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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+46Yeah... you could not click the ads to make them eventually go away..
Or u could just use FireFox, and never see any ads.
FireFox anyone? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31ads pay for all your free services asshats.
if there weren't any ads you would be paying buttload of money just to google something. - i440, on 10/12/2007, -27/+52Have any unwanted extra memory?
Firefox will also fix that problem - renegadeafk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26If you don't Like ads why the ***** would you click them?
- invalidusername, on 10/12/2007, -8/+31Don't like ads? Use Firefox and Adblock.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23The reason Digg.com can't seem to figure out a way to be profitable, even with the HUGE traffic numbers it has, is that most digg users have either figured out how to block ads entirely, or they simply have learned to "tune them out" and never click on them anyway.
The simple truth is that sites who get more clicks are those that have the dumbest users, who are unable to distinguish between ads and content.
Slashdot also has this same problem- their traffic would seem to indicate that the owners would all be filthy stinking rich, but once again their audience simply doesn't click on ads.
BTW- want to know where over 60% of google's revenue is coming from over the last 6 months according to the guys over at webmasterworld.com ? it's the free ringtons scam, which is dominated by one company with over 60,000 domains.. Dada Mobile.
They now purchase wildcard ads just like ebay does, ie "Looking for XYZ, then come to ebay!" except the ads say "Complimentary XYZ ringtones" ..
When you go to the ringtone site, which may have any of 40,000 domains, you enter your cell phone number and the service sends your cell phone a message. You reply to that message on your cellphone by pressing send, and suddenly you're getting charged 20 bucks a month for a subscription service with horoscopes and other *****. You wont get charged on a credit card, you get charged on your phone bill. If you read the very bottom of the light gray typeface on every dadamobile website, it disclaims that you're signing up for a subscription serivce, but the only thing most people see is the giant letters at the top saying "FREE RINGTONES! NO CHARGES EVER!!"
Also, their 1800 number has no live operators, and there has been any recorded instance of their customer service ever answering an email. The company Dadamobile is located in Florence, Italy, and has their bank account in the african country of Nigeria.
If you read any of the SEO forums you will see that nearly every single SEO scammer on earth has now switched to linkfarm and splogs trying to get people to sign up for dadamobile's service, because they pay 40 dollars per click.
Basically dadamobile has figured out the ultimate profit engine- teenagers who dont know any better and don't have credit cards, but DO have parents who will pay their cellphone bills.
Dadamobile, as of 5 months ago, has now surpassed ebay as Google's largest advertiser. Unfortunately, Dadamobile is being sued in almost every one of the 50 states in the USA for massive fraud by the FTC. try going to ripoffreport.com and just enter in dadamobile.
It's a sad state of affairs when web 2.0 has found its ultimate profit source- ripping off clueless teenagers.
This whole scam is going to end just as badly as the first dot.com crash. Probably worse. - eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25I actually forget there are ads on the internet sometimes. Thankl you, Firefox.
- apotropaic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16WTF people... have you forgotten that its the ads from large companies that keep most of the sites we frequent FREE?! And all they ask is that you click an AD or two! OR NOT even... just displaying them gets most websites money. What a bunch of freakin looser snobs... just want everything for nothing. Screw you!
And I hope you are banned from the internet. - invader, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16yep.. then they might resort to advertisement splash pages.. the only think adblock does for those is leave you with a blank screen and a tiny "skip ad" link in the corner
people seem to forget that advertisements help makes free sites free. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Sometimes the Adwords results within Google searches are far more relevant, or just as relevant to your query than the natural results. This is mostly true for commercial searches and not research related queries.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12damn right. we all consume so, so, so much free content, and all we have to do is suffer some ads. it's a good trade.
i don't block ads because i want to continue to consume free content. - MySchizoBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Isn't it suppose to be the other way around. IF u don't click on ads, the webmaster will make the ads more intrusive than before. making ur life even more miserable. Like the ads on ign.com.
If u clicked on the ads in the first palce, they would not have forced ads everywhere on the page. Just a thought. - borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18only click digg ads
- JSchwage, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16Or you could just edit your HOSTS file like me and never see any ads in any browser ever again. :D
- Slig, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@foolfromhell: Do you think that the money that goes to digg when you click on an ad comesfrom where? Google? NO! Comes from an advertiser! who is expecting results and NOT getting his money "donated" to digg
- Zonkzor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I don't block ads unless they are annoying or really useless. I've snatched some nice deals or free trials from advertisements before.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7no, if you don't click, advertisers will make them even more obtrusive and annoying.
i click on ads which are relivant or look like something i might actually want. google gets lots of business from me. other companys get blocked at my proxy. - phatalbert, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11since the ads are contextual they aren't actually all that bad. sometimes the links are even somewhat useful
- zeptobyte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5We want free services, but don't want the ads that support them.. What a sad state of affairs.
- garyh84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5timmarhy, and how much does the website owner receive from you buying the pc or paying for your internet?
And then how much does the website owner PAY to keep the website up and running, including time used to design the website and scripting then paying for hosting and spending their time writing content or paying someone else to write it. - garyh84, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Obviously you've never heard of CPM ads.
- kaidadragonfly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If digg wants our money, maybe they should start selling stuff, like coffee mugs and tee shirts or something.
Just a thought though. - synystar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5So did anyone actually try searching for "ipod" on google to test this artical out?
It didn't work for me. I tried refreshing dozens of times and re-searched several more. I didn't click any ads and the ads did not move or disappear, or become less obtrusive in any way. - zweben, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Ditto.
Their business plan is "Hey, let's pretend to have useful information in search results so we can send people to a page that asks them to give us *$90* to subscribe, just to read the damn article." - Soave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I just tried that same experiment with "iPod" in Google, and it didn't work.
- DoubleGoodbye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yet another digg comment thread the shows how little people actually read the articles they digg. In this case it seems most didn't even read the first *sentence* of the summary.
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7the only ads i've ever clicked on, as far as i can remember, have been google search results ads. just... so.... relevant....
i've never clicked an intrusive advertisement. they only motivate me to block them (i'm dumb because i don't use public black lists.. i know..). while text ads don't bother or distract me (unless they are designed to blend in with the content i'm trying to read. - zweben, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Or, for Safari users, PithHelmet:
http://www.culater.net/software/PithHelmet/PithHelmet.php - pacificdave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3..... Well, in your world there wouldn't be a need for digg.com because most linked to sites are advertisement driven. I would still be paying for the daily newspaper because there wouldn't be a need for them to expand to the web. Also web search definitely would have taken a back seat ride with Microsoft because of a lack of revenue model. I like my current world better....
- generalsticky, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Kevin Rose and Alex Albrecht who play the little ad games.
- Minos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This comment is a bit late into the digg process and I haven't read all of the above so I might be repeating what someone else said, but:
I like ads because they let me know what products and services are available to me in relation to what I'm seeing/interested in.
Problematic ads are the ones where it makes the site look ugly/unusable. But that's not the ad's fault, it's the web master's fault. My solution to this problem is to not go back to sites that are ugly because of ads. - garyh84, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Ignorance. If you click on ads which you don't have any use for, it could end up hurting the publisher. This is because of smartpricing. Lets say digg gets 1000 clicks, but 0 buys... the advertisers would then use smartpricing to lower the amount of money digg gets per click, or the ads which are high paying just won't show up anymore.
So basically, you are screwing Digg by trying to 'help them'.
Oh, and as for the rest of you wanting to block ads to websites you visit... they will just find other ways to get around your adblocking or the website might just seize to exist. You see, many webmasters have families... they get money from the ads. - BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Normally I don't mind ad's but I hate the wicked intrusive ones that pop up over the web page you want to see and play this stupid ass little flash and the X box is really small. That and its also annoying when I am reading an article to have "LOWER YOUR MORTGAGE RATES" flashing over and over, its distracting. Usually I have to right click and hit stop.
- RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I think that this article is a bunch of crap. I did a search for "iPod" the way the guy specified, and refreshed the page up to 100 times - the banners were still showing up.
The only logical explanation for his fluke that I can think of is that perhaps all of the advertisers on the keyword "iPod" had reached their budget for that day... thus meaning no more keywords showing up. (although this is unlikely)...
In any case - the article is full of it, and the comments could just be "copy + paste" into any generic thread on "Internet Ads" because nobody seemed to have RTFA - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2if ads were up to the minute and relavant such as pinpointing local stores that have "real" deals going on today, I'd be more apt to pay attention to them. As it stands, all advertising looks the same. How about overhaul the system?
- Zonkzor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4That was an excellent post. My policy is I block ads that annoy me. For the longest time I let adsense ads pass through because I occasionally saw something useful. But lately I've been blocking them because of the complete lack of quality control Google is showing. So many of them are Ebay's dumb ass, shady looking, or outright scams. With the lack of any real way to report them or any guarantee a real human being will actually read it Google doesn't seem to care.
There is no doubt about it. Google makes a good portion of their fortunes from the unchecked hordes of scammers on the internet.
"Do no evil" - detrate, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10I _hate_ webmaster world.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Ads are a necessary evil. The ignorant few who champion blocking at all costs would be lucky to be as prescient as they are selfish - because the world you'd will into creating would consist solely of Viacom, Tribune Media, Yahoo and Google owned websites...exactly the world the internet was supposed to supplant.
- Zhay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just because you don't click ads doesn't mean others don't. Believe or not, people click ads. Why don't you try running a website before you say such ignorant things?
- Zhay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not to mention, in your world, the only sites that would exist would be .net sites, .org sites, .gov sites, and .mil sites.
- RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Yep... I just pointed out the same thing below. This article is full of it, and nobody else seemed to have rtfa...
Marked as INACCURATE - bass0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Relating to the original comment, this is not the article's point.
In fact, the article explains that Google's algorithm adapts to its individual users.
What I wonder is, is the Google cookie enough or do you have to be logged in? - carlosglz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Contextual ads, like those on google are a good thing, especially when you are looking to buy something. A company willing to pay for ads is a company that is in the business of providing what you are looking for... I have saved myself a lot of time and headaches by paying for products and services from someone that knows what they are doing because they do it for a living.
- ktaneer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here is a Unique strategy to display Ads on websites (http://expressionsinsolitude.blogspot.com/2006/09/new-advertising-plan.html). There is no clicking... no mess, and guarantees you revenue.
- karuberutsu, on 10/12/2007, -11/+12Here here.
- cosmotron, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8Who actually reads and clicks ads?
- garyh84, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Be thrown in jail on what charge?
- antdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Or Mozilla or SeaMonkey suites with Adblock. ;)
- AWarnack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Hooray for editing your HOSTS file:
http://everythingisnt.com/hosts.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@DoubleGoodbye
look up "customizegoogle" extension for firefox -
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