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- nahsrocketeer75, on 05/08/2008, -1/+211It's nice to see civil liberties win one for a change.
- Jenadae, on 05/08/2008, -3/+200***** THE PATRIOT ACT!
- humanerror, on 05/08/2008, -4/+143Pretty clear at this point that the US government is the enemy of the US population
- funkyjunk3, on 05/08/2008, -3/+83Just the very hint of getting one of these National Scare Letters from the FBI freaks out 99% of the businesses out there, and they just drink the KOOL-AID as they are told to. They take the Blue pill, and without even a bit of thought give the Agents info for their illegal dossiers. And what does the FBI director get for being a bad little boy? A slap on the wrist, told not to do it again.
I think the Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. John Conyers says it best:
"The department had converted this tool into a handy shortcut to illegally gather vast amounts of private information while at the same time significantly underreporting its activities to Congress. We do not trust government always to be run by angels, especially not this administration."
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7006811564 - thorgrim, on 05/08/2008, -4/+82In America, the Patriot Act ***** you!
- kelvlam, on 05/08/2008, -0/+76one for the EFF!
- nicku, on 05/08/2008, -1/+56The EFF does great things. If you are concerned about free speech, privacy, intellectual property and other rights in the digital age, join up.
http://www.eff.org/
- phanophish, on 05/08/2008, -1/+42The bad part is the settlement effectively imposes a NDA on the entire case for the Internet archive. Even in the event the FBI's use of NSLs is later found to be unconstitutional the Archive can't then disclose the nature of the NSLs because of agreements within the settlement. The settlement they signed prevents them from doing so regardless of the constitutionality of the overall law and any future court decisions.
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -0/+38***** the patriot act, its just a way to turn the usa into a police state
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -0/+34Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
- funkyjunk3, on 05/08/2008, -0/+29Really. They are on the front lines against illegal wiretapping, and now they're on the front line against these FBI nastygrams. I shudder to think what we would do without them.
- oddtom, on 05/08/2008, -0/+29The vast majority of our so-called representatives voted for that abomination while standing there belting out "God Bless America!" Anything to look patriotic. Somewhere, Hitler and Stalin are looking on with tears of joy in their eyes.
I've made it a point to never vote for any politician that decided to undermine the American people and further empower the executive branch. - nbrntrt, on 05/08/2008, -0/+24The scary part is that they have sent out hundreds-of-thousands of these things. That seems a bit excessive to me. I would wager a bet that 90% of them had nothing to do with terrorism.
- mfc5200, on 05/08/2008, -0/+23"Nearly all NSLs come with gag orders forbidding the recipient from ever speaking of the subpoena, except to a lawyer."
This is one of my biggest concerns with the Patriot Act. What part of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press" do they not understand?
One of the most intelligent suggestions I've ever heard I read here on digg. The person said instead of reciting the pledge of allegiance every morning (which was written by a Christian socialist in the late 19th century), we should instead just repeat the bill of rights. If I ever start a private school, there is no doubt I will take that approach. Allegiance to a flag with no conditions attached? No f'ing thank you. - Hangly, on 05/08/2008, -0/+21Remember when everyone swore up and down that the Patriot Act would never ever be used for anything except fighting terrorists?
Yeah, good times. - GoneFishing, on 05/08/2008, -0/+20Wow, it has been some time since I heard good news about the individual, small business rights in America.
- Hangly, on 05/08/2008, -2/+22The US government is enemies with everyone, including parts of itself.
- icewater, on 05/08/2008, -3/+23The Patriot Act and Homeland Security are jokes in the biggest sense of the word. I, and many of my compatriots laugh out loud at the incompetence of the US Misadministration. The September 11 tragedy should have been dealt with by Interpol and not the US military invading a country that had nothing to do with it. That's what makes us so mad and history will definitely show that the lies and ***** that Bush and his cohorts have spewed out will be shown for what it is. Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush are sad little people who unfortunately had too much power. Collectively they have an IQ of about 100 an I'm not sure if one of them can even spell IQ. I just hope that the courts will be able to get them to trial and maybe even get a few capital punishment convictions. I hope that Fox News will show the sentences carried out LIVE!
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -1/+18Oops! You just got yourself red-flagged, comrade.
- jarofclay, on 05/08/2008, -13/+28Obama voted for the Patriot Act. What a moron.
- Hangly, on 05/08/2008, -0/+15The internet archive puts the lie to government misinformation on a regular basis.
e.g., immediately after 9/11 when Andrews Air Force Base deleted the part of its website that said it was their job to protect Washington D.C. Well looky looky, the Internet Archive still has the original version! - yellowfish04, on 05/08/2008, -5/+20+1 for teh nets
- Nuttyguy, on 05/08/2008, -1/+15I believe he voted for it and still supports it. Time to get dugg down for telling the truth.
- Neoanarchist, on 05/08/2008, -1/+13^ Ignorance.
- Eccles, on 05/08/2008, -1/+13Clinton - YEA McCain - YEA Obama - YEA
Nice choice. - inactive, on 05/08/2008, -0/+12I didn't realize they were funded by individuals - thanks for this comment. I just joined and made a $65 contribution.
- jarofclay, on 05/08/2008, -6/+17Doesn't change the fact that he originally voted for taking ALL of those liberties away.
If I take all your money...
And then give you $10.
What did I do?
I generously gave you $10.
The spin keeps spinning around and around. - inactive, on 05/08/2008, -0/+11It's wonderful to see a genuine Bush/Cheney smack down!
- rficwizard, on 05/08/2008, -0/+11Of course they did. The American government was terrorizing American individuals and institutions. Do you think people today are more afraid or less afraid to stand up to the government when they believe their rights or the rights of another American are being violated than they were before the September 11 attacks?
- Roryking, on 05/08/2008, -0/+10Just remember, it's one part maliciousness, seven parts incompetence
- funkyjunk3, on 05/08/2008, -0/+10The sign of a healthy and self-sustaining government! /sarcasm
- tech42er, on 05/08/2008, -0/+10All rights, not just "e-rights".
- milkmage, on 05/08/2008, -0/+9I don't think that's true in this case: "He was allowed to speak publicly Wednesday under a rare settlement in which the FBI agreed to withdraw its letter and lift the gag order. That should show other librarians, and members of the public who receive any of the nearly 50,000 national security letters the government issues each year, that "you can push back on these," Kahle said."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2 ... - Hangly, on 05/08/2008, -0/+9You were born with a fear response for a reason. And that reason is so you can respond to DANGER.
If you don't feel fear when there is a clear threat, then you are some kind of evolutionary failure, just like the dodo bird. - Brundy, on 05/08/2008, -0/+8"Though FBI guidelines on using NSLs warned of overusing them, two Congressionally ordered audits revealed that the FBI had issued hundreds of illegal requests for student health records, telephone records and credit reports. The reports also found that the FBI had issued hundreds of thousands of NSLs since 2001, but failed to track their use. In a letter to Congress last week, the FBI admitted it can only estimate how many NSLs it has issued."
So, they freely admit they don't even bother to keep records? How convenient. It speaks for itself. When is this adminstration going to be held accountable for any of the illegal things they have done? - deniedproject, on 05/08/2008, -0/+8And how! I call that and raise you a ***** BUSH!
- eggsovereasy, on 05/08/2008, -0/+8Maybe recite two each day so you do all of them every week.
- mllawso, on 05/08/2008, -0/+8So much for the government serving the people.
- funkyjunk3, on 05/08/2008, -0/+8http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-03-20 ...
- Hangly, on 05/08/2008, -2/+10What's Obama's position on the Patriot Act?
Not implying anything, I really want to know. - Sneakernets, on 05/08/2008, -0/+7already a member. :3
but seriously, everyone should join that cares about their e-Rights because they're shrinking fast. - Cornrider, on 05/08/2008, -3/+10***** the R.I.A.A. too!!!
- knobtwiddler, on 05/08/2008, -1/+8Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act
USA PATRIOT Act Additional Reauthorizing Amendments; Bill S. 2271 ; vote number 2006-024 on Mar 1, 2006
Voted NO on extending the PATRIOT Act's wiretap provision
Motion for Cloture of PATRIOT Act; Bill HR 3199 ; vote number 2005-358 on Dec 16, 2005 - deniedproject, on 05/08/2008, -0/+7Civil liberties what are those again?
- pjrbx75, on 05/08/2008, -1/+8thank god -- they'll never their dirty hands on all those embarrassing personal angelfire/tripod pages!!
- NYankee2003, on 05/08/2008, -2/+9Isn't the point of the internet archive that anyone can access it? Evidently the FBI can't work the internets' series of tubes well enough to just search. maybe next they'll send an NSL to Safeway demanding to know the price of milk.
- jdaniel284, on 05/08/2008, -6/+13Give me a ***** break already with the Obama *****. Obama votes for the Patriot Act that takes away a significant part of your civil liberties, then he later votes for the Patriot Act II (that in many regards is just as bad to worse), and you credit him for giving us back liberties? You are a fool. Don't try twisting a vote for the Patriot Act II into a act that restores individual liberty. Vote for Obama... fine; but don't paint him a libertarian. He's not.
- Hangly, on 05/08/2008, -0/+6Still waiting on Torbutton for Firefox 3. Just in case any EFF'ers are reading this.
- Heidenreich12, on 05/08/2008, -6/+12how can you even be against the Internet Archive? Some of these things shouldn't be issues, there has to be something 'better' to complain about... but, i'm sure i'm wrong (sarcasm)
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