in size with even higher quality and resolution than that of XviD releases . The only thing that H264 lack is popularity and wide acceptance. Most people don't have the proper codecs installed and most hardware players don't support H264. Of course, this is not a problem to Adobe. Flash player is installed on most computers and eventually all Flash users will upgrade to the latest Flash player version that supports H264.
- gweedo767, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Well, this would still require the iPhone to support Flash to be able to play the h.264 embedded in flash videos, so no. I think this is just a very logical progression from what Flash 8 introduced (the subset of Sorensen).
- FTLJohnson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7That was my first thought. I bet anyone who reads Digg, and owns an iPhone, was thinking exactly the same thing.
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Just use nspluginwrapper. It takes the plugin and installs itself on top of the plugin to be x86-64 compatible.
- o0joshua0o, on 10/10/2007, -15/+20Contrary to what you may have heard, Flash is NOT evil.
- GOVATENT, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Will it run on x64 windows or linux? I am sick of having to run 32 bit version of browsers to use flash
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Direct Download
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer9_update/flashplayer9_install_plugin_082207.exe - flipside3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5This needs to go into the Wii Browser.
- mikemx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4if it was open it'd be a non-standard shambles of half baked half assed forks and mods. It's standardization is its main strength.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3They said that the H.264 decoding code was only 100K...and I don't imagine whatever little support code they had to write was that large, either.
- johnpowell, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5I agree.. Flash used properly is great. Using Flash for navigation on a Website should result in a *****-punch.
I hated JavaScript for ten years because of how people were using it. Now I think JavaScript is awesome. - brownr21, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3QFT. How sad is it that they don't have a 64 bit version out?
- jejones, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Well... if you follow the link from TFA to where the betas live, one of them is indeed for Linux. Yes, releasing the spec without restrictions would be the best thing for them to do, but I have to give them credit for providing a Linux beta. (Now, if they'd just do versions for non-x86 processors...)
- wisam, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Oh God, this is not good. I hope that they change their mind on that. Would the video websites have grown to such popularity if only Adobe (or license buyers) were able to stream Flash video?
- ccarlo74, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Eh eh eh, I meant to write HE in the headline but got confuse by the acronyms ;) HC is only one letter away from both HE and LC...
- stmiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Computers have gone 8bit - > 16 bit (windows 3.1) -> 32bit (Windows 95) -> 64bit (NOW) - >128bit (???)
We are in a transition phase from 32bit to 64bit right now. It's not any kind of magical world, it is just where computers are heading. Everything will be 64bit soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit - chutz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I believe he wants to be able to run it in a 64-bit browser. Addressing more RAM isn't only reason why x86_64 is better than x86, all the extra registers gives a fairly significant performance boost as well by allowing the compiler to optimize better. The boost actually more than offsets the loss due to the extra data that needs to be transferred to and from the main RAM.
- ThreeDee912, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4H.264 has a smaller file size than FLV, and a better quality. YouTube gets bandwidth savings, Users get higher-quality video.
- stmiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"Nope. That's totally false."
Did you even read my post at all?
"Modern processors are capable of running either 32-bit or 64-bit programs under the same OS instance."
Yes. It is the same as what happened during Windows 95. Win95 had a 16bit compatibility layer to execute Windows 3.1 apps. The same thing is here for 32bit apps to be able to be run in a 64bit OS: a 32bit compatibility layer. - stmiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Right. I was not attempting to 'convert' anyone or say you 'must use a 64bit browser'! I was simply stating that computers are heading to being all 64bit, and it is a natural progression we have been on for quite some time.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Very.
- cbuddha42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You mean x64 support on any OS? Even if they don't think linux is a big deal, you can't run flash in any 64 bit browser, even on windows, and I don't see anything about it in his post.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Yes, for ***** sake Adobe.
- crazybrit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Nope. I'd say it's because they're about the best codecs out there right now.
- darlyn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Does anyone actually know of somewhere that is hosting h.264??? I've installed it and wan to see it in action
- rtfx, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Chicken and egg, sir. Mobile device manufacturers agreed upon H.264 as a future standard, and hence wanted software to support it. Until now Flash was being cut out of the picture.
Now that Adobe's bought into the standard it's probably going to become truly dominant. - sirber, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Is it only AAC LC? Or they support HE and HE+PS?
- joe90210, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I'd say that it's probably because Silverlight has VC-1 HD video support, don't want Flash to be left behind
- EpicCrusadr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1do you think Opera will be mean and make us pay for the next version of the browser?
- romulasry, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The issue of a lack of 64 bit Flash came up and specifically how it was going to affect Tamarin. But now that the AVM is open source, I asked Kevin Lynch what it would mean for the Flash Player if the community added 64 bit support to the AVM. He responded "that would certainly help get to 64 bit sooner (of course there is more work in progress as well beyond the VM on this too)". It seems like Adobe is very interested in what the community will do and how that helps them support more platforms.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Stewart/index.php?p=168 - meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Uh....was that sarcasm or did you miss the whole 'almost-unofficial-merger' thing said at the January Apple conference by the Google CEO who sits on Apple's board of directors?
- lastrite, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2How about some X64 support?!
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