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- bkraft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24It's about time. Please tell me no one here tries to express sympathy for a phisher.
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24I hope he gets 101 years, the bastard.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20I'm still waiting for my larger penis to arrive.
- Wonderkind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I already have one.
I'm waiting for my $200,000.00 from Nigeria.
Any day now. Any day... - MovieSnobs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I actually testified in this case, on behalf of the ISP I work for. They didn't tell us (during the case), what the charges were, but the FBI called me late Friday night (1/12) after the verdict came in, to tell me.
I had no idea it was the first conviction of anti-spam in the US, I feel pretty good to have been a part of it.
Plus a free trip from the FBI to LA was pretty sweet too. - twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10No, moron, he was convicted on multiple counts. If he murdered 400 people he would get 25 years per. God, how dense are you?
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Dont forget to throw away the key
- molachai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6umm..while he may have been convicted under the CAN-SPAM act, doesn't this sound a lot more like he was busted for phishing?? getting info from users under the guise of emails from a legitimate company and directing the user to a false website....dugg for interesting story, but in my mind, mis-titled.
- luigi1015, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5hey homerj14,
I'm a Nigerian prince and I need you to hold $10,000,000 for me, please email me your banking information. - nottidredd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4forward your spam to SPAM@UCE.GOV
- fsnuffer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Steady on claiming all e-mail from Nigeria is a scam
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1710265 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Okay, that comment made a whole bunch of sense. :S
- dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3He goes to prison right? Now leak the fact he is spam maffia to the other inmates. I think he will get a worse deal in prison than the average child molestor.
- settle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Isn't 101 years, you know, a bit much? I hate spam as much as anyone, but it seems that a monetary fine would do more good for all of us than a ridiculous, life ruining prison term, which does us next to no good (I doubt anyone is going to stop spamming for fear of a life sentence...simply because the idea of getting a life sentence for anonymous, impersonal crime is incomprehensible).
I think some prison is good, but 101 years is insane. He should be fined into oblivion, and given, say, 10 years (seriously, 1 year would be enough for anyone to regret what they were doing), but 101 years doesn't do anyone any good. It's not like he needs to be kept of the damned streets or something. Also, it's got to be easier to convict and sentence more people if the sentence is lighter, right? So a shorter prison term plus some sort of incredible financial ruination would be more easily applied to more spammers, thus actually discouraging folks from spamming. If you're worried about repeat offenses, just Mitnickize him, make sure he doesn't touch a keyboard.
Remember: prison is ineffective punishment, expensive for society, and profitable for the prison industry only.
edit: yes I know he was phishing. I know that is much worse. But it is still nonviolent crime for financial gain, and I don't think that prison term is an effect deterrent or an appropriate punishment. - theghoul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Where's my $69 copy of Office 2007 professional?
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nope, 'for' bad rubbish. 'To' implies that I was referring to a human being. I wasn't.
- brianez21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This guy also committed wire fraud and stole money, he's not just a spammer, he's a CROOK.
- kazuhima, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2is spam emailing the same as "scamming"? the headline title seems wrong to me...
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Good riddance for bad rubbish. Good to see that the justice system works sometimes where it counts.
- lazyrussian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Good.
Checks Gmail Spam-Box...248
But Not Good Enough. - pirana0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I forget where I read it, but 75% of the world's spam comes from 10 people.
Still, there are probably that many email accounts made just for spamming. - rude0197, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This isn't an anti-spam win in my book. How about hitting a legitimate business for spamming my inbox. Mass emailing is joke and out of control.
- NewChar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm waiting for my Viagra mortgage.
- stmute, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yep, you're remembering Jeremy Jaynes in Virginia. It wasn't all that long ago either. Here's the Washington Post article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR2006090501166.html - modernjazz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2One down, 4,240,665 to go
- Twango, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hang 'im. Hang 'im high!
- DyDx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yea, I don't remember the specifics, but this is NOT the first time someone has gotten convicted for spam email in the US.
- Michael701, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Misleading headline. AOL previously convicted a spammer (who is now in jail). This headline should be labeled Phishing, not spamming.
- robman30, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ney gets 30mo. for corruption and this guy is looking at 101yrs. Guess it pays to have money and influence in a corrupt fascist legal system .
- krisper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Excellent news. Next please, death by slow torture for virus writers.
- DatDamWuf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if spammers are prosecuted spammers fewer spammers will exist. Of course this does nothing to stop the biggest spam bunch out of russia, take what we can get...
- ThisIsBob, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Hang him.
- johnnyrotten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wasn't there a trio of people convicted of spamming a few years ago in Virginia or NC?
- Bleach00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Definitely. There is quite a difference between phishing and spamming. One is actually harmful, the other is annoying and harmful only if you are very stupid.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2free Viagra pills that was a joke? whoops
- drakethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You do realize that its a maximum not actually set yet. Also most murders face longer then 25 years. Also I may ask you why you reposted the exact same comment from the article on digg? Publicity whore?
- SundayTrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, he's not even on the ROSKO/Spamhaus list...
- HP844182, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just want my: (***Actual Spam Email***)
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I made him some coffee. I make him some coffee.
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Our office can help you lower that number to 5.01 unred substantiality
I named the baby Susan. I named the dog Fido.
Fill out your app: glochidian truckway
I offer her some money. I offered her a ride home.
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I paint the room green. I painted the door.
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***Actual Spam Email*** - shil01, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Good riddance *to* bad rubbish.
/rubbish police - 5hop4orce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He wasn't convicted for spam e-mailing. He was convicted for PHISHING.
Reported inaccurate. - aletornw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1en la carcel cuando diga que esta ahi por mandar spam se le van a cagar de risa
(i don't know how to say that in english) - surfing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He's a hell of a driver though
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He's not going to white collar resort prison, is he? He's going to federal PMITA prison, right?
Sweet. - Promantarius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Taking away some of his money isn't going to be an effective punishment either. What if he has parents that are millionaires and they pay it off? What if he's part of some underground crime network and they pay it off (unlikely but yeah) eh? He won't learn anything if someone pays off his sentence, forcing him to go to prison ensures that he'll have to think long and hard about how bad the stuff he did was. While I'd agree that even though 101 years for a phisher is slightly excessive we don't know all the facts, for all we know he could've ruined 50 lives by financially draining them.
I'm fairly sure 10+ years and whatever punishment comes with robbing a bank would be more appropriate, but I'm sure the judge knows what he's doing (excessive punishment first, appeal, reduced to something less yet still excessive.) - michelbites, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1GOOD!
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Since nobody else has taken the opportunity:
I hope he enjoys all 101 years in Federal poundmeinthass prison. And no, I don't think it is excessive. If you multiply all the time that people spent deleting his spam, the amount of time that IT admins spend trying to control it, and the amount of money spent on otherwise unnecessary bandwidth and anti-spam programs, 101 person years isn't nearly enough. - Spartandog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0FIRST person??? Why has it taken so bloody long to catch and convict ONE person? The Feds are taking way too long to catch and convict phishers and spammers. If they offered rewards to hackers for taking down these guys, I'll bet there'd be a long line of guys waiting to be tried in no time. They're just not working hard enough to catch these crooks.
- scoobyroo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is this case applicable for the death penalty? ;)
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I agree with the 'hang him' comment - let's face it - what do we hate more? Someone who annoys us on a daily basis, or some guy that killed a few hundred people 20 years ago in another country?
- Jefferico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0101 years for all counts added together.
Even if he is convicted and gets all 101 years, most of it will be concurrent.
Even if it's 10 years each for ten charges, he will only be in for ten years.
Although the first charged with anything is usually made an example of. -
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