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- puter, on 09/30/2008, -2/+79That is a terrible title. Makes it sound like a spy bill, not a bill that benefits us.
- Arshen, on 09/30/2008, -0/+33Wow, this was something I thought I was about to be outraged about...
- Benjigga, on 09/30/2008, -4/+25I'm just waiting for CERN's "Super-Internet" to become publicly available.
Silly scientists, internet is for kids! - DestroyFascism, on 09/30/2008, -1/+17They already do...
- Laminarcissus, on 09/30/2008, -0/+14In Japan.
- crownedgriffin, on 09/30/2008, -4/+16Just because it's a post about the government and/or a law doesn't mean it's automatically a bad thing.
- chipotlehero, on 09/30/2008, -1/+10How does it say so many zip codes have 7 or more high speed providers. In the Chicago area where it claims as such, theres RCN Comcast and ATT DSL (if that even counts). Unless they're counting tiny ISPs that not everyone can get, I think that's a bit off...
- goffy59, on 09/30/2008, -0/+8***** title.
- greevar, on 09/30/2008, -1/+9Enjoy what? $50 a month or more for speeds "up to" 1.5 Mbps? How about a sustainable minimum speed of 20 Mbps or greater? That should be what is defined as "broadband", not this 200Kbps crap. "Hey, America's broadband is pathetically slow, what should we do?" "Let's lower the rate defined as broadband so we can say we have high broadband deployment" "Capital!" "Great idea mein fuhrer Bush!"
- Dagreenman, on 09/30/2008, -2/+9i'd be hapy if it wasn't for the fact that it's the US government. Soon there will be another party raping us besides our ISP.
- zyklon, on 09/30/2008, -0/+7SIKE!
- Manther, on 09/30/2008, -0/+6Crownedgriffin is right, it's not necessarily automatically a bad thing, but continue to question your government, make sure they're not pulling something over on you, and if they are, it's your duty to spread the word. That's how a democracy works.
- ansecos, on 09/30/2008, -1/+7Where's my Japan-speed internet??
- stretch611, on 09/30/2008, -0/+6I agree. Normally our congress does sneak spy bills in at the end of session. I was also shocked to see that this is actually a pro-consumer bill.
I guess this made it in is because it is an election year. - greevar, on 09/30/2008, -0/+5@shredswithpiks
"Up to" 12Mbps . That doesn't guarantee that your service will get even close to that. You may get 10Mbps on average, but you could also go as slow as 256Kbps or less. In fact what they offer is really an empty promise. "Up to" just means you can get that much, but even if you get 56Kbps, we haven't under served you according to our advertising.
@aigulf
A sustained minimum 20Mbps should be the definition of "broadband". That is the least you need for broadband TV. Why should we have to pay $100 a month for Qwest's "up to" 20Mbps when Japan gets 100Mbps for less than $30 a month? - greevar, on 09/30/2008, -0/+4That's was my first impression when I read the title, but that is the name of the bill...
- crownedgriffin, on 09/30/2008, -1/+5RTFA. It says that if even one address in a zip code has broad band access, the whole zip code is counted.
- stretch611, on 09/30/2008, -1/+5If they only showed which options people have that are not monopolies.
I have two choices in Georgia, the phone monopoly and the cable monopoly. I wish I had a real choice instead of two companies that both screw customers and provide poor customer service. - net48734, on 09/30/2008, -0/+4Seems useless information. Not the bill, but the map itself. I live in mid-Michigan and we have ONE choice for broadband and that is Comcast.There is no other, or I wouldn't be using them.
- zyklon, on 09/30/2008, -0/+4The good title maker called in sick.
- momedefome, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3The title is very bad , it's actually good what they want to do
- PhantomRogue, on 09/30/2008, -2/+5No, it just stops for Jewish (and every other religious) holiday (read: Congress is on Recess due to Jewish new year). Correct me if i'm wrong, but if ***** is hitting the fan on Christmas, Easter or whatever Religious holiday you worship, my ass is working to resolve the problem, not taking a day off.
- Sraza, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/ ...
Higher rez image of the US map of the providers found on page 23.
In my area there are only 2 that I was able to find when I moved, the map shows I have 7 or more. Ars details why the map is flawed. - aigulf, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3sustained? or max? I've got an 8Mbps link from Comcast, and we're lucky if we can peak 2Mbps.
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+3The future technological development of this country is NOT a trivial issue, and part of that development is staying on top of current trends (such as high(er)-speed Internet). I'd much rather have the government deal with these sorts of issues instead of spending my money to pay for Wall Street's gambling problem.
- stretch611, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Each company is a monopoly. They compete in one area: Broadband Internet access. In that category they are technically a Duo-opoly. However, they both know the customer has limited choices and care as little for customer service in Broadband because they know the other company is just as bad.
In a similar vein, does the fact that Microsoft actually competes in the game console market mean that it isn't a monopoly? - inactive, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2This is as much of an improvement as the patriot act is patriotic. The government getting in our business and seeing what we download, what apps we use to download and at what speeds is unacceptable. It is non of the governments business. The private sector should do this not the government. Do you honestly believe they wont abuse the power they get from it? I cant believe the fool who submitted this thinks its a good thing.
- TheYoshi, on 09/30/2008, -1/+3Ug, I know this looks like a good one, but man I get nervous when the government starts mucking around with anything. We need less regulation and while this doesn't look like regulation, why do they need to look at what types of internet applications are being most frequently used? Sounds like a great way for them to come up with something people do that they either don't like, want to tax or want to stop.
The government does NOT know what's best for you people, and they certainly don't have you're best interests in mind, don't ask them to take care of you. Man we need a new congress. - AndrewMoyer, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2That's Sensationalism for ya.
- TheHayze, on 09/30/2008, -1/+3Yes, but right now only Verizon is using the money the Federal Government gave them to upgrade their systems (FIOS in major cities.). AT&T, and Comcast are using it to pay their CEOs to talk about it, and run a campaign complaining that their routers, and lines are overloaded because they offered "unlimited" usage plans to Joe Schmoe, and Jane Doe, who used their new unlimited plans. Obviously some of them cant be trusted, and so the FCC and Congress are tightening their reigns.
- Vegiemaster, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2FTA: "...the Senate version, for instance, tacks on a 'child pornography enforcement' section and an Internet safety campaign..."
I'm curious about what is included in this section. Don't get me wrong, child porn is disgusting, but I hope that whatever it is doesn't violate our privacy or censor parts of the Internet. Like when Verizon and some other ISPs hid the whole alt branch in Usenet because they found a tiny amount of child porn in a few groups. - quomen, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Well, the broadband industry IS heavily subsidized by the US government..
- shredswithpiks, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2we just got 12Mbps from Qwest in my town... I guess that's something?
- MrBabyManSTFU, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2Hmmm, I took it to mean that if I'm on a fringe area that happens to get broadband because a neigboring zip does that would show my whole zip code area as receiving broadband, rather than adding to the total count. It is misleading either way, but I guess it's possible your explaination is the correct interpretation of the map.
Note, I checked my zip and it shows 7+ however, there are only 3 providers in my area. I would kill for some competition as my choices are:
1) Comcast
2) Some local cable provider which is more expensive than comcast for less.
3) Some low rent phone company which provides 1.5MB DSL for $48/mo - diggdatt, on 09/30/2008, -0/+2That map they have looks really wrong. 7 or more providers is that bluish area which is mostly rural areas?
- Tenoq, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1@ groo68
No, satellite latency is epic. Even worse than wireless broadband solutions. - allisonaxe, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1same goes for me, only one choice running to my apartment, AT&T. and I'm sick and tired of their *****. the line stutters on occasion, and the con-artist contractor they send out keeps raising the price for maintenance while not really fixing anything.
- maus56, on 09/30/2008, -1/+2In South Korea
- quomen, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1In Japanese Al Gore.
- greevar, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1No, they're all out to get me! Marukahti Selectives I think. They know I know too much!
- aigulf, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1@greevar
I agree completely, it's absurd. - linksus, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1As of Dec 2006
Humm. thats almost 2 years old. Im sure its changed a fair bit since. - mobling, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Yep, the FCC will investigate the crimes of the ISP providers and what can we expect? The same results that the Cable TV giants have gotten away with for decades.
- lilhelper, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Ya, what the hell..
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+1Not useless at all - if someone can conclusively prove that Comcast is engaging in monopolistic practices in your area, it may help other providers get a foothold in the region. And competition is always good for the consumer.
- leerayIG88, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1I think i'm turning Japanese.
- belebih, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1"We need less regulation"
Yeah, because that's been proven to work so well... - puter, on 09/30/2008, -0/+0Digg? Sensationalism? Never!!!
I just wish the titles were accurate, I base my judgement on what I am going to read largely on the title, it annoys the crap when it indicates that it is some huge news event, you click on it, and it turns out to have nothing to do with the title or description. - groo68, on 10/01/2008, -1/+1They could use existing lines to ping servers and satellites to transfer the data faster, making the large land mass of the U.S. less of a problem.
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