What is Digg?52 Comments
- jimmyjohnston, on 01/20/2009, -1/+54I just can't believe the FCC actually had the foresight to ask this question! Great question and keep it up!
- foltaggio, on 01/21/2009, -0/+29This is why we need Net Neutrality.
- Pinkertinkle, on 01/21/2009, -0/+21Comcast needs to give us the bandwidth we're paying for and then stfu.
- Ecowarrior, on 01/20/2009, -0/+18The worst connection I ever get is when I talk to someone who is using comcast.
- the_blob, on 01/20/2009, -0/+16It's not just voip but they're also screwing with T-Mobile's UMA service
- CalmLlama, on 01/21/2009, -0/+15Im totally ok with giving them the $100,000 per user per incident fine the fcc was going to put on them for violating net neutrality. They said they would comply and they didn't, clearly they need to be punished.
- larryjr88, on 01/21/2009, -0/+14I honestly think the FCC does a successful job.
Comcast is legally allowed to have a monopoly over areas. Because of this, the government is allowed to regulate them. The FCC has been stickin it to them so far... now I hope they get on their nuts about hardware expansion.
Somebody has to expand infastructure, and Comcast is legally the one authorized to do so. Then again, they are a profit seeking corporation. Seems like a bad combo. - haikuFU, on 01/21/2009, -0/+7Yep, they screwed with my VoIP connection several times. I called and got through to Tier 3 support each time, and every time they said they found an access list blocking UDP port 5060 to my provider. And every time time they said it shoudln't have been there and they removed it. But, 2 weeks later, it would be back. After about 4 times, I just cancelled my VoIP and used my cellphone.
Now, I have a VoIP connection again, but I route it over a VPN to a firewall I host at a local datacenter and shove the traffic out of that instead so Comcast can't see what I'm doing. It adds a good amount of latency, but at least it still gets through.
Isn't disrupting phone calls a felony? - MikeSD34, on 01/21/2009, -3/+8Comcast will admit to this, and stop filtering VOIP several months from now. Several days after that someone will release a software 'modem' which encodes data in audio signals to be transmitted over the VOIP channel. A service will be released in which you can call a fixed number via your VOIP service, and through this tunnel they will offer you unfettered access to the internet. This will start as a usage based fee, then move to an all you can eat, and then, several years later back to a usage based fee. Then, wanting to cut costs, they will start applying bandwidth shaping to the worst offenders rather than increasing the amount of load they support using their profits, leaving their own services unaffected, and charging the content producers for access to their customers. People will rally forth for internet sub-network neutrality, and then someone will come out with an app for tunneling your data over their unfiltered services and ... yea.
- clickwir, on 01/21/2009, -2/+7This is really good to know. Very important and no ISP should be discriminating traffic.
However, I have Comcast and Vonage.... and have (almost) never had any issues. - billraydrums, on 01/21/2009, -0/+5I think government just kind of pulled it's head from it's ass.
- inactive, on 01/21/2009, -0/+4Unfortunately, they'll just pass that fine along to customers.
I'm starting to think we need to nationlize our communications network in this country. I mean, after all, the Fed is already listening in thanks to warrantless wiretaps and echelon, so there's no worries about losing privacy... - BlatheringIdiot, on 01/21/2009, -0/+4* ' Pop ' * ! ! !
- magamiako, on 01/21/2009, -1/+4Okay just to make this clear:
It's not whether or not Comcast's throttling targets VOIP services directly. It's whether or not Comcast's digital voice service is also affected by this "protocol agnostic" throttling.
I'm willing to go out on a limb here and say it's probably not, since Comcast offers it as a separate service.
Comcast should just give up while it's ahead and look for other ways to improve their network service--preferably methods that do not involve punishing their customers for using what they pay for. - BrettFromTibet, on 01/21/2009, -1/+3I have had some bizarre experience where Comcast dropped Skype calls very quickly... but it has been intermittent... not a consitstent problem enough to make me point a firm finger.
- coldkill3r, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2I would rather have more isp options, but (as long as the government stays out of the internet) this seems to be the only other option.
- Hermmunster, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2I think the point is that they are interfering with competing services, as well as others.
- maskedm564, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2The only 2 people I know that got Comcast VoIP phone service went back to their regular telephones in about a month. Both said the service was just awful.
- scecilio, on 01/21/2009, -2/+4Hmmm I haven't seen any issues with Vonage over Comcast Internet.
- magamiako, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2klippoth:
Yeah, I know that's how it worked (buddy of mine used to work for Comcast and he had all the books and ***** showing how the various frequencies worked and whatnot.
Which is the point the FCC is trying to make now. That since the phone service is separate to the internet and is not part of the internet service, this means that it should be regulated differently.
On top of that, this also places other services such as Vonage at an unfair disadvantage to consumers. - enrq, on 01/22/2009, -0/+2in digg comments mark-up language, only the closing tag is needed and it's just s for sarcasm
</douche> - Hermmunster, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2I have comcast and they are interfering with almost everything. If I download a few large files it will make it so that I loose my connection. I have to loose power to the modem and reconnect. If I don't download much at all the modem keeps going. I've been thinking about complaining to the FCC.
- ByteMeAHole, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2Hmmm... I wouldn't doubt that they are interfering with VoIP. Having recently changed from Commie-cast to FiOS, I can say that my Skype sessions are much better with no drop-outs under FiOS. I can't say that Comcast's lousy service was intentional because, the word that describes their service it: SUCKS.
So I usually just credited dropped calls and garbles to their inability to maintain a stable connection. Basically, if you download anything on the order of 50-80 MB you'll notice your service crater - often requiring power-cycling your modem. Comcast simply sucks... - pyromaster114, on 01/21/2009, -1/+3<sarcastic>
Comcast? ***** with the traffic?
No... couldn't be...
</sarcastic> - SpiderOne, on 01/21/2009, -1/+2Not with Comcast but with Shaw, but about two weeks before Shaw rolled out their VOIP service my Vonage connection which had been good for two years suddenly went to *****. A little too coincidental if you ask me. They also do deep packet inspection for torrents and most P2P as well.
- hellbent187, on 01/22/2009, -0/+1That's BS. Hopefully there's another option for you besides Shaw. I read the CRBC or whatever it's called is looking into Canadian ISPs interfering with network traffic. I wish you all up there the best of luck.
- hellbent187, on 01/21/2009, -2/+3I have Packet8 VOIP and Comcast is my ISP and I have no problems.
- colonelxc, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1This just in - Not all of the government is corrupt, more at 11.
- klippoth, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1I actually work for Comcast, and can clear up that particular point. Comcast's Digital Voice cannot be throttled in any similar way because it isn't run over internet at all. It runs completely separately, on different frequency radio waves, directly through the coax, just as Cable TV is on a different freq. Therefore, it instantly sidesteps the entire concept of throttling, by existing outside of Internet bandwidth. But don't get me wrong, I am all for Net Neutrality, and don't side with my employer on every issue...
- napk, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1Would it really surprise anybody?
- jhandfield, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1Honestly, I've never had any problems on either end. I have Comcast phone service which has worked fine under load and my office phone calling home to our SIP server hasn't stuttered under load either. Maybe I'm just lucky.
- inactive, on 01/21/2009, -1/+2Comcast sucks
- inactive, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1Good, this company full of professional extortionists need to be kept under watch.
- saltydawkins, on 01/22/2009, -0/+1I have the same setup and the only issue I ever have is when I talk to my aunt who is on Comcast and using Comcast's VoIP.
- enrq, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1it's two devices using a part of the radio spectrum for digital communication... how's that different from a cable modem again?
- RevJonathan, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1Working for Comcast? That sucks. I hear Kim Jong Il is looking for someone to feed children to his sharks in North Korea. Assuming you want to work for a less evil entity.
- CalmLlama, on 01/21/2009, -1/+2I believe the torrent fine would have been in the trillions of dollars and would have totally shut down comcast.
- yunus, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1Comcast's phone service as others above have said is run on a different frequency than the internet. It's a totally separate service. It's no different than Verizon having a dedicated telephone line and a DSL line. Comcast just does it all over the cable line but it is 2 different services.
- RevJonathan, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1I have to agree, I'm pretty satisfied with the FCC. I know they do the whole censorship thing too, but for the most part they're pretty well run.
- yunus, on 01/22/2009, -0/+1It's not just more of the same, it really is different.
- pyrates, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1Shaw is worse here in Canada. If you don't choose to use their voip and instead go with a competitor, they will charge you $10 extra a month for traffic prioritization.
- forcedfx, on 01/21/2009, -0/+1I envy the fact that you can get FIOS in your area. That being said, FIOS has guaranteed upstream and downstream bandwidth speeds. Comcast's bandwidth is shared throughout your node, so if your neighbors start some heavy traffic it can affect your Skype calls.
- Idris9, on 01/21/2009, -0/+0I agree!!
- inactive, on 01/21/2009, -1/+1They prioritize their own VOIP packets. Since they don't provide a very fast connection, when you loose that prioritization, your call quality goes down.
- DynamicBits, on 01/22/2009, -1/+1That "Reply" link is for when someone wants to reply to a particular post or thread. It is not for people who want their post to show up closer to the top of the page.
Next time, you'll find that by scrolling to the bottom of the page, you will be able to properly add a new comment. - enrq, on 01/22/2009, -1/+1another frequency which could be used for building bigger pipes and bigger trucks to deliver the internet... and end the bandwidth "scarcity" problem caused by p2p
</s> - veeracs, on 01/22/2009, -0/+0Time to screw the pig!
- klippoth, on 01/21/2009, -1/+0See reply above - Comcast is not VoIP. It is similar to POTS.
- DJMattB241, on 01/21/2009, -2/+1***** Comcast.
***** the FCC.
I'm okay with VoIP though! -
Show 51 - 52 of 52 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is