What is Digg?89 Comments
- Tanglefuzz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+146Why the hell is everything that has a voting system, called a 'digg-clone'. This is getting ridiculous.
- cgjamj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+52@tanglefuzz
Agreed 100%. Netscape and the likes are indeed digg clones. Just because something has voting/ranking system does not qualify it as a digg clone. - elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+50"America Wants You to Make it Suck Less With Digg Clone in 2008"
- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44Digg didn't invent voting
- sickanimations, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37@tanglefuzz:
I agree. As much as I like digg, you fanboys need to stop jerkin' it to your God, Kevin Rose, and realise that he didn't invent the concept that popular content is more appealing to people.
What you're saying is as crazy as saying "KEVIN ROSE COPIED GOOGLE BECAUSE GOOGLE SHOWS THE MOST POPULAR PAGES ON THE FRONT! BUT INSTEAD OF USING A PAGERANK FORMULA HE JUST USES VOTES! ZOMG!111one ROFFLECOPTER etc. etc."
... and yes. I know I will be BLAMMED like some ***** stick-figure 25-frame animation on NewGrounds. - rousehouse, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23I bet most of Dell's customers will never know or care about this site. Just like most of them will never know or care about Linux, Open Office, or most of the suggestions on this site. Good place for geeks to vent at Dell though.
- shitthisfook, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18I wonder, do customers get credit/compensation if Dell decides to use their brilliant idea? It's only fair.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Even if ideastorm is a digg "copycat" is a great way to listen to what the customers want, is the "Democracy" in action that digg promotes, thats the base that make it succeed.
- blaghness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I think its a good idea, at least they are attempting to use their user input. Also, its very amusing that all the top comments are about how linux should be used and open office, etc etc. The open source junkies are great :)
- Flex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6At least the top ideas promoted on the site are good ones.
Pre-Installed Linux | Ubuntu | Fedora | OpenSUSE | Multi-Boot
Pre-Installed OpenOffice | alternative to MS Works & MS Office
NO EXTRA SOFTWARE OPTION
Have Firefox pre-installed as default browser
National Call Centers
Laptop Web Cam
Etc... - Bull3t, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Pfft, what is wrong with that? So many things mimic each other now, it is almost not work posting about. Yeah, it can get a little annoying - but if the style works then why rant about it? Bury me if you wish, but it is true.
- bbardlbradd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I guess if you want your money's worth you could give the option of shipping linux, but is linux the answer? I don't know. I think it's more, Microsoft needs to put out a product that's worth the money they so badly want to save.
I registered to say "Get some ***** ENGLISH SPEAKING people up in your customer service that won't ask "Is your mouse laying on an even surface" when I'm telling them my sound card is dead. - asherwood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is basically a way of dell getting everyone to give them ideas for new developments without paying them for this.
- pbaehr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Agreed, let's see if we can steer Dell into the ground. After their mp3 players flop, maybe we can get them into the console market. Wii? PS3? XBox360? Meet DelltendoStation360.
- Dean129, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Let's just hope the little kids from Digg don't start spamming the Dell site now.
- drwiii, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@bobothn: kuro5hin.org was doing front-page voting years before Digg was even born. So, no, Digg did not invent it.
- majortom1981, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well dell is actually using the advice. On their www.direct2dell.com blog they stated they listened to it and the put out a lattitude windows less laptop with freedos because the people wanted it.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5wtf??
why does everything with a mechanism even remotely resembling some sort of public voting gets labeled a digg ripoff / clone? digg is nice and cool, I've been visiting digg for many months, but there is no need to obsess over it. - shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5But we're not voting on a law, we're gauging demand.... demand doesn't get less because some people like a product while others hate it, demand is all the people that want the product... and thats all (your analogy sucks)
- scotticus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And Henry Ford didn't even invent the car... he just showed us how to mass produce them.
- requinox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Agreed. Digg elitists make me cringe. (The fact that the mentality exists is scary)
- shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5if the system is about gauging demand for something what would be the point of allowing people to vote stuff down?
- Kwipper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You want to improve Dell, then here is how you do it.
a.) Stop using proprietary hardware! For example. When I was working on other people's computer, occasionally I would come across a customer who owned a Dell and wanted to upgrade the power supply. Well this could not be done because the power supply wasn't a standard sized one. It was one of Dell's design. This made finding parts a real hassle since I would have to get them through Dell.
b.) Just install the Operating System and nothing else. We don't want your software. All it does is bog down the system and it's foolish to have it there anyways.
c.) I love the idea that you guys are embracing linux flavor OS's. However please give the customer a clear and concise PRO's and CON's difference between the Windows Based OS flavors and the Linux Based OS flavors. Then let them decide.
d.) I am unsure if you are capable of doing this, but how about giving out free technical support. One of the biggest complaints I hear from Dell is that dell charges you an arm and a leg for technical support.
That's all I can think about for now. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Get rid of craplets, raise prices to compensate if necesary. But no Windows OS should ship with more than one tray icon and three things in appwiz.cpl
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Someone post cheaper prices, i'm sure it'll take over the #1 spot.
- Kendal, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/63551/Bring_out_an_MP3_player_to_beat_the_iPod
If this IdeaStorm post gets enough votes, maybe Dell will actually make a turd-like MP3 player called the Brown Banana. Vote for it, see what happens... - jfritz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm extremely tired of people submitting digg stories which link to blogs which link to blogs which link to blogs...
- crossmr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Because demand has nothing to do with net votes?
If 100 people want something, and 50 people don't, who cares about the people who don't? 100 people still do, 50 of those people aren't going to turn around and not buy it because 50 other people said they didn't want it. - bcrafts, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4So, feedback and suggestions are bad? I shouldn't tell company X, who has the resources to build product Y, that they should?
- TokenUser, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@SniperSlap
"You guys are just part of the MS fanboy advertising brigade."
Really? Why are all my SERVERS Linux based? Why do I recommend Linux based SERVER solutions to my client base? Because they are rock solid, stable solutions for backend processing applications.
Dell should offer Linux as a desktop option - I am not arguing that. I am stating that the demand is being falsely represented. Besides, WHICH desktop Linux implementation/permutation would you recommend? Care to start another argument? Linux preinstalled is great for people like yourself who can make updates and modifications themselves - but you do that anyway, and will probably blow away the default OS as soon as you open the box to install your flavour of Ubuntu.
Duping a soccer mom into buying Linux because it is cheaper is false economy when they go to install Quicken, or little Johnny want to play the latest and greatest DirectX10 accelerated game, and they can't get the system to work.
Linux advocacy has its place, it should be an option, but getting a "clean" system should be cheaper than one preinstalled with Window - and at the moment that is way down the list of votes because of the Linux fanboys trying to push their drug onto the unsuspecting masses.
Vote me down - you have that option here. Its part of being a democracy. - Monstanl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A few years ago a voting system was called "Hot or Not" and over the radio they called it "Make it or Break it". Digg users are overrating the system, but i must admit digg is most used (inter-) active site on the whole world wide web. And if I'm right the digg system has more special functions to track (upcoming/new) popular items then any other voting system
- SniperSlap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@tokenuser & qualar
You guys are just part of the MS fanboy advertising brigade. Face it, the best argument you've been able to come up with is freedom of suppresion, which if I recall isnt' a right anywhere.
Consequently, in the whole mix of MS vs. Linux, the best argument you have is "you guys just hate Microsoft and that makes you blind and stupid".
I think what makes YOU guys blind and stupid is that you don't realize we have legitimate reasons we can back up with numbers and examples to prove why Linux benefits people better. All you have is persuasive advertising and figures you'd rather not quote. Never once do I hear you MS fanboys going toe to toe with the facts. All I've ever heard is recriminations of how hateful Linux promoters are.
Well, that really doesn't cut the beef after all is said & done. Because you still have the landslide of proof showing that Microsoft writes ***** inefficient software, invasive software and charges way too much for it.
Go enjoy your ***** "me too me too" 3D desktop, but rest assured it is a half-measure compared to what it is attempting to compete with. Remember that everything done Microsoft is done crappy as compared to what you get elsewhere. They do it just crappy enough so that bucketheads like you can come out and say "Look look, see see, we have it nya nya, Windows can do it."
Pure *****. Let me misspell a word so terribly in here that you'll argue about that in response instead of the facts I brought forward, wouldn't want to make your dumb heads explode: yesturday. - AttackGypsy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I work for a call center that has to refer people to Dell all the time, simply because we won't troubleshoot their hardware problems. For liability reasons.
I've heard and dealt with, nightmares coming out of there.
I had one woman call, literally crying, because Dell wiped her system, without backing up the files. Her files? Pictures of her grandson that had been killed in Iraq.
I grabbed my supervisor, told him what happened, and I told him I might be on this call for hours. If nothing else but for common human decency. He just smiled at me and told me to "Take as long as you need, I'll make it good."
Took about 4 hours, but we were able to find her backups, and get everything restored, as well as getting her net connection back up and her email set up again. I hung up with her, clocked out for my lunch (now 2 hours late), got back, and my Manager, my Director, and the VP in charge of Customer Service were all at my supervisor's desk, waiting for me, and all smiling. Yeah, I got a few pats on the back for that one.
So yes, I loathe Dell. Just for making that poor grandmother cry like that. Broke my heart hearing it. - donjaime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Digg links to news and video content on the web. IdeaStorm is an idea/suggestion submission framework. They are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
Digg did not invent voting. - phantom_mullet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2C'mon guys...imitation is the best form of flattery. It's not like they're gonna kill digg anyway.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Are they ***** serious with 80,000 votes on one story?
About Linux nonetheless? I thought people smart enough to use Linux stayed away from the likes of computer manufacturers...
Wow. More people there than Digg... - Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually the dell system does not suck
its a good idea
what better way to get innovation
then to ask people who will buy your products - noddyxoi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And also " I do not want to use software support!".
- Clp727, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1DELL could start by bring their jobs back to America, then hire American citizens to fill the positions. Then they could start using quality components in their systems.
- nx01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Who is Less?
- radiofrequency, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's going to be difficult to make DELL suck less as long as they keep selling a computer with proprietary $200 software from Microsoft for less than the same hardware with free, non-proprietary and open source software installed.
- Kestral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The Motley Fool was doing "Diggs" many years ago for their posts, only they called it "Recommendations".
- cecil_t, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm all for not overusing terminology, like calling every other web page a "blog", but calling Dell's idea site a "digg clone" isn't much of a stretch. Yes digg did not invent voting, but the interface provided has a distinct look which the Dell site mimics. Other companies are doing this user-submitted idea-voting thing as well:
http://ideas.webmail.us/
The webmail.us one is in fact run on the pligg engine, an open-source implementation of digg. - Sumyunguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here is the RSS feed
http://www.dellideastorm.com/xml/rss?tags_string=&menu_string=hot - u2wedge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1looks like the Linux fanboys have a new place to hang out. And if Dell needs those 16000 extra users, they have bigger problems.
- izzie2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Look, Henry Ford made a car one time.Everyone loved it and found ways to make more.
No one man owns an idea,he just comes up with it.
Digg will never be cloned because of the dynamic structure they incorporate.
They change with the tide.
Other so called clones (they wish) just want to take the core idea and run with it.
Long live Digg. - Kwipper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I already have.
- ipodman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders."
Michael Dell re: How to Fix Apple (1997).
http://news.com.com/Dell+Apple+should+close+shop/2100-1001_3-203937.html
My, how the times have changed. - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Article direct link: http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/feb2007/id20070223_399988.htm
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@tanglefuzz:
If people had read the original version of this story that I had submitted (which actually links to the site directly and not another blog), you'd see why this was being called a ''digg clone'': on the Dell website, they themselves call their site "part Digg.com".
http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Dell_Admits_to_Copying_Digg_com -
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