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- Sedako, on 02/10/2008, -1/+133AMD is going to be in deep ***** if it doesn't start making chips that can match or beat Intel on the mid-high end. Nvidia also has a much better foothold in the GPU department. I really want to see AMD recover, because if they go down, there will be no one to compete against Intel/Nvidia and the prices will skyrocket.
- elusiveqc, on 02/10/2008, -11/+48Heard that Dell also dropped XP ........ dude, don't get a Dell.
- Wintermute426, on 02/10/2008, -3/+36How quickly people forget. Remember when the P4s were getting spanked by the Athlons? Remember when ATI cards were spanking Nvidia's? These things always go in cycles.
- novask, on 02/10/2008, -2/+30Well the new Phenom 9000 series is pretty competitive with Intel's Core 2 Quad E6600 (I'm not counting the other CPU's that are $1000+ each) but unfortunately just as they have caught up, Intel will be releasing the penryn. I do feel kind of bad for AMD especially since their getting their asses kicked both in the CPU and the GPU market.
AMD is partly to blame though. They should have been more aggressive when they had the lead on Intel for several years. - UtopiaInTheSky, on 02/10/2008, -0/+19He got busted with pot, and he now works as a waiter in a restaurant.
I'm serious. - Spuy767, on 02/10/2008, -6/+25Unfortunately, there's just no point in Dell shipping AMD machines. There is not cost benefit on the low end apparently, and AMD just can't compete on the high end with Intel chips. Dell isn't ceasing shipping all AMD chips and apparently hasn't signed a new exclusivity agreement with Intel, but simpy doesn't have a compelling reason to use AMD chips.
- Murdats, on 02/10/2008, -1/+20says the guy with the second comment/
- Spuy767, on 02/10/2008, -3/+22Doubtful as it would be a mediocre CPU and a mediocre GPU on the same die. It would possibly fare wel in the portable market, but no where else. Most processors need to be multi core today as it is.
- inactive, on 02/10/2008, -8/+25Oh well, the core architecture is spanking amd now anyways,
- JasonMaloney101, on 02/10/2008, -0/+17weed
- Motocompo, on 02/10/2008, -1/+16Well, don't feel too bad for AMD, this is a capitalist society, so competition is good to get AMD on the ball again making kick ass chips
- Volans, on 02/10/2008, -2/+16I still plan on backing the underdog. We need the competition.
- kije, on 02/10/2008, -1/+14Dude, you got served.
- bradleyland, on 02/10/2008, -1/+14It's not a matter of being a fanboi. It's a matter of not wanting Intel to have a complete strangle hold on the CPU market. Are you interested in paying $500 for an entry level processor? That's where things will go without competition.
- estacado, on 02/10/2008, -1/+13But this time AMD is in real trouble. There is a very real possibility that AMD will go bust, leaving the door open for a newcomer to try and beat Intel.
- Spuy767, on 02/10/2008, -5/+17Digg me down AMD fanboys but I don't really care about what CPU's a machine has. I just built a computer with an AMD chip for a lady to give to her kid for christmas. I'll use whatever chip best fits a situation, and curently, at least for Dell, AMD doens't have any chips that are a better fit than Inte chips in any particular market. AMD is probably still on the menu, but only as a BTO option for fanboys.
- Mejogid, on 02/10/2008, -0/+12It's based on diggs (the number, frequency and 'reputation' of the diggers) - it has nothing (or little) to do with the number of comments.
- grapesofbaath, on 02/10/2008, -0/+10AMD processors still have a better price point on everything but the highest range processors, I don't know what you guys are talking about. I was about to get an Intel E6400 a couple weeks ago, but according to Tom's Hardware, an AMD 5200 was completely equivalent, and 100 dollars cheaper on Newegg.
- wolferz, on 02/10/2008, -0/+10because AMD CPUs are still cheaper than Intel, and HP is all about cheap computers.
- YojimboJango, on 02/10/2008, -1/+11I see this in a different light. AMD chips give you the best bang for your buck and the mid and low end. That's why they haven't been touched in the business class machines; people that know what they're doing (your admins) buy AMD to keep costs down.
In the personal class they're removing the cheap (and more competitive) AMD machines in favor of pushing their more expensive line of Intel machines that net them bigger profit margins. They're still making the low end AMD machines for sale in brick and mortar stores because (according to the article) this is where they've determined that people go that just want a cheap computer.
This is also a market play to negotiate a better contract between Dell and AMD. Something will be put on the table like 'If we get better profit margins on the AMD chips we'll be inclined to put them back on the web.' Then the two lawyers will go back and forth and some accountant at AMD will do the math and give Dell a little better deal.
It seems stupid and trite, but this is how business is done. - signorescuro, on 02/10/2008, -1/+11Totally agreed. I think the reason why Dell is dumping AMD is they are falling behind and keep pushing back their new cpus that are needed to compete with C2D and C2Q
- one1plus1one, on 02/10/2008, -1/+9Agreed. Maybe AMD should alo think about making processors within a nieche market -- like for portable devices and cell phones, to help fuel an overall come-back for the company. (It worked for Apple.)
Otherwise if AMD goes down, then we'll have to wait for a revolution in Nanotechnology to make Microprocessing manufacturing cheap, in order to have competition again. - asdfrewq, on 02/10/2008, -2/+10I think you'll find that whatever chip offers the best performance for its price will appeal to gamers. Right now, intel has AMD beat in that department.
- Markus123, on 02/10/2008, -0/+8The Q6600 was released in January 07 (B3 Stepping), the G0 stepping was in July/August last year. So it's over a year old.
- leaflord, on 02/10/2008, -6/+12I'm just waiting for AMD to release their "Fusion" processor (one core CPU, one core GPU)... It might also get AMD back up again.
- tapo, on 02/10/2008, -0/+6Er, really well in embedded devices, and in every major console this generation? (Xbox 360, Wii, PS3)
POWER, PowerPC and Cell are all really good chips, they're just useless in a desktop machine because they're incompatible with x86. - majmera, on 02/10/2008, -0/+6Agree with estacado. I don't think AMD's situation is comparable to Intel's situation for a few years. Intel always had the larger market share and AMD was gaining some of it. Intel still has the larger market share and AMD is losing some of its own.
Intel was in a much better position to handle that than AMD is currently. But it would be sad if it went back to Intel being a virtual monopoly. - praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -1/+7What's up with this new trend of people posting comments complaining about how something was front-paged?
- m00nstone, on 02/10/2008, -0/+6AMD's performance has been a real bummer. Intel's stranglehold on the market will only be bad for customers. Remember, more competition means better prices and better products.
- Typhoon2009, on 02/10/2008, -6/+11My intel E6600... or my friend's Q6600... or my other friend's E6750 want to have a few words with you.
- Elranzer, on 02/10/2008, -0/+5Wii, PS3 and 360 tell us that PowerPC is going pretty strong.
- vrillco, on 02/10/2008, -1/+6AMD has been doing nothing but eating dicks since the X2 (939) was released. Phenom is a non-starter, they're trailing so far behind Intel, one has to wonder why they even bother. The ATI merger was even worse: they went and bought the underdog. So now they have the weakest GPUs to go with their weakest CPUs. The semiconductor industry has always been about offense, not defense. There's nothing worth protecting when you're the loser.
- Shadow503, on 02/10/2008, -1/+6You mean Quad Q6600, and I'd hope they'd be able to compete with a year old chip.
- YojimboJango, on 02/10/2008, -1/+5I bet these are the friends that believe that it takes a $1000 computer to run crysis on medium.
Aka people that put in a new hard drive and now think they know how to build a computer. Enjoy paying out your ass. You get exactly what you deserve. - BuzzFriendly, on 02/10/2008, -0/+4They may have dropped XP on home and home office but small business still offers all flavors of XP and Vista.
- misfit410, on 02/10/2008, -0/+4LOL, ATI had the best video cards hands down for quite a few generations running, the 8800 was the first Nvidia card in quite a while to truely trump what ATI had, this entire merger really set ATI back and they need time to recover, but they are not going anywhere. AMD still has a large portion of the marketshare, because even though C2D is the best thing going, the X2 is so insanely inexpensive it's still going to be bought up like mad by anyone who wants a cheap computer.
- novask, on 02/10/2008, -0/+4Yes my bad. But its not a year old chip, the architecture may be a year old but the processor itself was released in August of last year.
- gblackbox, on 02/10/2008, -0/+4Perhaps you missed the part about not turning a profit.
3.4 billion in the hole in 2007 alone. - mihnea008, on 02/10/2008, -4/+8Read the first paragraph ppl:
" Dell Inc. has stopped selling many computers with processors from Advanced Micro Devices Inc. on its Web site, although it will continue selling some through retailers. "
The news is MISINTERPRETED !!! DELL just doesn't offer AMD on their website, but they continue to manufacture and sell computers with AMD chips.
READ THE REAL STORY !!! The title here on digg is BOGUS - elmetald00d, on 02/10/2008, -1/+4whatever happened to that guy.
- tomz17, on 02/11/2008, -0/+3The e6400 is way overpriced... you can get an e6750 for less. --but-- the much larger issue right now is that a $50 e2140 can smoke almost any AMD chip with very easy overclocking on almost any socket 775 board with almost any DDR2 memory, with the stock cooler included in the box!!! In my eyes, this is why AMD is losing it's performance/dollar status among computer enthusiasts!
- InorganicMatter, on 02/10/2008, -0/+3Haha, you actually believe Fusion isn't vaporware?
- chuck0supatruck, on 02/10/2008, -0/+3you are correct as of last week even. I had just recently bought a new dell and they were offering XP Friday before last.
- renegadeafk, on 02/10/2008, -0/+3AMD had the edge in multicore before the core2, Pentium D's were getting spanked by Athlon X2's.
- 0011002, on 02/10/2008, -0/+3Source : http://digg.com/tech_news/Intel_sued_by_Univ_of_WI ...
where that digg article links to: http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/07/intel-sued-for- ... - gherikill, on 02/10/2008, -0/+3No Cyrix is an IBM owned company
- bioskope, on 02/10/2008, -1/+4my penis is bigger than all of yours and it came free
- grimward, on 02/10/2008, -0/+2No, what he was trying to say is that Dell is trying to net more cash inflow by opting for the more expensive intel chipsets and processors, not that there's any difference in quality with the processors. AMD works just as fine as Intel processors do, it's only that they cast about half the price and have another logo.
Also, seriously this is Dell we're talking about, makers of some of the most crappy computers I've ever had the misfortune to use, especially with the fact that what you're getting is mostly bulk material which might be or not be compatible with the other bulk material crap that you've got in your machine. (the only areas where Dell doesn't use bulk stuff is on their mobos and processors, because they learned that quickly once they got burned) - pintomp3, on 02/10/2008, -0/+2i was at a dell roadmap briefing and they will continue to have amd machines in the optiplex line. the 740 will get a refresh in 2nd q with amd's latest.
- LeeSoong, on 02/10/2008, -0/+2AMD still going strong in Compaq / HP computers . . .
HP - always seem to have better prices than Dell... -
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