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- nevesis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+111Fantastic! My tax dollars are being spent training Swedish police to raid datacenters to take down computers hosting links to The Fast and the Furious 10. Thank you, wise US government, for spending my hard-earned money so appropriately!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+100All that money spent for something they will never stop. Sad.
- doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -3/+79Thees is zee Svedeesh untee-purecy puleece-a! Poot yuoor CD boorner doon und yuoor hunds up! Bork Bork Bork!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+47and the rest is going towards buying new cluster bombs for the iraq occupation
- asif5th, on 10/12/2007, -2/+45Like the War on Drugs, The War on Piracy will never work.
- gldfshnpcklejar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46If it's not a never ending war on terror, it's a never ending war on piracy. How about going on a hunger ending war, something that is somewhat possible.
- pastasauce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+41War on drugs.
War on terrorism.
War on piracy.
What do they all have in common? Yes, thats right, they have not, and never will end. - D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34Don't be silly, they'll look like this:
http://pictureserver.funnyjunk.com/pics2/riaa.jpg - Ngai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33Lemme guess...
they are gonna look like this...
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2356/xin05120115162384356251qv2.jpg
to take down some servers that can't even defend themselves... what a waste of taxpayers money... - goldfenix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30The only person capable of catching a pirate is another pirate.
Has Johnny Depp taught these people nothing? - Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Yes. Imagine if drugs were digital instead of physical--a click of a button replicates your drug of choice a thousand times in countless homes--and that gives you an idea of how little sense a "war" against piracy makes. Piracy is capable of making guerrilla maneuvers that terrorists and Vietcong couldn't even DREAM of.
Yes, pirates are cooler than ninjas. - Mc_Carter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24I'm glad were focusing on important issues in the U.S. god forbid corporations don't get paid, I mean they need that money to survive.
- threepio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21I didn't think you could bastardize a bastardization. Thank you for proving me wrong.
- arrozconevan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21When our tax dollars are being spent like this when we have to deal with ***** like Iraq (and making our next generation not dumb), you know this is the pointing towards the downfall of this country. :(
- BESTenemy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19@gldfshnpcklejar
Just ask any politician.
The war on hunger and the war on homelessness are the ones we can't win, cause there's no money to be made in the process of fighting them. No profit = no solution. No incentive for those in power. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Piracy is dead and all it took was the Swedish Super Elite Ninja Anti-Pirate Monkey Force
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Sweden gives us the best torrent tracker in the world.
We give Sweden the training to shut down the best torrent tracker in the world.
I'm embarrassed. - haggie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16The FBI thought thought they were training the Swedish Bikini Team. When a bunch of geeky dudes named Sven showed up, they canceled the training.
- donnydarko319, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15It's sad. This isn't to stop piracy. I highly doubt these companie sthink that's possible. The tech savvy people, the Digg users, the people who'd most likely not buy CDs or DVDs anyway, are still going to pirate. What this does is scare the casual piraters: the people who would gladly pay for material, but realize that the choices they have now is crap. Articles like these scare them into submission, making sure they'll never download, because "they'll" get arrested. You have no idea how scared my parents when I download musicm, thinking the FBI will bomb our house or something.
It's scare tactics to keep the majority in check. Nothing more. - JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I told you our government directly funds the terrorists.
- jerryparid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Translation for those who do not speak Swedish
"Thees is zee Svedeesh untee-purecy puleece-a! Poot yuoor CD boorner doon und yuoor hunds up! Bork Bork Bork!"
This is the Swedish anti-piracy police ! Put your CD burner down and your hands up! Bork Bork Bork! - molecool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Governments LOVE to create 'the war on [xxxx]' because it distracts the public from the real problems politicians are either too dumb or too corrupt to take care of. Don't worry about getting decent health care or education for kids, and don't complain about the shape your roads are in - your government is busy fighting [xxx], which is OBVIOUSLY the #1 priority that requires sacrifices and a great amount of resources.
All the money that's being wasted on ***** like this could be spent to make this planet a better place, less corrupt, less tragic, more equal and more humane. I've given up hope a long time ago - it's all doggy-dog I guess. - yakoff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11It makes as much sense as the "War on Drugs". That has certainly been a stunning success. The only people getting rich are criminals and DEA agents.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I love that video where those ***** walked thru tpb's server farm. Too funny.
- johnsmithsocket, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Hey, it's nice to know the US Government is against and not for the people. It's really nice to have a warm gun nowadays.
- Tippis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Question is who pays for it.
Sounds more like it's the MPAA that's paying for it, the FBI forking out the know-how, and the Swedish police that gets some nice but utterly pointless extra "competences" lines on their CVs.
Past experience of similar special-unit exercises on the behalf of the Swedish police have given us exactly zero instances of making use of those units.
Hmm... I wonder if this means they'll be hiring in the near future? Might be worth signing up.
Great pay for being far too few going through far too much material, doing absolutely nothing... :D - Tippis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8...sorry for the comment abuse/spam, but I found my answer: it's the Swedish police (i.e. the Swedish tax payers) who pay for it:
Quick and dirty translation of the original Swedish text: http://computersweden.idg.se/2.139/1.95946
The American lobby group MPA and FBI agents have been educating Swedish policemen on the details of copyright and piracy. According to the MPA, the aim was to "teach and train" the Swedish police force how to fight piracy.
A couple of weeks ago, six officers from the Swedish police academy graduated from a course on the technicalities of copyright law, piracy and file sharing.
From now on, these six individuals will handle the majority of the police investigations on copyright infringement and piracy. Today, Computer Sweden can expose the fact that these officers were trained by representatives of the american movie industy lobby group MPA, the American federal police force FBI, and the Swedish Anti-piracy Agency.
Representatives from these three organisations were invited to the police academy to hold lectures on how they conduct their work against piracy, and to give examples of successful missions in other countries.
According to the MPA, they also explained technical terms such as "top sites" (secret internet servers from which pirated material is disseminated) and "camcording" (the act of pirating a movie from the cinema screen using a video camera).
Among the speakers were the Brussels lobbyist Peter Bergström, representative of the MPA, the FBI agent Andrew Myers and the Anti-piracy Agency's chief lawyer Henrik Pontén.
The lectures were held during a seminar on the 24th of January at the police academy in Stockholm.
From what Computer Sweden has leared, representatives of all the Swedish police districts had been invited to participate in the conference.
After the inquiries made by Computer Sweden during last Friday, the list of participants has been made secret.
According to Bertil Ramsell, course administrator of the police academy's special training, the aim was to give the invited speakers the opportunity to explain their respective operations to the students. However, in a report from the IIPA, an internation organisation the MPA is a part of, the movie- and music industries give their particular view on the seminar:
Here, the aim was described as "training and educational work" for Swedish police officers.
The report also mentioned that "the industry has plans for further training and educational opportunities with police officers and prosecutors duing 2007"
Marianne Hilton, chief councillor at the Police academy responsible for the advanced training, defends the decision to invite the MPA and the FBI to the seminar:
Is there not an apparent conflict of interest in inviting american lobbyists to give lectures at the Swedish police academy?
"I have complete confidence in the course adminstrator who set up the seminar" says Marianne Hilton.
"We have many contacts within organisations outside of the police force, and if the conclusion is that there are some other relevant competences to be had in those organisations, they will be invited to participate.
This is a matter of making sure our police officers do a good job -- there is nothing unusual about this procedure."
Is it common pratice to invite lobbyists to the lectures held at the police academy?
"No, I wouldn't say that it is. It depends on the topic of the lecture."
Are there any other cases where you have done so?
"I couldn't say, straight off."
"We often invite non-profit organisations related to the topic we're working with at the moment."
Isn't there a risk that this affects the officers' idea of what their mission is really about?
"No. This [lecture] is a part of a whole. What's being dealt with here is how best to solve the problems at hand, and what techniques are available to do so."
Should foreign lobbyists really have the right to influence how the police works?
"Coming to a seminar does not mean they influence the procedures the police force uses. They come to share their knowledge on the topic -- they do not in any way control the education itself. Having a seminar means inviting several different groups, each of which brings a unique perspective [on the topic]"
Did you invite any groups that represented the other side of the debate, such as the Pirate Agency or the Pirate Party?
"No. In this case, we did not." - jooaakim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8That Sweden just bends over as soon as some super power comes lurking is widley known. But for something like that?!
***** unbelievable. And I thought the first thing that the democrats and Nancy Pelosi were gonna do was to put an end to the lobby organizations.
Btw, guantanamo has to be a lot bigger for it to house Sweden's all hard criminials. All 4 million of them or so. - DrScott, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8And this is all to enforce something that is near fringe illegal, at best.
- Frost9999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Do the FBI et al really think they can stop this kind of sharing? People just move around to whatever site is the flavour of the month. I don't even bother with tpb anymore.. I prefer the search on btjunkie.
- DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The RIAA / MPAA's intelligence, apparently. What is with these morons? TPB aren't pirates, they never have been pirates. Is the RIAA/MPAA staffed by old folks who just don't grok technology, or what?
- stonedgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Don't they have more valuable stuff to be doing with their time?
Hey does anyone remember that Osama guy? - molecool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yup, it's really reaching the boiling point for me. I live in California and we have some problems to take care of over here. Creating 'peace in Iraq' and enforcing the profitability of the RIAA and MPAA is NOT where our priorities should focus on. Millions of kids in this country live in poverty - nobody seems to care. Hundreds of thousands of people die from cancer each year - nobody seems to care. The icecaps are melting and our civilizations exterminates 35 animal species a day - nobody seems to care. But hey, at least we won't have kids pirating our precious intellectual property - I'm relieved....
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8broomett: i know this is hard for the conservative mind to understand, but just because you say so doesn't make it true. have you looked at the prisons in the US? we have more people incarcerated per capita than any other industrialized nation thanks to "just say no"
- ThisIsBob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Why these people think they can keep ahead of Norwegian and Israeli teenagers is beyond me.
- Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Because we all know that piracy is up there with terrorism. That's one hell of a way to use our tax money. I remember how John Ashcroft had the porn industry in his sights just before 9/11. Good job there. Is Alberto "Himmler" Gonzales trowling for 9/11 II? I mean that man would love for that to happen because then he can push for more draconian anti-privacy laws and throw the Geneva Convention and human rights out the window like he wanted to.
- MindTrigger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Iraq? *****. Iraq is so last year. Iran is where those new cluster bombs are going.
If anyone con figure out why we need 2-3 carrier groups in the gulf, besides a war with the entire middle east, let me know. - BillDoE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Hello, my name is Inga. Would you like to swap a files?
- trifle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The fact that goverments and corportations still work to end piracy is ridiculous. Piracy is winning by a vast margin and growing more and more every day. Time and effort should be spent to find a common ground, however, even that seems unlikely. In time Piracy will become the accepted norm and DRM companys will be put out of business.
- AmishRefugee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6isn't that lovely, my least favorite country is trying to make my favorite country just like they are.
- Sithseth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5OMG, put on your hacks, the 1337 police are after us!
- molecool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"I understand exactly what you're saying, but pirating the music/movies is not going to get you anywhere."
WRONG - it's those demonstrations which you suggested that won't get you nowhere. They can ALWAYS outspend, outlitigate, and outlobby your ass. How many people demonstrated against all of the EV1s being collected and being melted down? Thousands! GM didn't care and you don't see them on the street anymore. You need to hit those companies where it hurts - the bottom line. They never change unless they are forced to. Why do you think we see mp3 files and movies on iTunes and other sites at all these days? Because the record companies are ***** in their pants and finally had to realize that they can't keep on charging $25.- for shiny disk. Your arguments are specious, pal - it's not the 60s anymore and most people these days are consumerist sheep - your little demonstration of a few hundred well meaning folks will not impress them. However, you not ever buying their overpriced crap again however WILL. - wtf00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5maybe we should make our own "elite pirating unit"
- KyferEz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I wholly agree. The corruption is beyond rampant. Unless major changes are enacted, it's going to get worse and worse. I hate greedy politicians, corrupt gov't officials (that's basically all of them), and shady operations.
- tokyomonster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Apparently there's a wordpress template for pirate news sites?
- KyferEz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Blasted comment time limit...
Furthermore I don't like DRM because I want to play my stuff when, where, and how I want. Therefore, I don't buy any online media, and don't buy CDs or DVDs either. Why not CDs? Because buying them supports those horrid labels, and I REFUSE TO SUPPORT THEM. - KyferEz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@XTX7X
Screw you. I'm not morally bankrupt; I am tech savvy, and I refuse to buy another blasted piece of music or video until RIAA and MPAA are dead. Why? Because they have proven to have no morals. I was coposetic until those f@#$ing companies began suing people illegally. At that point, they became a much larger evil they supposedly were fighting against.
RIAA is run by labels that act as a PIMP and treat their artists like WHORES. Go to hell RIAA and MPAA. - DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4bork
- kurtwinter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Dear FBI,
Where the ***** is Osama?
Thanks for that bang up job you've been doing. - s0lace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Absolut Piracy
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