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- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -7/+93The MSM can't ignore sites like Digg forever. They are finally accepting the reality that people in this digital age want choice. Props to CNN for giving Digg the coverage. If we (the Digg community) keeps spell checking our posts and remain civil towards one another we stand to gain even more street cred. Dugg.
- databyss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+37"If we (the Digg community) keeps spell checking our posts..."
Unfortunately spell check can't fix everything. - Quarks, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39The picture of him is hilarious.
This should be an eye-opener for some ignorant users:
"Another objection is that crowds aren't actually all that wise, that as Digg expands into other realms of news, it's likely to take on the flavor of a supermarket tabloid." - Wolfboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34Digg depends on the so-called "MSM" for much, maybe most of its submissions. And Digg helps the MSM by sending eyeballs to their web sites.
- wired4u, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26It seems obvious that Kevin Rose will sell Digg eventually, maybe in 5 years maybe in 6 months. I am sure everyone here knows how fast a tech company can go down hill. If someone offered me a truck full of money for one of my project I would accept it and move on to the next bigger and better thing, which seems what Krose dose. I just hope digg is not bought by aol, ewww (shivers)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Take away the MSM and Digg would be nothing, got to remember that at the end of the day it's the journalists (like myself) working for the MSM that go out, research, take photos, conduct interviews, write it up etc
I don't think it's Digg's intention to compete with the MSM
I'm not disputing the Digg system, it works; but it does so alongside traditional outlets, not in spite of them - CasetheAce, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23ummmm
correct me if im wrong but MSM means main stream media, and has nothing to do with MSN or microsoft - dimatt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Amazing 180,000 registered user and only about 1/100th of them are actually active
- yonbeastie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18The article acknowledges one key problem with digg in it's current form: users submitting garbage. But I have to say, if you don't digg for stories and just stick to the main page, 9 days out of 10 it's very worth reading. That's more than I can say about Slashdot and the like...
I'm glad I hopped on the digg bandwagon when I did. YEEE BOOYEEE!! - theone3, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20Is it just me, or did CNN just accuse everyone of being an idiot?
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Many people love to register with a site to check it out, but few become long-term members. It is a constant struggle for any online community. Our attention span is very short and made even shorter by the vast amount of choice we have to select from.
- mikew101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Just a note, but this article actually is in Business 2.0 a business magazine this month. B2 is a subsidiary of Time Warner, and falls under the CNN/Time Division. So to give the right credit Business 2.0 is actually the ones that are hip to web 2.0. If you check out their website they actually have quite a few stories about web 2.0
- diggAddict, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Right on, you hit it man.
I think with the changes destined for Digg we should see an environment that will foster a more mature approach to discussing news stories and get more respect from others out there.
Digg on Digg! - antgoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Some people register to for the sole purpose of digging sites, not searching for and submitting them. Think about how many dupes there's be if the entire populace of digg was submitting. People already freak out when a story is "duped."
It's the massive voting populace that really makes digg work. - codemac, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Several pokes at Rose, but overall a good article.
Then again, I don't think any digg user is going to find new information here. - kwilliam71, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12This article was also printed in April's Business 2.0.
- gamabunta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"We're not really at the point where we want to sell, but that's not to say we're crazy either. If someone comes to the table and throws down a huge sum of money, it's like, OK--we'd just have to be sure it was the right fit."
Wonder what his selling point is. - Psykus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10This part was new to me:
"Right now, it's hard-locked into a set of categories pertaining to tech, but in the future we're going to allow free-form tagging of information to let people define their own subcategories." (Thus the influence of Del.icio.us.)" - burnt1ce85, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Well... CNN must have noticed digg's greatness since digg provides them half of their traffic.
jk. - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8There needs to be some type of trust filtering on digg that helps you weigh votes by your own variables.
- codemac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Maybe instead of just having friends, you have friends and trusted users. So for every story you can have just raw diggs, and also trusted diggs. I assume your friends would also be trusted. You would only track your friends with the new digg stuff, but the trusted users help you weed out bad articles. Then you can have 2 front pages, a 'raw' front page and a 'trusted' front page.
That probably shouldn't be the exact layout of things, but I like the idea of being able to value certain diggs over other diggs. This also helps get rid of fake accounts or spam diggers easily because you can just look at your "trusted page" or "valued digg page" or even have trusted diggs equal 2 diggs instead of everyone else's one digg for a single page with all diggs weighed in. - squeevey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I didn't even read the article that far, but are you seriously surprised? There are definitely some smart minds here. However, when you have a site run "by the people for the people" you end up with something that is going to emulate THE people. While there are some cool diggs, there is a lot of ***** stories that end up on top. It shows a lot of times people just want to say
"That was me man".
"I was the guy that got that article up there" (even though it could be the worst article of all times).
Who were the people that voted it up? The digg community.
So while we always are cheering, and high-fiving every time another digg story comes up on a different news site, we have to also accept that the bad diggs are also created by the users too. - gwjc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I know, just because the writer seems fixated with Negroponte everyone else is supposed to be as well. Typical CompSci snob.. all due respect to Mr. Negroponte but it's not like he's Alan Turing.
- Wolfboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The picture of Kevin is funny... and makes me wonder:
Does Kevin Rose come to deliver newspapers or to bury them? - hammerattack, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Are we talking about the American votor, or Digg users? Wait, it's the same either way.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's funny how quickly people grow up. I remember watching him a couple years ago on TechTV, and when he was "demoted" to consultant when G4 dismantled the Screensavers. Now he's a few steps away from being a very rich man. Good luck, Kevin.
- codemac, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8The idea is that Kevin is burying the newspaper with digg. I'm almost 100% sure CNN did that intentionally.
In reterospect, Kevin might just like digging holes in the yards of those he's delivering the newspaper to. Yea.. that's what I would do if I had VC's dropping millions of $'s at my feet. Deliver newspapers and deface lawns. - PBoiIceBerg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Going beyond tech can be good for Digg, I'm just afraid of the myspace crowd coming in hordes. I don't want to see a front page filled with stories about Brad and Angelina, basically gossip. Hopefully, Kevin will implement a feature where you can essentially block certain categories. Possibly even have separate sites like tech.digg.com, sports.digg.com, etc.
- HPSauce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Meh, those diggs (sorry) at Kevin just prove that ordinary media is childish. They can't refrain from looking at a new type of press coverage that is decided by the community, without getting pissy about it.
Steering off topic a bit, but the reason why I got more into digg was because of its podcast show, diggnation. Were it not for two ordinary blokes talking about stories while have a beer and a laugh about it, I would never had got into the digging atmosphere. - RobGamble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Alan who?
:-) - MOJIRA, on 05/17/2008, -0/+6Yeah I suppose, but I think digg IS the next big thing. Digg may be in its middle ages in the uber internet community but its still a fetus in the mainstream world (and thats where it counts sorry to say). When digg expands into other categories and allows its users to even choose those categories it will indefinately attract more mainstream internet users.
On the other hand, digg may not be the next big thing, but its definately DOING the next BIG thing.
I can't wait until television completely merges with internet and reporters and news organizations are forced to take a more digg like approach to news, or maybe it'll start with local news first. - TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5CNN is right, actually. Crowds aren't all that wise. I don't have the link on me, but that article on a room full of people playing pong illustrates that fact more scientifically.
I know of one particlar company that has assumed "Bragelina" status on Digg already, and I'm sure you guys know exactly what I'm talking about so I won't go into it.
Fact of the matter is that as a group, we are idiots. How many comments have you gave the thumbs down to just because you didn't agree with it? That's one such stupid thing to do. - diggAddict, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Yes
We need a way for the masses to RATE those who post (similar to yelp.com) so we can prevent fanboy wars and trolls from taking over good discussions.
We also need a way to prevent users from spamming Digg and creating massive numbers of fake digg accounts that are used to coordinte a "mass-digg" of their own digg submissions.
We need a way to make sure that one human gets one (or very few) digg account and that person cannot work with a group of friends to coordinate a mass digging session to skew the numbers.
Also we need a way to bury stories effectively that never should have made the front page.
I beleive Digg can improve - we just need more rules and technology to enforce it!
Digg on baby!
- tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4When they sell Digg, I dont think it will be the same. I'm not liking this at all to tell you the truth. I like the Indie/underground feel Digg use to have just for us tech fans.
- yonbeastie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Nope. University of Nevada, Las Vegas. Why do I know that? I watched too much techtv back in the day.
- tryferos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think "seriously" is a relative term. With the growth of Digg going into many different types of news & media, I think the concept of news will be changed. You can search the web and find tons of sites talking about the war in Iraq, or the latest stock market info. Digg is expanding what is considered news, or at least informative, and its success only shows that there is an audience that likes seeing a fun story about a Lego aircraft carrier or an article about useful apps.
- Psykus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yes, I knew they were going to add more categories at some point, I didn't know that they would be user definable or "taggable".
- veritech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If i'm honest i will miss some of the silly stories if we get to a point where we stick to our mantra, however i guess there is always fark.com
- RockDoggy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Speaking for myself, I read Digg daily because it brings me items from many sites - a large quantity of places I don't care to browse on my own on the odd chance there might be a news item I want to see.
I've never submitted a story to Digg, and I don't recall ever posting a comment.
Until now. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Not that Rose intends for Digg to restrict itself to news. Imagine being able, for example, to use Digg to explore the popularity of consumer products such as cell phones or plasma TVs--to be able, as Rose put it, "to drill down among your set of friends or the masses and see their opinions."
Holy *****! YES!! I would LOVE this!! down with CNET, I want to know what actual consumers think. - razorsharp84, on 10/12/2007, -10/+13would you rather read FOX news?
- YesWorld, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"Adelson%u2019s plan is to grow the Digg community beyond its current base of technology news and content to cover a wide variety of news topics that emulate the various 'sections of the newspaper with a wide audience of everyday Internet users. This will be achieved through the Digg web site..."
http://www.fastcompany.com/fast50_06/profile/?adelson466
http://digg.com/technology/Digg_CEO_Jay_Adelson_Makes_Fast_Company_Fast_50_List
Please think twice before posting "what does this has to do with tech?" comments. - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10There are people that still get their news from CNN, don't be picking on them. ;)
- Kev585, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I remember the good old days of digg when Kevin Rose didn't want his name attached to it, as to deter fanboys. Seems he gave up on that, as evident by the picture of him accompanying the article, fanboy fodder if I ever saw it.
- Wolfboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Mainstream media are terrified of Digg? Not likely. They can't fear what they never heard of. And yes, most of the MSM -- most of the public in general, have not heard of Digg.
Even if they are aware of Digg, they only thing they might fear is how many advertising dollars Digg might get instead of them. Of course, that fear would be eased by the amount of traffic a Digg front page story might send to their web sites.
Mainstream media seeking to offer solutions to problems?
Some newspapers tried some of this in the early to mid 1990s. They called it "civic journalism" and it was a bit of a fad among the media. I haven't heard much about it in a long time. There are still some web sites that talk about it. Some media outlets still do some form of it without sticking the faddish name to it. - mikew101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Your right. Other then the fact that CNN is in the same division of Time Warner as B2 then this story wouldn't even be on CNN. Business 2.0 did the interview and wrote the story. They are often writing stories related to web 2.0ish companies like digg, reddit, and others
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6There are plenty of other garbage stories such as reposted videos, blog spam and videogame rumors. It is all too easy to hit the "digg" button. It almost becomes a muscle reflex.
- dgritsko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3from TFA:
"Digg in my mind is only 10 percent complete," Rose said.
is anybody else as excited about the other 90% as i am? digg just keeps getting better and better with each new feature added.
go digg! - GuiBou, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Let's spread the word...and they will come...as soon as Digg starts to show news from other subjects (sports, politics, etc) You'll see the number of users growing insanely more than now. It's planned for sure. Is it this year ?
- x_out, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ok.. Jason Schwartzman?!?! Columnists are too funny sometimes! Great Digg though! and congrats Kevin, Owen, and Jay. You guys really are Visionaries.
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