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Digg: Your Feedback on the New Comments System

blog.digg.com — We'd like to hear what you think of the proposed changes to comments. Check out the video and let us know what you think by posting, digging up, or burying the comments in this thread.

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  • TimmyGUNZ, on 01/16/2008, -39/+1120Can you please change the color which highlights our own posts to something that stands out more? Perhaps orange?
    • dburka, on 01/16/2008, -4/+395Your own posts will be highlighted yellow (the whole comment, not just the header) so they'll be really easy to pick out. We're also adding the 'My Comments' link which lets you just see your own comments in context. It should be super useful. Your friends' comments will be highlighted green as well to make them easier to pick out.
      • fkr3, on 01/16/2008, -126/+2Make it more like these two sites:
        www.digg-whore.com
        www.reddit.com
        • Dokument, on 01/17/2008, -77/+3Testing new comment system. digg me down.
          • dandonia, on 01/17/2008, -4/+44Sorry to hijack I tried to edit my comment then messed up and it all went wrong and I couldnt comment again because your only alloud one per turn.

            I get really annoyed about the sessions expiry, I dont remember it happenening until a few months ago and now it just sucks. I might spend 20 - 30 minutes writing out a comment (overkill much I know) then i click the submit button only to find I have to refresh the page, this is made worse if the comment I was writing is a reply to a nested comment because then I have to find it all over again, this is made worse again if its a reply to a comment that is nested under a comment that I have dugg down already.



            Maybe if I knew why it happened I might be able to reduce it if it is not something that will be altered.



            I hate that the nestedness (like thats a word) is limited to something like two conversations. This often results in me wanting to reply to someone that has replied to another person and my comment ends up miles away from the guy I was replying to. Resulting in



            @philovivero



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            the above are the major issues I have with digg comments below are just some suggestions that could work out

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            Adding the ability to remove a double post within a time frame would be good, rather than just having the 2 minutes to edit the comment maybe I could delete the comment all together, or at least collapse for everybody by default so we dont have see these stupit "digg me down, sorry guys double posted" type of comments.



            Some conversations are huge and you just want to skip passed them - could you maybe put a "collapse current conversation" button so that people dont have to scroll to the top or bottom of the conversation to skip/colapse it.



            Having the ability to show all comments by default rather than the current system which requires me to click the link at the bottom would be good for some people. Maybe this could be a profile option. Maybe the ability to increase the image size for profile images at the side of the name would be a decent improvement as it would make commenters more recognisable.



            Well other than making the colours of my comments and friends comments more prominent I cant really think of any more improvements for the comments. But thanks for giving us the opertunity to give feedback.

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            lol I cant believe the session thing happened to me just now and I have had to refresh the page - this is very annoying - please sort it out.



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            One last idea



            Maybe there could be a "recently replied to your comment" indicator which would notify us every time someone has replied to a comment with out us having to go back and look for ourselves. I look at maybe 20 stories a day and comment on most of them, there is nothing worse than having to open them all back up and search through the comments to see if there was a reply. It could work by just checking your last ten comments for new replies.

            Not to mention the amount of space created for one carrage return - is there really a need for one press of the enter key to cause so much space.
          • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -0/+45Good ideas but no need to quadruple space each line.
          • h3lx, on 01/17/2008, -1/+15You should send that to Harper & Collins.
          • amirman, on 01/17/2008, -3/+24maybe the time-outs were a hint that you talk too much.
          • rarson, on 01/17/2008, -4/+1I just use the Neaveru digg tool to see if other people have replied.

            It would be nice if you could collapse a nest by clicking on any of the comments within the nest.

            The carriage return space thing only shows up when your comment is posted. The comment appears normally if you refresh. Or if you edit it, and re-submit it, it'll appear normal.
          • 2oonhed, on 01/17/2008, -0/+2Use http://diggcomments.headzoo.com/ for those vanity comment searches. I use it every day. Only one tiny drawback, it will only go back 100 comments max. I usually only go back 10 or 20 anyways.
          • rarson, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1That's why I use Neaveru. It goes back as far as you want.

            http://www.neaveru.com/digg/
        • sockpuppets, on 01/17/2008, -2/+57I'd like a button to filter members that are only made of socks or sock-like material, please.
          • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -0/+54Your session has expired, please refresh the page before commenting.
            This is my biggest pet peeve on Digg, please fix this. Other than that please keep up the good work. My favorite thing about Digg is how you guys always listen to us, the users. This is a rare treat today. Keep up the good work improving my favorite website, you guys rock!
            PS if anyone knows a way for me to make firefox not think the word "Digg" is a typo with the red underline, please reply, ty.
          • rpgmaker, on 01/17/2008, -0/+16@Nitesmoke: Add it to your dictionary, Firefox provide the option just right there...
          • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -0/+15@ rpgmaker
            I've been using firefox for a couple years, had no idea I could do that. Thanks for not being sarcastic and actually helping me, added to Freind list.
          • juniorb, on 01/17/2008, -0/+31^ What a touching moment
          • IllBeBack, on 01/17/2008, -2/+14They should hug it out, bitch.
          • 2oonhed, on 01/17/2008, -1/+7I am made out of carbon nano tubes.....is like socks? or even sock-like?
          • krebcycle, on 01/17/2008, -1/+4You're all added to my friends list.
          • Dubbsacc, on 01/17/2008, -3/+5Group Hug it out, bitch.
        • misterpony, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1These solutions are great but there needs to be total control over defaults in user preferences to go along with it. 'only mine' or 'only friends' or 'expand all' or any of them dropdown choices should all be able to be set as a user default.
        • burnblue, on 01/18/2008, -1/+1I just want to say, I hope some Digg employee like dburka takes the time to read EVERY comment here. There are some very good comments that are too recent and deep to be highly dugg. If you really care about what we have to say, don't rely on just diggs.

          And yes, I comment-jacked to say that
      • AndrewDB, on 01/16/2008, -66/+10DBurka, since you're part of team, a humble request, can you please, please add the ability to block people intimidately after you bury them?.. Sort of like another "Is -x- being offensive-" Block Him/Her or Report it.

        Reporting doesn't seem to do squat. :(
        • sfrench, on 01/17/2008, -5/+39Currently, after you digg a comment down, you'll notice a icon that appears next to the username of the person... click that and it will confirm that you want to block the user.
          • AndrewDB, on 01/17/2008, -63/+7You mean the circle with the / through it?

            That's a really clear way how to communicate "block", why not just a box with "block" in it?..

            Thank you for telling me though SFrench. :)
          • HeyChinaski, on 01/17/2008, -0/+40I think the issue is that, in Digg and many other UIs, something is greyed out to indicate that it is no longer enabled/interactive. The block button is kind of greyed out along with the rest of a header for a buried comment. It would be far easier to see if it was in a nice clear saturated red or something. I know it was a while before I noticed the button.
          • saisumimen, on 01/17/2008, -9/+8I don't know about a "saturated red", it would stand out a little too much and get annoying. At least try making the grey a little darker than it currently is. Maybe a mouseover message that says "Click here to block user" or something to make it clear to people like Andrew who are a little "slow" ;p
          • juniorb, on 01/17/2008, -1/+10I agree, the block button should be easier to see. Huh. Accidental rhyming. Nice.

            For what it's worth, I didn't even know there was a block button. I like everyone - and turtles.
        • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -0/+31I would like it if i could see how many diggs my comments have in my profile without having to click "see comment."
      • jaxzin, on 01/17/2008, -1/+68Currently the "sort by date (+10 or higher)" option only filters on the top-level of comments. Nested comments that have more than 10 diggs but a parent/grandparent with less than 10 are hidden. Can you make this a global filter so I see all comments with 10 or more diggs at any nested level?
        • trickyt, on 01/17/2008, -0/+30You'd want to see the 10+ digg posts' less diggworthy parents as well, for context.
      • jlmillstein, on 01/17/2008, -3/+64Allow people to change their mind about digging someone up or down. I accidently digg a really stupid comment up sometimes.
        • sbrown, on 01/17/2008, -4/+2Id like to see a variety of different styles of comment systems each pertaining to their own digg story, the most dugg in a week or two is the new comment system
      • patik, on 01/17/2008, -0/+20"We're also adding the 'My Comments' link which lets you just see your own comments in context."

        Will we be able to see how many diggs our (last 5 or 10) comments have right from one page? That would save a lot of time loading each story just to check that little number. Which leads me to my next wish: shorter load times and less crashing of Firefox.
      • vincenzo7, on 01/17/2008, -5/+1i like the idea of adding colors somehow. maybe top dugg comments get a color. YOUR comments get a color. etc.
    • 31213121, on 01/16/2008, -3/+374they still forgot the most important one: Links are almost always broken. If one adds a . , ) or something else to the end of a link, it'll be broken (example: http://digg.com).

      Btw, here's the guy who first posted about this a June the 25th of 2007....: http://coolblog.profit42.com/2007/06/25/the-most-i ...
      • dburka, on 01/16/2008, -2/+166Good point. We're trying to fix that too. Kevin can only talk about so many things in a video!
        • Nossie, on 01/17/2008, -8/+82It would be nice if I could really block people... religious fanatics, political fanatics, console fanboys ... you name it
          Actually, you could take a note of who was blocked by the most people and have a hall of shame :P A karma system might also give people second thoughts about 'anonymous' idiocy without repercussions too. Digg needs to allow the user to be the aggregator and editor.. I'd say half of diggs problems are the idiots that use it and not the system itself. (yes I am an 'idiot that uses it' but OTOH i'm not saying everyone on digg is an idiot)

          The new system does look far better though, should fix some of my most frustrating annoyances -- thumbs up
          • grakker, on 01/17/2008, -17/+1I like this. I block 10 people. Someone else comes along who agrees with me and blocks the same 10 people. Then they block someone, I don't mind having them automatically blocked for me.
          • Dested, on 01/17/2008, -4/+11Its a slippery slope. What if all those non fanboys start blocking fanboys. A percentage of the community agrees with the block, but that doesnt make it right. Im not sure how to solve this issue, but I would like to mass block.

            I was gonna reply to grakker, but my session expired.
          • amirman, on 01/17/2008, -0/+15i make a lot of sarcastic remarks on these boards and i know a lot of people think i'm serious and digg me down, is sarcasm not allowed? i don't want to be blocked by like-minded people.
          • rarson, on 01/17/2008, -3/+57Am I the only one who never blocks anyone? I just ignore the stupid people. Or make fun of them.
          • drewbe121212, on 01/17/2008, -0/+12Sarcasm is always allowed... just remember the official

            /sarcasm :)
          • Nossie, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Dested (damn sessions)

            no it would only be blocked to you.... although I guess that might make burying a problem - if everyone blocks you then there is nobody to bury your comment. I mean just blocking an account so that its buried when you read a story.....
          • l2OI3, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1haha this sounds like last.fm in a way
        • saisumimen, on 01/17/2008, -2/+10I would LOVE for stuff like that to be implemented but here's why it won't:

          The same reason why digg will never have a "story buried by" followed by a list of people. Same reason why digg will never allow you to block articles submitted by a specific person. These would be EXCELLENT features that would make digg super-flexible and customizable, but it goes against the whole spirit of the way they've done things. Hell, it took a while for them to actually admit that they were going around deleting stories manually.
          • h3lx, on 01/17/2008, -0/+13may be a sub cat in the history page telling you what you've buried...with an option to un-bury?
            Making the Diggblog Wii friendly.
        • arjung, on 01/17/2008, -0/+6he (kevin) doesn't seem to have that problem on diggnation...
          just kidding, of course. thanks for the fixes.
      • SkippyDoorknob, on 01/17/2008, -0/+64I've also had a similar problem posting long URLs and then editing the comment. The URL is intially abbreviated (like you see in the parent comment) with ... at the end. But if you then edit that comment, the real full URL is lost and now it saves the abbreviated form as the actual URL. Obviously this breaks the link.
        • funkyjunk3, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5I abhor this bug! I will post a mirror link thinking its all good an dandy. I then come back later in the day and notice my post is buried into oblivion because the URL was truncated, and people whining about no mirror! The awkward workaround is to edit all comments where I post a URL and repaste them into the comment. If I'm adding multiple URLs this is tedious.
      • CrumpetUp, on 01/17/2008, -2/+11what about how digg does it like on the facebook wall with the "add a link" option?
      • spyrochaete, on 01/17/2008, -6/+27It'd be nice if urls could be clickable even if you don't prefix them with http://
        • Dested, on 01/17/2008, -4/+5How is it supposed to know?
          • rageguy, on 01/17/2008, -2/+10Search for .com|.org|.net ect.
          • patik, on 01/17/2008, -1/+11Exactly. There are many other sites, Firefox extensions, and apps that notice URLs without the protocol. Even AIM has done this for years.
        • Rabbethan, on 01/17/2008, -3/+5No need to slow the page down even more for that crap. Stop being lazy.
        • Absinthminded64, on 01/17/2008, -1/+4That would be programatically expensive and it would make mistakes. use the http://
      • bingobongony, on 01/17/2008, -3/+12I think the more important thing is that if you add a link that is fairly long and gets abbreviated, and then go back and edit your comment, the link no longer works because the lnk becomes the abbreviated URL ad not hte original whole string.
        • funkyjunk3, on 01/17/2008, -1/+1but why should I need to? **That is a bug, not a feature!** beheading URLs is not something I would wish upon others, let a lone myself.
    • renegadeafk, on 01/16/2008, -22/+73THANK GOD.
      Our complaining has done good!
      • samssf, on 01/17/2008, -31/+3>_
      • badjoke, on 01/17/2008, -6/+14Unfortunately, everyone will just find new things to whine about.
        • rpgmaker, on 01/17/2008, -0/+19And making digg.com a better place. It's called feedback and as you can see is useful when you know how to give it.
      • airstrike, on 01/17/2008, -2/+13and yet people still don't use the comments system correctly. your comment is completely unrelated to the parent! don't abuse the reply comment, please.
      • sorrow, on 01/17/2008, -8/+3While some may consider Kevin to be a God of sorts, I can assure you that "GOD" had nothing to do with the improvements to the comment system.
      • Dugout21, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Yah, that one about multiple comments gets really annoying.
    • craftyguy, on 01/16/2008, -39/+7Please make the comment system look like the one implemented not-so-far-away in the Podcasts section (http://digg.com/podcasts).
      It's clean, easy to read, and easy to understand.
      • dburka, on 01/17/2008, -4/+38Did you look at the comment design in the video? Do you have an opinion on it? I think it's cleaner than the either comment system currently on Digg.
        • Markpdotcom, on 01/17/2008, -10/+1I think it looks good, but very much like a forum! They may as well just hack a version of VBB.
      • brundlefly76, on 01/17/2008, -2/+9All the changes in the video look fine, but its impossible to tell in a video - especially the page load time and hanging stuff, but also the overall feel.

        However, you guys need to get way more agile in updating your code. For example - hanging browsers - thats a serious bug, as soon as you had a solution to that you should have just fixed it, it should have never dwelled this long, it doesnt need our approval - of course we approve - its probably the biggest code bug I deal with in my browser every single day - fix it already.
    • Matt2k, on 01/17/2008, -68/+16It's like dealing with Google or Apple. After a year of development we get cutting edge things like "We've disabled the submit button after the first click". Congratulations on your 15 seconds of javascript programming. Have you guys considered hiring programmers?
      • phunlee, on 01/17/2008, -11/+37I'm sorry, but seriously? You're THAT mad? The guys at digg.com have a million dollar idea, do you even get dental where you work?
        I've said it before, but damn, you're that guy that no one likes, but they haven't worked up the nerve to tell you just how much of a jackass you are. No one likes you. You make people cringe when you walk into a room. You trap people into conversations they don't want to have, but you don't shut-up long enough for someone (with manners) to politely walk away. I think I just defined a douche. Yeah, you're a douche.
        • Matt2k, on 01/17/2008, -16/+19You're awfully defensive about a javascript button. Keep up the good work Dr. Freud. One day you can turn that burning passion of yours into an exciting career in hotel management.
          • kidcodea, on 01/17/2008, -10/+8ahaha ownage :D
          • SLYK, on 01/17/2008, -1/+9You didn't rebut his statement at all.

            You're still a douche.
      • theblt, on 01/17/2008, -4/+18How's the weather all the way up there? You know, on the pedestal you're standing on.
        • Matt2k, on 01/17/2008, -20/+6***** awesome.
          • theblt, on 01/17/2008, -6/+6I hope the padding of your diaper will help if should ever fall off that pedestal.

            Grow up.
        • ophello, on 01/17/2008, -7/+1you're so full of yourself im puking
      • Emused, on 01/17/2008, -4/+12I think everyone on Digg understands you Matt2k,and understanding is what makes tolerance of people like you possible.
        • Markpdotcom, on 01/17/2008, -0/+6Dugg up for the awesome reference! :)
          Am I old now that know the film its from?
      • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -1/+11Matt2k what the hell? At least they are trying to make something good even better. I just don't understand people like you. Why insult them when they are trying to help us. I bet you're the kind of person who complains about what people buy you for Christmas. Seriously grow up, no one is forcing you to use Digg.
      • Thefascist, on 01/17/2008, -17/+5Matt, don't listen to phunlee, he's a faggot. It's ok to make fun of people. I'm with you buddy, don't get down on yourself. Remember what's important in life.
        • GayMafiaKingpin, on 01/17/2008, -2/+9Faggot? Seriously? C'mon, man. Un-called for.
    • themastersb, on 01/17/2008, -4/+95My browser always hangs with the current comment system. I can hardly wait for the new one.
      • whereisian, on 01/17/2008, -0/+27All my browsers hang currently. Opera, Firefox, Konqueror, Epiphany. Well Konqueror kills the script after a bit, so it shows but is borked. Glad to see this is getting attention.
        • cawpin, on 01/17/2008, -10/+2I don't know what you're talking about. IE and Firefox both work fine for me, at work and at home.
      • Dested, on 01/17/2008, -1/+11Try it in firefox3 beta. Runs like butter.
        • IEatHamburgers, on 01/17/2008, -1/+9But the page never stops loading!
        • M4cb0y, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3Safari 3 and the new WebKit nightlies load even faster :)
      • Rekzai, on 01/17/2008, -6/+3My browser hangs on the homepage..
    • Dylson, on 01/17/2008, -8/+13Make sure it runs well on the ipod touch/iPhone. It struggles a lot, it gets kind of frustrating.
      • badjoke, on 01/17/2008, -0/+13http://digg.com/iphone.
        • bradkovach, on 01/17/2008, -5/+8iPhone digg's comments are weak. You can't even see all of the comments. Nevermind actually making one... you know... cuz the iPhone doesn't have a keyboard.
          • Dylson, on 01/17/2008, -1/+12You cant comment on digg.com/iphone period.
          • badjoke, on 01/17/2008, -0/+7It doesn't take long to get used to the keyboard and trust the well-working auto-complete.
          • Cory70, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Yea I've came into this problem myself with my Touch, not that big of a problem i guess but it would b nice to actually comment at that point and time to prove someones idiocy because by the time i get home someone has already done that :'(
          • h3ndrix, on 01/17/2008, -2/+1@Dylson MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS

            What part of your statement did bradkovach not already say?
    • TheDiggMan, on 01/17/2008, -20/+8Digg:
      Just make it look like this...
      http://i13.tinypic.com/8bejvjc.png
    • arcooke, on 01/17/2008, -48/+193Finally.. somewhere to talk about my suggestion.

      I think the entire thumbs up / thumbs down idea needs to be reexamined. I'm so tired of being silenced by people because I voice an opinion they don't agree with. I'm tired of being buried into oblivion for asking a simple question. I'm tired watching legitimate comments get stuck on the "bury train". When people see a comment with a negative rating, they continue to bury it (after all, +1 isn't going to affect -20). Let me make this abundantly clear: this is the reason I'm just about ready to stop using the comment section entirely. I'm tired of being censored.

      Comments should be rated much like stories can be buried. Options to rate a comment should include things like "I agree", "I disagree", "User is being a troll", "Spam post", etc and can be represented as icons with descriptions in the alt tags (to save space). Users posts should not disappear just because someone doesn't like it. Spam should disappear after reaching a certain threshold. Trolling should disappear. The ratings received by other members should be visible in the posts (for example, Bob123's comment says 4 people agreed, 16 people disagreed).

      Lastly, I think a user should only be able to see the ratings of a comment AFTER they have rated it (of it is their own comment). This would put an end to the comment system bury bandwagon problem. Users would rate the comments how they think they should be rated, they wouldn't just push "I disagree" because they see everyone else disagrees.

      If something doesn't get resolved about this soon, I'm done with this place.
      • spyrochaete, on 01/17/2008, -7/+90I personally like the thumbs up/down system as it is. I disabled the filter so that I can see even negative-scored comments so I just find it interesting to see how different opinions are rated. It's only censorship if you enable the censorship filters.
        • arcooke, on 01/17/2008, -16/+24That's fine and all, but it doesn't solve the problem. Just because you have your filters disabled, doesn't mean everyone else does. How would you like it if you asked a question and because some random people didn't care about your question, they buried you. A few minutes later your post gets hidden because it's below the default threshold (which I'm sure most people still use).

          Legitimate posts (questions, answers, discussion, helpful posts, etc) should be visible to everyone at all times. Garbage posts (spam, trolling, rude comments, etc) should be the ones being hidden. The comments section is for discussion.

          As the system is now, because I disagree with you (somewhat), naturally I should give your post a thumbs down. But that's not fair to you because your opinion is worth reading. See where I'm going with this?

          I remember a while back asking a question about car adapters for mp3 players in an mp3-player-related topic. As I recall, my post ended up around -10 to -15. There was nothing wrong with my question, but nobody cared about it so they buried me for it.
          • RobotBuddha, on 01/17/2008, -0/+11Same reason I stopped benchmarking programs or finding the relevant bits of source code for an issue being discussed. The work is worth it if it adds to the discussion, or if it even helps out one or two people. But it's not when people with emotional attachments to whatever is being discussed will instantly nuke posts that have facts instead of feelings.
          • xister, on 01/17/2008, -1/+13 I see what you're saying here, but asking a question isn't really a good example to use. Personally, (and I think many Diggers would agree) I think that asking questions of the searchable type on Digg is sort of like going into a library and asking the patrons to look something up for you. Google is (figuratively) right next door.
          • nospinhere, on 01/17/2008, -1/+12@arcooke Here is the problem with your solution. If you make a comment that isn't popular with the majority consensus here at digg, the "bury train" is not going to hit "disagree." They are going to hit whatever would make your post disappear entirely, so they would know to hit the "spam" or "troll" button because after so many hits your message will be hidden. As long as there is a method to hide posts entirely, the "bury train" will find a way of doing it.
          • koft, on 01/17/2008, -2/+14The problem isn't digg, it's some of the users, specifically users like arcooke. He thinks his comments are thoughtful and insightful, many are, but most are meh, and so he gets burried more than he would like. When he gets burried he doesn't simply shrug it off and move on with life like a normal person, he complains about it and tells us how the moderation system should conform to his own personal tastes.
            How would I like it if I asked a question and got burried for it and my comment disappeared? I wouldn't give a *****. There is no precise definition of a "legitimate post" and even if there was, it wouldn't matter in a peer moderated system where moderation is completely arbitrary.
            The solution is to get a life and accept the fact that sometimes your comments suck and will get buried.
          • dandonia, on 01/17/2008, -1/+4I love the idea of displaying both agreed with and disagreed with. At the minute you could be on +1 so it looks like nobody has even looked at your comment, but you could have had 50 people agree and 50 people disagree and nobody would know.

            As for the bury because part, how many times have your views been taken out of context by others, the other day I commented about the irony of the 360 possibly playing both hddvd and bluray formats for movies but only using dvd's for games and I got torn to shreds for it. I wasnt trying to say its a bad thing just that there is irony to the next gen gaming console that uses better media for its movies than for its games. Side tracked, my point is people would probably bury this comment as me been a troll which would then make my comment vanish.

            There seems to be a lot of grammer/spelling obsessed people here on digg, could there be some kind of algorithm that makes them go away, lol. No thats not where i was going, could there be a way to have digg comments automatically convert "i" into "I" and things like that.
          • spress, on 01/17/2008, -4/+4If your comment is pertinent and succinct, I won't digg it down. Some people use comments to vent instead of adding something useful. (Not saying you do that, but that's what often causes me to digg down.)
          • arcooke, on 01/17/2008, -2/+2@nospinhere

            I really don't think so. I think some people might do this, but if the ratings are hidden until a user votes on a comment, these people won't know which train to jump on.

            An example of a gray area here would be things like lolcat comments. Some people like them and might rate them as funny, whereas others might consider them annoying and rate them as trolling (I'd do the latter). But once again, if you can't see ratings until you've rated, they won't be able to click what everyone else is clicking.. it will be a genuine opinion of the post.
          • Karmavs, on 01/18/2008, -2/+1@aecooke - But if you can't see a posts rating without rating it yourself - what's the point of having the rating system in the first place?

            Stories on digg often have a huge number of comments on the - the reason the comment rating system is there is so that people only need to read good comments.

            (pertaining to your earlier posts, if most people know the answer to your question already, it's not a good comment.)
        • ccheath, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5people use the 'filters' to censor spam and trolls as arcooke mentioned... they are the undesirables here, not differing opinions
          i'm not saying that there shouldn't be any user filtering/ordering of the comments, but that when the users use the comment sorting/filtering system as a way of combating trolls and spam it kind of defeats the purpose
        • Philluminati, on 01/17/2008, -1/+5I never block people and I always show all comments. This way, I'm part of a wider discussion. Those that block excessively those who don't agree with them are just going to find themselves in with their friends, becoming more and more close minded about everything which I don't think is the right way to communicate. As they grow more extremist they end up forming these bury brigades. You know who you are.
        • Karmavs, on 01/18/2008, -1/+1@ccheath - There are other undesirable comments too: boring ccomment, stupid comments, obvious comments… any comment that doesn't add to the story (or another comment) isn't wanted. A filter cannot find those kinds of comments.

          For example - looking below me at 'Dested's comment "I agree with you whoeheartedly". It's not spam, it's not trolling, but it's not at all interesting, is it? thus, people bury it. a spam filter would not.
      • badjoke, on 01/17/2008, -7/+34I like the idea of the hidden digg value.
      • rpgmaker, on 01/17/2008, -1/+43Is a great idea but I don't want to digg every comment to see how it went with other diggers. Most of the time I don't digg comments but I laughed looking how dugg down some comments are :)
        • giid, on 01/17/2008, -0/+2So here's an idea for a compromise. Hide the digg value for any comment that has less than 10 diggs or so. This should curb the digg down into oblivion effect for unpopular opinions. Maybe make it so a comment can only go so many points in the hole, any more, and the digg is counted, but essentially ignored.

          If a comment has 50 thumbs up and 75 thumbs down, you can bet the comment probably has an unpopular opinion in it, but obviously 50 people still agree, or at least agree that it should be heard. Something special it seems should be done about posts such as this, and I'm not sure a digg down limit would solve it. Maybe make this a special case and show it as a wild card of sorts.

          Another possible idea, make digging up a negative comment somehow worth more.

          Oh and when I submit a post, spaces get turned into double spaces until I edit it and resave it--fix that.
          • rpgmaker, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Thumbs up and Thumbs down are worth the same thing, as it should be. We can examinate the arcooke proposal and make an useful improvement in the comment system tho...
        • heypetray, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Then you should be able to relinquish your digg to see the value... If you're so curious to see it, you should compromise. It's like voting in an online poll.
      • Dested, on 01/17/2008, -13/+7I agree with you wholeheartedly.
      • victorycig, on 01/17/2008, -1/+8Digg used to have a drop down menu to rate comments (similar to that for burying stories). It was more extensive, but also kind of clunky. A plebiscite vote (up or down) is limited, and can lead to groupthinking, but it probably encourages more feedback through ease of use than it restricts through hiding "legitimate" comments.
      • drobati, on 01/17/2008, -8/+4I feel mixed on this.

        First off I don't think the comments that are hidden due to being dugg down should be "uncensored" as you put it. I personally prefer not to read comments that are grayed out because I usually align with popular opinion. If I so choose to read them then I could adjust my filter just as 'spyrochaete' mentioned.

        Although I do agree that I should not be able to see the amount of diggs one has before you digg the comment as I'm sure there is bias based off amount of diggs. I think this would be a brilliant adjustment.
        • drobati, on 01/17/2008, -2/+2Actually, I think I could compromise on how grayed out comments are viewed. Perhaps instead of hiding them we truly grey them out in various amounts based of how severe the digging down is (so if its really heavy its hardly readable). This is something that is done on Joystiq and I think its a truly admirable feature. It makes the comments still readable but just makes it easier to skim over because its so transparent.
          • dandonia, on 01/17/2008, -0/+6So you dont even look at the things that people have dugg down because they are unpopular, can someone say SHEEP!
            I mean buy yourself an opinion dude.
          • drobati, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1I have a strong opinion.

            Just because I typically align with popular opinion does not make me a tool of any kind. Its my own opinion that I have formed. You people make me out to be some sort of unintelligent person for not wasting my time reading comments that aren't worth my time.
        • nospinhere, on 01/17/2008, -2/+19"I personally prefer not to read comments that are grayed out because I usually align with popular opinion."

          wow, just wow
        • foreignwarren, on 01/17/2008, -2/+4"I personally prefer not to read comments that are grayed out because I usually align with popular opinion." bro.....somebody should smack you upside your ***** head for saying something so stupid.... hope it was just a mis-type or you're potentially no better than a flesh eating zombie.
        • drobati, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3I went and grabbed that greasemonkey script that shows you how many thumb ups and downs you have, so rather then thinking meh. Only 1 person out there disliked my comment enough to digg it down, I see to my liking that it has -5 and +4 duggs. This seems to be a much more telling feature. I would love to have something like this implemented in the next iteration of diggs comment system.
      • thepol, on 01/17/2008, -2/+6I'm thinking maybe a pulldown to the left of the thumbs up and thumbs down button with options to report spam or troll etc. and then have the thumbs up and thumbs down just represent people's agreeing or disagreeing with the comment.
        • xister, on 01/17/2008, -3/+7Ah yes! A REPORT SPAM button! We need a report spam button, Kevin! And (this may be extreme, I'm not sure) possibly a button on the user's page to report spammers profiles.
      • chubbstar, on 01/17/2008, -1/+8its not censorship if people can still read you comments..... i know i usually read dugg down comments to see why they were dugg down in the first place.
      • ahsteele, on 01/17/2008, -1/+3I really like the idea of removing the number of thumbs a comment has received. Though by doing so do you remove the ability to have a filter? If there is no visual indication of how many thumbs a comment has received would a filter still be applicable or usable?
      • Navicerts, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Nice ideas. It's true the current system is mainly an "agree" or "disagree" thing. However, there is a bunch of spam buried as well; i don't want to have to sift through what mob mentality dugg down and separate it from the garbage.
      • RobotChicken1, on 03/07/2008, -1/+3If nothing else, this part was a great idea:

        Lastly, I think a user should only be able to see the ratings of a comment AFTER they have rated it (of it is their own comment). This would put an end to the comment system bury bandwagon problem. Users would rate the comments how they think they should be rated, they wouldn't just push "I disagree" because they see everyone else disagrees.

        I hate to admit it, but I do it too: I see a comment with a ton of negative ratings and I'm just inclined to press the red thumbs down. Same with a lot of thumbs ups. However, I still like the thumbs up/down system other than this small change..
        • Karmavs, on 01/18/2008, -0/+2so… if no-one can see the ratings before they rate them themselves, what purpose do they serve? Other than inflating the egos of people with highly rated comments, I can't see any.
      • DarkyHelmety, on 01/17/2008, -2/+2RAMEN!
    • stockjones, on 01/17/2008, -8/+2Im glad this was the first comment. Thats been a gripe of mine as well.
    • punx777, on 01/17/2008, -9/+4Can we perhaps have a dramatic hamster button?


      New system looks great guys! This was a great idea... Imagine what America could learn from the Digg effect.
    • techboy, on 01/17/2008, -8/+2GREEN, highlight them to GREEN.
    • i3x171um, on 01/17/2008, -4/+10It surprised me that the "show comments" link was still there in this video. Why will we still have to click to see replies? Just indent them 20-or-so pixels, especially now that the data is already going to have been loaded. The only reason I could come up with before as to why it was there was to save bandwidth, and that won't be a reason anymore. It doesn't un-clutter the page, and it doesn't fix the problem of deeply-branched conversations getting indented farther than the width of the page. I literally can't come up with a reason for having this link, and frankly it annoys the hell out of me to be interrupted in the middle of reading a long conversation because I have to click to continue.

      Get rid of it, please.
      • Karmavs, on 01/18/2008, -0/+2Don't get rid of the 'read replies link'! It's good because usually you can tell what the replies will be about from the comment - and if you wouldn't want to read them, not have to look for the end of the thread. Eg: the replies to i3x171um's comment (such as this one) are clearly going to be either agreements with her, or counter-arguments (such as this one). If you're not interested in the topic, you don't have to look through all the replies.

        Besides - there's already a setting in your user options that lets you view all comments by default.
    • DocHoliday22, on 01/17/2008, -0/+18Make replying to comments easier. If I want to reply to someones comment I have to scroll down manually to find the "Reply to comment" link. This really does my nut in when a single comment to has been replied to so many times that it's an impossible task trying to find the reply to link.

      Also clear up the code, Firefox browsers keep spewing out "stop script" warnings when their are too many comments on one page.
    • DemsFTW, on 01/17/2008, -0/+10Please place the number of diggs for a users comment next to that comment in that users comment history. I think it would cut down on the reloading of any one article-comments page, which is probably more taxing than looking things up in a database by username (or userID).

      Did anyone understand that?
      • Cerebral, on 01/17/2008, -1/+3I think I did... you want to be able to go into your submitted comments and already see the amount of diggs without having to click on the comment to be taken back to the story etc. Did I win?
        • heypetray, on 01/17/2008, -1/+2I'll ref this this one...
          Yes. You win.
    • thebrawl, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4You should be able to see your comment scores in your comment history (like reddit). It would be an easy database grab for the existing comment history code. Some people are curious about how well other people liked their past comments, but they don't want to keep track of all the past threads.
    • xEn1gma, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1I second this notion.
  • TimmyGUNZ, on 01/16/2008, -37/+2121Please let us change our mind on deciding to digg up or down a comment. Sometimes I accidentally digg someone down when I meant to do otherwise and then there's nothing I can do about it.
    • Craga89, on 01/16/2008, -115/+10I too would like a feature like this. Maybe they could implement it into the "My Profile" section like the did with the "undigg" buttons? Or even just stick an alert in there verifying that was the intended course of action, although that could become cumbersome...
      • t3rmv3locity, on 01/16/2008, -1/+168Definitely do not make digging a comment 2 clicks though...I would probably stop digging comments all together if that happened
      • betterth, on 01/16/2008, -7/+112Ahh, a Vista user I see. =P
        • sint4x, on 01/17/2008, -0/+8Your are attempting to bury a comment. Cancel, or Allow?
      • JohnM5, on 01/16/2008, -1/+99I think it would be better if they would just let us click on the other thumb.
        So if I accidentally dugg them up, it would gray out that button but leave the red digg down button still there so you can change your mind.
        • Thefascist, on 01/17/2008, -11/+4but what if you didn't just want to undigg it but you wanted to digg them down, what then?
          don't get me wrong, I like the idea, atleast like this you're half way there.
        • xister, on 01/17/2008, -1/+18Speaking of accidentally digging the wrong way, could you guys (Digg) please move the thumbs up/down buttons away from each other just a little bit? If I had a nickel for every time I meant to hit one and hit the other....
        • Karmavs, on 01/18/2008, -6/+1to go further with xister's suggestion - why not put the digg & bury buttons on opposite sides of the comment header?
      • Shananra, on 01/16/2008, -1/+36No, not an alert. I like to scroll through comments quickly, hit the arrow and move on. Instead I would like to make the buttons still grayed out but clickable- so I can go back and say "oops"

        Think of this as like not asking for confirmation when you delete something, but including a recycle bin to give you the chance to say "oops"
    • IDIGGFREELY, on 01/16/2008, -11/+149I'd definitely like to see this implemented as well. Perhaps comments could be edited even past the time threshold by only allowing an ADDITION to the comment rather than complete editing powers.
      • jhuebel, on 01/16/2008, -8/+41You can do that now simply by replying to your own comment.
      • Shananra, on 01/16/2008, -3/+119That could get messy, replying to yourself is almost always sufficient. I would like the chance to delete the comment within the two minute window, however.
      • aussieNickuss, on 01/16/2008, -1/+86I would like a discard button also (in the editing time). If you hit the submit button and then realize you have replied to the wrong thread, the only way around it is to admit your mistake, or to enter a blank character....either way, your comment will still show.
      • plbland, on 01/18/2008, -1/+3...but but but what if someone does this:

        -great comment- 300+ Diggs

        -comment addition- You're all *****!!
    • strictnein, on 01/16/2008, -13/+395And I wish that when you bury a comment it would be great if the comments and all of them after it didn't disappear.
      • Archon810, on 01/17/2008, -59/+3but they don't... they used to but now only the dugg down comment disappears.
        • Intrepion, on 01/17/2008, -1/+18Let's test this
        • Intrepion, on 01/17/2008, -4/+1okay, I thought I could test this, but I can't reply to my own comment
        • spyrochaete, on 01/17/2008, -0/+15When you refresh the page all subcomments are hidden as well as the parent.
      • dracostimpy, on 01/17/2008, -8/+54Perhaps digging down and burying should be mutually exclusive actions, since saying "I disapprove of you" isn't nearly the same as saying "get the hell outta my sight". I should know, because mommy always said the former to me but daddy said the latter. Then one day mommy told me to put daddy in the wood chipper, so I did it because I was mad at daddy for sending mommy to heaven when I was a little boy.
        • darrenpauli, on 01/17/2008, -14/+1+100 - That should be a feature for funny c*nts like Stimpy here
        • spyrochaete, on 01/17/2008, -2/+6I disagree. Green thumb good, red thumb bad. I like that a relevant comment can still be dugg down unconditionally if the spelling is terrible, for example. Law of the jungle.
      • JARSInc, on 01/17/2008, -2/+21I accidentally buried you.
    • quack, on 01/16/2008, -4/+15I've done the same thing way too many times.
    • p5ych0, on 01/16/2008, -7/+248How about adding how many diggs and burys each comment has, like this greasemonkey script: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/11578
      • Hoogs, on 01/17/2008, -0/+28Or like this site does: http://diggcomments.headzoo.com/
      • antitab, on 01/17/2008, -0/+26This is a pretty important thing because it gives insight into how volatile a comment is according to the community. When you see a controversial comment smack-dab in the middle of a huge thread and it's at 1, you know it's been buried and dugg to hell, as opposed to stuff lingering at the bottom hours after the story breaks, but the difference isn't always obvious.
        That whole concept of volatility adds a new dimension to comments. There's a lot of potential there.
        • MelroseMan, on 01/17/2008, -0/+10Plus when you get buried into oblivion it doesn't hurt your soul as much when at least 5 people agree.
      • Rotzooi, on 01/17/2008, -0/+9Would be the best addition evah!

        Some comments seem "new" or hardly viewed, because they have a +1 rating, but when you load the GM script, it shows it is a very contentious comment, with -50/+50 diggs. Like Antitab says, important addition!
      • homeagain1, on 01/17/2008, -1/+1Yeah, or maybe an icon or something else that shows there is disagreement. Or an icon to show whether a comment is on the way up or down.
      • TnTBass, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3Thanks for the tip on the greasemonkey script.
        It works like a charm!
    • delfin1, on 01/16/2008, -31/+5I have never dugg up or down accidentally, but i do change my mind; at that moment an undigg button would come in handy. HOWEVER i really think undigging can be too messy; like seeing stories move up and down in ranking. I don't think it would be a good idea, might become abused somehow.
    • carbonetc, on 01/16/2008, -18/+182Adding a few more pixels between the two buttons might help with the accidental misclicks too. They're small targets.
      • ninja0, on 01/17/2008, -3/+11You need to play more FPS, my friend. I have no troubles clicking the two.
        • lintmonkey, on 01/17/2008, -7/+1I disagree, but dugg you up because it was funny.
        • Pssdoff, on 01/17/2008, -1/+5lol, yeah, and if you click the very tip of the thumbs up it should say "HEADSHOT!"
      • RichGC, on 01/17/2008, -1/+3Better still space them apart with the digg and burry counts

        [ DIGG COUNT ] [ DIGG ICON ] [ BURRY COUNT ] [ BURRY ICON ]
      • Gamer2k4, on 01/17/2008, -2/+1I run 1920x1200 resolution, and the buttons aren't that small, IMO. I don't have any problem clicking a specific one.
      • BoneStamp, on 01/18/2008, -0/+1Two wide buttons that have the count built in, then you can click as far away from the other button if you're someone who tends to miss.
        [ DIGG ICON DIGG COUNT ] [ BURRY ICON BURRY COUNT ]
    • dracostimpy, on 01/17/2008, -9/+89Can't think of the name of it offhand, but I have a Firefox add-on that shows the total count of thumbs up/down for each comment in separate red/green boxes just to the left of the thumb icons. I kinda like that because you can see that +2 really means "+10 and -9" instead of "only 1 person bothered to read/enjoy your comment besides yourself". Nice to know you're getting feedback instead of just being ignored.
      • dracostimpy, on 01/17/2008, -30/+2Oops, p5ych0 nailed it 3 comments up. Please bury me and digg him!
      • BoneStamp, on 01/18/2008, -0/+1Can you lookup the name of this addon in your addon window... I searched the addon site for it and could not find it.
    • magicmarc, on 01/17/2008, -7/+164Whoops, meant to digg you up there, sorry about that.
    • lyrica42, on 01/17/2008, -3/+16I too would like to Undigg comments. I think all of my other concerns were addressed on the vid, like finding your own comments and such. Thanks!
    • 10GunSalute, on 01/17/2008, -3/+17Yeah, same here, sometimes I've accidentally hit the "Report Abuse" button. Kind of embarrassing...:D
      • zglows, on 01/17/2008, -17/+2oh sorry i just reported your comment
        • xister, on 01/17/2008, -0/+13..aaannd I just digg yours down... By mistake (cough)....
    • sfacets, on 01/17/2008, -4/+22Not only in the comments, this would be a great feature for the actual stories...
      • spyrochaete, on 01/17/2008, -0/+13I agree with this. Total transparency. It will put an end to the "Digg is corrupt" conspiracy theorists.
        • xister, on 01/17/2008, -0/+8Hmmm, thinking in that vein, how about a digg to bury ratio on the user's profile?
    • papastout, on 01/17/2008, -1/+9Yeah, I can undigg stories just like the rest - no biggie to do that. But undigging comments would make for more accurate data and stats, no? I would love to see a "change your mind" feature.
      • elemmeno, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1They could just grey out the button you pushed and leave the other selectable. For example, if you give a comment a thumbs down, the thumbs up would still be selectable. Then you could click it back up to neutral if you wanted - both thumbs up and down selectable again. This way you could change your mind or correct a mistake without clumsy timers or having to go to your profile page or whatever.
    • triplehelix, on 01/17/2008, -8/+4i'd like to see a section in users profile, that shows the stories they've buried. we can see peoples dugg history which is often very useful, but thats only half the picture.
      • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -1/+10I don't know about this one, I don't mind people knowing what I digg, but for some reason (even unjustified,) I kinda feel like it's no one's business what I bury. Maybe if they give you this as an option for people to see it or not in your settings, maybe it would be OK, then.
        • triplehelix, on 01/17/2008, -1/+2one of the main reasons, is many good news items get buried buy fanboys of opposing products, or companies, or political groups, ect.
          • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -1/+4Good point. I didn't think of it that way, but I agree with Generva, trolls would go out of their way to retaliate against anyone who buries them, follow them around and bury everything they post.
          • Waterrat, on 01/17/2008, -1/+2 They sure would..
            Now,I really don't care who has buried what.
            A lot of spamming garbage deserves to be buried in the Digg letterbox.
          • triplehelix, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1wow. people are weird. i'm thinking only the people who are so against their bury history shown, are the ones i wanted to expose for their fanboy ways.
      • Genevera, on 01/17/2008, -1/+10I don't know. There are a few Diggers (a very few, but here nonetheless) who take their submissions WAY too seriously and would take retaliatory action against whoever buried their stories. It's important to be able to bury a story without worrying about someone stalking you all over Digg, burying your comments and flaming you because they're mad that you buried their stories.
    • HitnRunTony, on 01/17/2008, -3/+3Yeah this would be great cause I just accidentally dugg down the first comment right now.
    • stalzdiggity, on 01/17/2008, -5/+1amen
    • Abatrour, on 01/17/2008, -12/+2.... oops I dugg you down by accident...

      jk
    • Cerebral, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1This happens to me usually because the current system is sluggish and locks up and for some reason my mouse click will now click on something that was threaded beneath where I was clicking currently.
    • gotamd, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Yeah, that would be a nice feature. I've only done it once or twice, but still.
    • vincenzo7, on 01/17/2008, -5/+2also, a user should get next to his name, overall comment diggs. like net +350, or net -200 all time
    • heypetray, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1TimmyGUNZ digg count beats the most I've seen on a comment. Grats!
      It's off topic, but I'd like to know where I can see the highest dugg comments in digg history. Anybody know of such a place?
    • i208khonsu, on 01/17/2008, -0/+2I'd like to still be able to view comments that I burry. Often I will burry someting but will want to respond to it. Because I can't read what he said anymore I am unable to quote or site specifically what he said.
  • philovivero, on 01/16/2008, -25/+810I only ever view comments in order of ratings, best to worst. It'd be nice to be able to see the parent or children of a particularly high-rated comment. I'm rarely interested in comment threads unless the parent was particularly insightful or interesting, but in those cases, I'm very interested, and switching view type then searching for the comment is burdensome.
    • HeyChinaski, on 01/16/2008, -2/+18Agreed, although I'm not sure how to present this. Perhaps a "view whole thread" link on each comment when viewing in order of diggs that expands the whole conversation.
      • HeyChinaski, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5I guess this already exists in that you can click the "xx minutes ago" link and go to the subset for that comment thread (Sometimes this is broken though and it only shows the top comment). Am i the only one who never noticed that before? Perhaps it could be a little clearer.
    • joestump, on 01/16/2008, -4/+31And how do you propose this be designed? It's difficult to show threads in the context you describe because a +100 comment could be the third level of a thread, which breaks your sort. I think a better option would be to sort by "thread rating" (e.g. if the thread has three comments with 5, 50 and -10 digg counts then the "thread rating" would be 45).
      • joestump, on 01/16/2008, -5/+17I just realized that you could sort by "thread rating" and then set your minimum threshold to something high (e.g. +5) and get a pretty awesome view of the discussion. It'd be the highest rated threads with only the highest rated comments exposed.
        • Lyph5, on 01/16/2008, -25/+4Want an idea on how to sort comments?

          http://slashdot.org
          • Supernova36, on 01/16/2008, -7/+3Sort them out into a mess maybe..
        • ArchieAndrews, on 01/16/2008, -1/+32The problem I see with this is malicious users tanking thread ratings by putting outrageously inflammatory comments in it.
        • ccheath, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1joe, can you sort the comments by percentage?
          say show the comments section threaded, and minimize the bottom 90%
          call it something like view top 10% or something and have other percentages to give users more options
      • trickyt, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3I think what makes the most sense for a "thread rating" would instead be if you have three comments with 5, 50, and -10, the thread is rated at 50, the max of the comments. You can also strip out subthreads rated at less than X. So then if you had:
        -20 -> (50, -10 -> (4, -2), -20 -> (35, -3))
        after filtering with X = 10+, you would see:
        -20 -> (50, -20 -> 35)
        Does that make sense?
      • Cl1mh4224rd, on 01/17/2008, -3/+2> "And how do you propose this be designed?"

        I don't know... Ask Slashdot? They've had that feature for years.
      • rrasco, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Also keep in mind that a thread could receive +50 only to have some douche say something dumb and get -45 which would result in a thread rating of only 5 when the thread could have really been a good one.
    • kuwan, on 01/17/2008, -1/+10I'd just like highly-rated comments to be auto-expanded. Don't expand the whole thread, but just show comments in any thread that are highly-rated.

      Highly-rated may need to be relative to the average number of diggs per comment as some stories have many more comments than others, but this would be my most desired feature. Please, please, please let us see the highest-rated comments without having to click through every damn thread.
      • Thefascist, on 01/17/2008, -2/+2this is a bad idea, highly rated comments shouldn't get anymore highlighting than any other comment. It will ruin your digg experience or should I say diggxperience. Bad comments are part of the experience.
        • ccheath, on 01/17/2008, -1/+1i wouldn't say "Bad comments are part of the experience."
          i would say that a lot of good comments come after the initial swarm of hitting the front page
          also a lot of good comments are from a minority opinion
          this is not to say that bad comments aren't part of the digxperience
    • alexandermiller, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5YES! definitely agree with this suggestion. tricky implementation, but i'm sure it's possible. even just a little "go to thread" link that shows you the entire comment tree of the first parent for whatever thread the comment was posted in.
    • colonelbuckshot, on 01/17/2008, -5/+1I'd like to see the highly-rated comments just stand out through use of bold font on the digg count or color or something
      • colonelbuckshot, on 01/17/2008, -3/+1Correspondingly the low-rated ones should be all-grey, including the 'Show' link
    • andr3y, on 01/17/2008, -1/+4yeah just like REDDIT :P
    • Sliver147, on 01/17/2008, -1/+0It would also be VERY good to show or have the option to show the latest comments made.. else it's always the first comments made to a story that get all the attention.
    • TnTBass, on 01/17/2008, -0/+2I agree, the current structure of the comment system limits debate due to having to drill down through the comments. How to fix this? Perhaps top rated comments stand out more? Perhaps a rather contentious comment can be flagged as "debatable" to promote replies to that contentious comment? I often find people would rather post a new comment, as opposed to replying to a comment simply due to the understanding that their reply would not get the same attention as a first time comment.

      Questions? Comments? Concerns?
    • DarkyHelmety, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Agreed, and it should be done by fraction of the total diggs, not just an arbitrary number so popular threads wouldn't have all comments showing
  • TimmyGUNZ, on 01/16/2008, -11/+287One last suggestion from me...

    I don't like that if I reply to a comment that I dugg down, it's extra hard to keep track of. Hopefully the new changes you outlined to my reply above fix this.
    • dburka, on 01/16/2008, -0/+57I think the "My Comments" option will really help with that. Currently, it's generally difficult to find your own comments unless they're in the first branch of the comment tree. You need to remember the parent and then scroll down, find it, click the open link, and hunt down your comment. Being able to see all of your comments with the context of the immediate comment thread around it should be useful I hope.
      • Lythium, on 01/17/2008, -0/+8Very clean solution - kudos to whoever suggested it in the first place.
      • lintmonkey, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3I think the number of diggs your comment has should be viewable on the My Comments page so you don't have to click through unless you want to. And maybe also a little "Replied To" notification next to the comment on the My Comments page so you can see at a glance if your comment was replied to, again without clicking through to the original submission page.
      • astrosmash, on 01/17/2008, -1/+1Why is there a "My Comments" button in the first place?

        Just show me my comment threads by default.
    • Shananra, on 01/16/2008, -1/+27It just shouldn't hide replies to buried comments, unless they too were buried.
    • jhuebel, on 01/16/2008, -1/+18I would add that if your comment falls below the initial 50 comments, links from your profile/history pages don't work correctly.
    • kingfoot, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3ok i doubt anyone else would like it, but i noticed it is a more forum like look. and thats great. easier and something we are all semi used to. well some of us. but what i would like to see, is a reversal. meaning put the user info and icon on the right side of your comment cell. and the up/down buttons on the left hand side. basically just mirror it is my suggestion.
    • ninja0, on 01/17/2008, -0/+2I hate when sometimes I digg a comment down, then I start replying to it.. and forget some of the detail I was addressing -- but I can't view the comment anymore! sometimes I can, but more often than not, I can't view it again.
    • JlmAWP, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1I just use my profile to find it. Two clicks.
    • corruptivesum, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1seems like a glitch in the current system to me but sometimes (not always) when i digg down a comment i cant unhide it, i click unhide and it just lets me see the replys and report it as offensive.
  • dunnduggit, on 01/16/2008, -240/+16How about restoring the original comment system.
    • hmunkey, on 01/16/2008, -1/+24It loaded so slowly on popular threads.
    • dburka, on 01/16/2008, -3/+91I think a lot of people forget about the problems with the old comment system. We didn't go to replace the system just to make something new and shiny... we replaced it because it was deeply flawed.

      For one, the page load on very active pages was ridiculous -- sometimes you'd load over 600kb of HTML which would kill a lot of browsers. Secondly, people abused the tree structure and posted unrelated comments high on the page just to get noticed, which was annoying and especially confusing to less expert users. If you'll even remember, the old comment system didn't even let you respond in context in a comment thread, which I would consider a pretty major user experience flaw.

      In short, I think it's a golden past argument to say 'just go back'.
      • opencoder, on 01/17/2008, -0/+10I agree that the old system may not have been the best. But there are things that I don't like about the new system. For example, with the new system, The following is probable
        1. Comment 1
        - a. Reply a
        - b. Reply b
        --- i. Reply to Reply b
        ----- 1. Reply to Reply to Reply b
        - c. Reply C
        With this. by the time I read all the reply subsections, I get to reply C and it is already out of context from the original post. I understand that usually this is a user error with users not replying to the correct post. But when you have several nested replies that should easily belong on the same level, it can be a bother to read.

        I liked the old system because it was a lot like a forum system. I guess really that's what I want. I like the comment system that Neowin.net uses for their news stories.
    • relientkjon, on 01/17/2008, -0/+0seriously dunn, whats the point of goin back?
  • HeyChinaski, on 01/16/2008, -6/+552There is a bug with URLs. Not sure if you're fixing (or fixed) this. If you submit a long URL in a comment Digg truncates the URL displayed but maintains the actual href. If I click to edit the comment the truncated URL is converted back to plain text and leads to a dead link.
    • dfltr, on 01/16/2008, -3/+40nice catch, i'll file a bug for that one.
    • CraigJ, on 01/16/2008, -5/+4Ditto that. been burned many times by this till I figured it out.
      • Lythium, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4It only takes one time to catch it if you're paying attention =P But the original complaint stands, of course.
    • skyshock1, on 01/16/2008, -6/+5This has happened to me a few times.
    • BlaenkDenum, on 01/16/2008, -7/+1Yeah, though I believe this happens when you edit a comment that had URLs that were truncated, if that makes any sense. So, when you post URL the first time it shouldn't get truncated, but it does look truncated but the destination is fine. However, if you edit that comment, it doesn't let you edit the destination but instead shows the link text, the truncated link. Sorry if I don't make sense.
    • Humptydank, on 01/16/2008, -0/+14Can I suggest that people who are submitting bugs or other apparent functionality problems also submit the browser and OS they're using?
      • dfltr, on 01/17/2008, -2/+29eh, not really a priority. we pretty much only design for Firefox on OSX anyways.

        (kidding. really, really kidding.)
        • sfrench, on 01/17/2008, -11/+6What!? I only verify my stuff in Lynx.
      • HeyChinaski, on 01/17/2008, -0/+7The bug I mention definitely occurs in Firefox on XP, Vista and Ubuntu (7.10). Seems to me that it would happen on all environments.
        • fr34k5h0w, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4It does. Mac OS X 10.4/5 w/ Firefox and Safari
      • ccheath, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5don't they already know what browser and os we'er using from our useragent id?
    • EXreaction, on 01/17/2008, -1/+12Another bug that should be fixed, the way you try to strip out any HTML code is way over done, if I put a less than sign it can sometimes delete it and all of the text after it. Why not just replace lt and gt with the html entities? Then HTML could not be put in (unless you are, for some reason, converting html entities back before the code is shown) and our lt and gt signs would work.

      Also, instead of just graying out the submit comment button, could you also have it so that the same exact message could not be posted within 3 seconds or so of the previous? I've had it quite a few times before where I hit submit once, and it submits the message multiple times.
      • Jerky1312, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Not sure if its related, but sometimes when I link a story in a reply and go to my history to look up my comments and click on "see comment" it will go to the site I linked within the replay, instead of linking me to the replay I made. I hope I explained that well and I'm not the only one with this problem, because it has happened to me numerous times.
    • bingobongony, on 01/17/2008, -1/+3Actually, there is a LOT wrong with editing a comment. If you try to do a new paragraph in your original comment, you have to only hit the enter key once. This adds a blank line. However, if you go to edit this comment, every single line break is gone and it becomes one long paragraph. this can be very frustrating if you have written a few paragraph comment and yo now have to go back and make your edits, while also wasting your limited editing time trying to make sure you've put the paragraph structures back.
    • Rowan187, on 01/17/2008, -0/+2there's always short redirection sites like http://lenks.net if the problem isn't fixed
      • NinjaBoy, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Yeah but you should have to goto a different website to get something to work on the website you were already on.
  • iamlXl, on 01/16/2008, -6/+154Some comments disappear completely, which in turn wipes out all of the comments nested below it. I've noticed that sometimes happens when someone deletes their account, but I'm not sure if there are other reasons for it occurring. It would be nice if that was fixed.
    • jspegele, on 01/16/2008, -10/+43in other words . . . stop censoring comments
      • iamlXl, on 01/16/2008, -2/+43And if you DO censor a comment, don't wipe out EVERYTHING below it too so I wasted my time with a witty response.
      • cosmikat, on 01/17/2008, -3/+1I suspected censoring also, particularly when my comments are so far away from what the normal rabble thinks. My comments simply disappear from public view, although they are still listed under my profile. I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy on digg to delete anything that veers from mainstream thought.
        • bingobongony, on 01/17/2008, -4/+3What on earth are you talking about? 99% of Diggers think that the yfact that they are always ANTI-Mainstream makes htem better than others. so most of Digg's comments veer from mainstream. You have a better chance of being buried or censored if you post a mainstream thought.
        • Myonosken, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4Holy *****- Bingo got dugg up?!
    • derek20cali, on 01/16/2008, -20/+4***** pls!
      • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -0/+7Dude, the web is crawling with that *****. I like that i can read Digg without having to switch tabs every time my son walks into the room. Here's a suggestion, Make Digg 18+ so we don't have as many stupid posts like that one about *****.
    • triplehelix, on 01/17/2008, -2/+1i thought you were referring to the issue that spawns the "oh noes! i broked your comments"
      • iamlXl, on 01/17/2008, -1/+3That's annoying too, but somehow the "oh noes" thing always makes me laugh.
    • mcduckov, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1I have noticed this as well. It usually happens when i make a new post at the bottom of a long thread. The posts that disappear are innocuous so I don't think they are being deleted.
  • RyeBrye, on 01/16/2008, -120/+7Why not just put up a mock site with a functional prototype? Why make us watch a canned video?
    • jamminman, on 01/16/2008, -2/+47Because this is Digg; everyone would use the prototype and encounter a bazillion bugs and then whine about that even more.
    • dburka, on 01/16/2008, -0/+62We wanted to get this out in front of you guys at an early stage so we have time to adapt to your feedback. Taking time to code it just to demo it would have made this process even slower.
      • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -2/+7dburka, most of us understand the hard work you guys are putting into this but there will always be some assholes who are never happy.
        • kalphegor, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1True. Even that dburka said somewhere above that the first comment system was flawed, it looked good and simple to anyone. I spend more time reading comments then than I do now. Let's hope you find a way between good design, performance and usability.
      • RyeBrye, on 01/17/2008, -8/+1Well... maybe you should work on your video player. That player really sucks.

        I don't want to listen to a 30-second introduction to a demo video. The LEAST you can do is implement a fast-forward feature... and maybe a seek feature?

        Plus - seriously - Javascript is not brain surgery. You make it sound like it would be difficult to code up a functional prototype. That's crazy.
    • jspegele, on 01/16/2008, -1/+23I'm pretty sure the digg effect would kill that site in a minute.
    • RyeBrye, on 01/17/2008, -6/+2Wow... You want to get buried fast - just dare to question Digg...
  • konspence, on 01/16/2008, -106/+4Why isn't it implemented already? The one right now is terrible!

    This system looks REALLY nice though! The look's a lot cleaner.
    • nontitle, on 01/16/2008, -3/+19as long as there's a bury button and a digg button, I'm happy.
    • TheFiestyFaun, on 01/17/2008, -2/+4Things don't just happen. Someone has to do it, and that takes time.
  • sbrown, on 01/16/2008, -158/+7Fix the comment system!
  • aaronmcdonald, on 01/16/2008, -13/+361it's so great to be a part of a site where feedback actually gets noted and put into action! I think the new changes are great and I think its exactly what people want, nothing fancy just clean and simple!
    • lordtyros, on 01/16/2008, -39/+5Yeah, and it's only taken a year!
      • Daniel591992, on 01/17/2008, -13/+3... and a half!
      • Lythium, on 01/17/2008, -3/+17As the old quote goes: any project can be done well, quickly, and cheaply - but you only get two of the three. Considering that Digg is free to the users, it's going to take some time to get things done right. Deal with it.
    • wiifm69, on 01/17/2008, -3/+27Getting rid of the ever-so occurant horizontal blue bars is definitely a huge plus

      SPACE is good, makes text easier to read
    • ithasacarb, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1I love the way Digg listens to feedback as well. I seriously thought about just using my rss reader and forgetting all about digg when the audio ads started. But just a few days later all the audio ads were gone. Thank you Digg.
  • fuzed, on 01/16/2008, -17/+510Dugg for involving your community in the process of trying to make Digg a better place. Way to go Kevin and Co. Now I know why I keep coming back! The new changes look really good, especially being able to see just your own comments.
    • teamparadox, on 01/17/2008, -1/+12Agreed. Its not often you see a website listen to its community like digg does. The site isnt perfect but the way users are treated makes up for most of the problems and thats why I visit about 400 times a day and have since i joined way back when.
    • robotsongs, on 01/17/2008, -0/+3How come there's Kevin fanboys and not Jay fanboys? Aren't they pretty much both evenly responsible for the success of the site?
      • foreignwarren, on 01/17/2008, -0/+2probably cuz many are huge fans of the diggnation podcast... frankly I don't know much about Jay Adelson except that he's also responsible for all this digg goodness, maybe I'm just misinformed... or maybe Kevin and Alex can have Jay on Diggnation sometime (or if they have already...I just haven't seen it)...even if just to sit around and have beer with them! That would rock.
      • fuzed, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Sorry I'm not very familiar with all of the folks who run Digg. Kevin was the one who did the audio for the video, so I just made reference to him. I'm sure many people deserve thanks for their behind the scenes.
    • flirtacious, on 01/17/2008, -1/+0Who is Jay? I like him already.

      Now if only you guys could fix Digg! Perhaps you'll copy me... -_-
  • stergeron, on 01/16/2008, -20/+90The biggest thing is we should be able to change a thumbs up or thumbs down...I agree with TimmyGunz. I've defiintely had a few misclicks from time to time.
    • mikezs, on 01/16/2008, -6/+54You've posted an entire comment when a digg or a reply would have sufficed.
    • m0dded, on 01/17/2008, -15/+7You've posted an entire reply when throwing your computer in a bathtub would have sufficed.
    • RedWolves, on 01/17/2008, -12/+1On that same note it would be nice to undigg a story as well.
      • Sudzz, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5You can. Just click on My Profile and click undigg next to recent stories dugg.
      • Nitesmoke, on 01/17/2008, -1/+4Dude.
    • Ademuth, on 01/17/2008, -5/+1Sorry dude, i accidentally buried your comment.
    • elemmeno, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1They could just grey out the button you pushed and leave the other selectable. For example, if you give a comment a thumbs down, the thumbs up would still be selectable. Then you could click it back up to neutral if you wanted - both thumbs up and down selectable again. This way you could change your mind or correct a mistake without clumsy timers or having to go to your profile page or whatever.
  • norbiu, on 01/16/2008, -9/+341When I click "see comment" in my profile the comments are descending like this:

    comment 1
    - reply 2
    - reply 1

    instead of

    comment 1
    - reply 1
    - reply 2


    also ... make the textarea a bit bigger. or add a button to make it bigger, like in movable type.
    also(2) ... when I click submit comment there are extra p tags in there, which disappear once the comment edit count hits 0.
    • joestump, on 01/16/2008, -0/+34It's going to be bigger by default with larger font. It will also "grow" as you type more. This was all mentioned in the video I thought. If not, there you have it.
      • Me1000, on 01/17/2008, -0/+5please dont make it like when you type a message (private) on Facebook, where it increases in size by a single line, because I love the ability in Safari to resize text areas, and when I type a long message I want several white lines below it. So as you type it longer, can you make it so that there is always 3 (or more) blank lines below?
    • sundancekid503, on 01/16/2008, -1/+69I second that, it's kind of weird that the comments don't load in chronological order when you're viewing a subset.
      • SonicRush, on 01/16/2008, -2/+10Absolutely agreed.
      • HydrogenOxide, on 01/17/2008, -7/+2I agree, but it's not measured by commented first, but commented most recently.
    • betterth, on 01/16/2008, -0/+15I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice that weird chronological bug thing. I totally agree with what you said the ordering and the extra line breaks are my biggest comment pet peeve I'd say.
    • betterth, on 01/16/2008, -0/+24Another comment!

      A huge pet peeve, my biggest one (to null what I said above) is that when you click a comment in your profile to go back to it, and its at the maximum number of replies, it still has a "Reply to this comment" button on each persons name

      But, you're already at max depth. if you reply to a person, you see "Session has expired." or something similar. But really, all you have to do is copy your text, click "reply" for one level up, then paste the text and hit submit.

      At least give us a descriptive error message! But really, the "Reply to this comment" button doesn't appear if you're browsing around, only if you're going back to a comment that you've already posted!
      • ccheath, on 01/17/2008, -0/+2yeah not many people have figured that one out yet
        took me a bit... i didn't know how many levels of nesting there were
    • 0ceanic, on 01/17/2008, -2/+6another vote for the chronilogical issue.
    • NetDragonX, on 01/17/2008, -2/+2I disagree.

      Root comments should be ordered chronologically -- that just makes sense. The "flow" of the conversation should be root > reply > reply > reply all at different levels. If replies to comments ascended chronologically, I think more people would reply to child comments in the parent comment instead of clicking reply in the child. I vote keep it like it is!
    • mcduckov, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1That confused me at first too but I've come to like that view.
  • Supernova36, on 01/16/2008, -31/+19Looks great, nice and clean.
    • foreignwarren, on 01/17/2008, -2/+2strange that you're being dugg down for saying the NEW digg comments system looks great.......means a lot of ***** morons aren't actually watching the video....
  • optize, on 01/16/2008, -27/+16Looks a lot better...
  • lordtyros, on 01/16/2008, -9/+5601. Please enable a reddit style "Someone's replied to your comment" button at the top of the digg page.

    2. Allow users to set in their preferences the number of comments that should be loaded at a time. When I have to click to the next page, I usually don't.

    3. Implement some kind of text formatting ability. I'd like to be able to create a hyperlink or a bulleted list. When people try, they usually get a horrible mess with far too many or too few spaces or an incorrect link.
    • snapuswipe, on 01/16/2008, -1/+58I would really like to see number 1 implemented, just to give it more support
    • MalDON, on 01/16/2008, -2/+17I think Reddit has much more of a community feel as long conversations actually happen in the comments. It is really helpful that reddit alerts you when someone replies, albeit that the reddit system still needs some work when you click the context link.
      • ronoxQ, on 01/17/2008, -1/+12That's what I like most about reddit. Conversations last MUCH longer than on Digg, because you know immediately when to go back.
        • MalDON, on 01/17/2008, -13/+5Not only that, but there seems to be less douches on reddit. Everyone on digg is so single sided and afraid of a new viewpoint.
        • Lythium, on 01/17/2008, -0/+10^ that's not something the site developers can control =P
        • saisumimen, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4Plus, with popularity comes a large influx of trolls, spammers and "douches".
    • Sawta, on 01/17/2008, -17/+2I agree with 2 and 3, but disagree with number 1.
      Personally, I think that the possibility of longer lasting flame wars far out weigh the chance for long conversations. I am also not sure how useful it would be to go back to a discussion that you might have had months ago, as the information will probably be dated by that point. This would also make it much harder to distingush this website from similar one's, (reddit, slashdot, etc.)
    • LordofChaosIori, on 01/17/2008, -1/+16I was going to add this if it wasn't posted already but I'm glad that it has, I really want to know when someone replies to my comments, maybe an automated shout or the same "1 new fan!" type of announcement at the top of the page would work out well.
    • calon9, on 01/17/2008, -1/+7I was going to post something along your #2: From the video it mentions loading only 50 comments