What is Digg?16 Comments
- Cander, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Say hello to this weeks Digg bitch fest!
- nanobot001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think there's no question that what Aliwood was doing subverted the ideals of what Digg was about. Her posts were being dugg not for their newsworthy qualities, but more about the story around her
What I find possibly objectionable is how it *appears* that Digg *hasn't* let its own system of rules regulate itself ... as it has previously allowed itself to do.
I agree, if a story is crap, then it should be buried -- but there's only one way that it should be done, and that is by enough votes by the Community at large [incidentally, there is no way to know how many "buries" will bury a story].
Currently the disconnect here is that
a) None of her stories were buried -- therefore the community felt some value in her posts, but probably not in the way that most people value Digged news
b) Her profile and posts have not *just* been buried -- they've DISAPPEARED.
There is no internal policing method that I know of on Digg that allows the community to erase the identify and posts of a user.
But again, I think the controversy is that a girl accidentally gamed digg -- and then with the disappearance of her posts and profile, it seems like Digg Editors have decided what the value of her contributions are ... not the Community.
What I'd like is some kind of explanation by Kevin Rose and/or any of the staff, because I'm interested to know if it was Aliwood's decision to yank things, or Digg's. - yodasama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would like an explanation as well.
- nanobot001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1With only 15 diggs so far, this topic really hasn't recieved the type of attention I thought it would, so my feeling is that I doubt it.
I guess Diggers aren't really all that concerned about the state of Digg right now.
Hmm. :P - ziggystardust, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If enough people label it as crap it goes bye bye. That's how it works.
- kowgod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Speaking of Wikipedia, is it down? :0
;) - ziggyluvsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If I'm wrong, I will have to wait to read about on the front page.
I guess Colbert would call this is 'diggiality'. - ziggystardust, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is such garbage. Digg is a place in which people can submit valid stories for the purpose of bringing to light news that would otherwise be buried underneath stories deemed important by editors. Digg gives you, the community, the power to choose what stories make the front page. Digg is NOT a tool to be abused, duped and spammed for sake of getting an A in some class. If she had used Digg in the way it was meant to be used which is to submit a new story that's news and not spam us with garbage, maybe she would have earned her A and not been removed altogether.
This little post of yours is almost as bad as spam. - ziggyluvsu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Are many of these items considered spam? But I bet one of them has a good chance to make to the front page:
http://www.digg.com/search?s=kevin+rose
And how about this one? Tell me how this is different than what happened yesterday, if not worse?
http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Digg_if_you_Digg
Will these 'magically' disappear too? - ziggyluvsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can't find this story in the industry news/upcoming.
You tell me where it went. - ziggystardust, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm glad she is gone. If you like the garbage go use Netscape. Hell they'll even pay you to eat crap over there. I'll be here on Digg. A community that regulates abusive users. I am an American and I have freedoms. However if I abuse those freedoms rest assured that it will be regulated. Wikipedia lets the public edit the site however when that freedom is abused they block the users and or IP's. There needs to be regulation to offset abuse.
- ziggyluvsu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1And isn't that the beauty of the digg model? You are entitled to that opinion. Just as I'm entitled to think other 'newsworthy' items are spam. And ultimately it is the community that decides.
Not some behind-the-scenes anonymous EDITOR. If someone, besides the users, will be policing Digg, then the model is corrupt and we are all just wasting our diggs. - kowgod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1So, when we all bury this post, will you consider it to have magically disappeared?
- ziggyluvsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You're right.
An article about Google offering free wi-fi could have severely damaged the community.
By the way, how is 'Pam Anderson top search terms in lycos for a decade straight' enhancing the community? - ziggystardust, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1How? By what you stated earlier. "What's spam to you is news to me." It was properly submitted, not spam, news to someone and is part of the tech industry. I am simply stating that using Digg to post legitimately is OK as long as the content isn't exploiting the freedoms granted. Taking advantage of Digg is just plain wrong.
Now, conversely I understand what you are saying and where you are coming from. If an established, legit user simply disappeared for making an anti-Digg comment I would be worried and the first one to raise hell. BUT that didn't happen here. You can say what you want and post nearly anything and the community regulates that.
We need to understand that if a situation goes to the extreme of admins removing users than rest assured that it was to protect the integrity of the community you just joined.
Just relax and I am sure that Jay or Kev or even Dan will post on the blog the reasoning behind the users expulsion.
Until then all we are doing is arguing speculative points and assumptions. - ziggyluvsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If all it takes is a couple of power users to get a handful of friends to lame or spam a story before it has a chance to get legs, then how is that a fair system? This thing had pretty good momentum.
But I guess it's pointless to question the truth or the powers-that-be.
FYI, in my other monitor i have had the spy going. I did not see an overwhelming number of 'this is lame' or 'spam'. How many does it take i wonder to kill a story in an hour?
In my final thoughts, maybe the ali wood story didn't disappear because it was spam. Maybe it disappeared because it exposed cracks, in the the seemingly perfect model that is Digg. And maybe none of these other stories will make it either because, after all, we don't want to hurt the chances of the 'eventual' DIGG WORTHY news of a DIGG acquisition, do we?
Ahem, I am officially disillusioned.
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