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- austin63, on 10/10/2007, -0/+103"estimated retail value of close to $500 million" = Chinese street value $3.50
- droversoul, on 10/10/2007, -5/+45I ain't giving you no tree-fitty you goddamn Loch Ness monster!
- Error601, on 10/10/2007, -3/+43The trade balance with China: We buy Chinese goods...they steal American goods.
- Winters, on 10/10/2007, -1/+34"...which they credit with being in possession of counterfeit software valued at half a billion dollars"
Which was all on a single disk containing Adobe products. - Infantrydude, on 10/10/2007, -3/+28Window dressing. The Chinese are trying to prevent trade sanctions by looking like they are cracking down on piracy and intellectual theft.
- yzhao17, on 10/10/2007, -6/+24US average income = 2500USD per month
Windows Vista in USA = 200USD 10% of the income.
Chinese average income = 100USD per month
Windows Vista in China = 200USD 200% of the income.....
How can MS expect Chinese ppl to buy their software at full price???? - jonfleck88, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19What is that these days? 6 or 7 copies of windows.
- enforce1, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18And here I am paying for photoshop like a schmuck.
- DavidGX, on 10/10/2007, -7/+20So they had 3 copies of vista ultimate?
- darkfate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13It's called not giving a rat's ass.
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Yeah, I figured it was roughly four copies of VIsta Ultimate
- ZiggityZhang, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Nobody writes viruses for Macs because the fanboys are too busy looking at the shiny zooming dock and masturbating to it.
- ripstuntz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12How could you sleep at night knowing that you have half a billion dollars worth of pirated software just waiting to get you sent to jail for a VERY long time?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10In other words, .0001% of Big Red's bootleggers are out of the game
- cyface, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8By knowing that it's extremely unlikely that the police in your country will do anything to you?
- RickySan65, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Oh please.. if they have enough money to buy a computer they should have enough to buy software as well, if not then they don't have their priorities straight.. food on the table is far more important then a computer..
- davewashere, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10I hope my computer never gets confiscated. Using RIAA pricing, I've got about $8,500,000,000,000 worth of music on there. That doesn't include the billions of dollars worth of movies and software.
- rootstyle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I dont recall any major apps being 'developed' in China. Q&A in India at best....
- Alpione, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11Ah yes... The always mature "it's overpriced so stealing it is alright" excuse. Are you 12 or 13?
- mikalveli, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8My computer is how I put food on the table.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8And they were paid by American companies to program those goods....what's your point again?
- gremos, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Your comment makes no sense. You are saying that if I can't afford a new Ferrari and can get a stolen one cheap, then it is OK for people to be stealing and buying stolen Ferrari's. In my scenario, it allows everyone to make a little cash as well.
The correct answer is, if you can't afford to buy licensed software you go to open source software. There is plenty of good stuff to go around for free. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6its sold at $500 million but I can usually haggle that down by 3/4ths
- Error601, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6And generally incorrect. People only pass the grunt work overseas.
- Asianwaste, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You're mixing up programming with tech supporting
- Asianwaste, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5What about Pirate Ninjas?
- Tarnum, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8No, they found 10 copies of Dassault System's CATIA ($45,000 per CD official price), 5 copies of AutoCAD with all extensions and add-ons ($87,000 per CD official price)...
The truth is, nobody is pirating Vista, it's too heavy. - Sparkster185, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10So if there isn't a market for a product, it's okay to steal it from the original seller and re-sell it at a lower price? No thanks.
- robbh66, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'll agree somewhat.
However, when you're SELLING pirated software, then yeah, it is like stealing real things- particularly money. - Asianwaste, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It is stealing. Doesn't change the fact that I'm not spending $500 for a copy of Photoshop.
- yzhao17, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Those who save money for a year to build a $500 computer...after they got their computer and they found out "Wow, do I have to pay the OS again? for....$200? Crap"
- tdotn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4$500mil worth of software, say on average, about $250 per software ($50 for crap software to about $1000 for photoshop), thats about 2,000,000 copies of software, and let's say those discs get sold for $5 in china, thats about $10mil street value in china, still quite a BIG operation.
- Alpione, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Keep telling yourself that... That's the bumper sticker for the morally challenged...
- aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I mean, it's not like people have to write software or anything.
- Asianwaste, on 10/10/2007, -0/+32 fitty? What is there a sale on Loch Ness Munchies?
- chocolatetacos, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4So you should be able to get things you're not willing to pay for. That's logically consistent.
- SigmaDraconis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"(insert smarmy comment about pirates wishing to protect themselves from viruses here)"
You'd think those pirates would steal better antivirus software that isn't by Symantec. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Hmm wonder if they'll get a bullet in the head and have it billed to their families for pirating software...or is that for just searching google "wrong"? I forget.
- tianzhang, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4supermajic hit the nail on the head there. for the average office worker who lives on a salary of 30,000RMB (4,000 USB) per year, legal copies of anything (let alone software) is just a little too much to ask for. i guess if the USA and the rest of the world want cheap stuff from china, then they cant really complain about chinese people being paid less wages (thus not able to afford 30USD~300USD pieces of software).
- CatalystGhost, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2He's just spreading the divine word of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, man. It's legit.
- mjtener, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Haha, jokes on them then, next release of MS in 2010 is going to be subscription only (might do it for this version too)... which means u won't be able to pirate quite so easily. I can't stand MS but they have tried to adjust prices, and ur chart seems pretty f'in scewed, you SuRe about those prices???? don't think your right.
- Tabris, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Wow, it's even remotely related to this topic!
Stop spamming. - ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3...co9mpetition rejoices; new "pirates" appear 1 second later
- jimmoses, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3You'd have to sleep on a nice comfy pile of money, that would probably help.
- flair1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3i wonder if the pirates will be executed by walking the plank?
- Error601, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2They didn't say they used MSRP. In fact the numbers later if you read more than the headline come out to a value of $23 for each disk.
- spawnfree, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2reminds me of when McDonalds first opened in Russia.
one months wages for a burger, only they were queuing up instead of making their goddam own. - supermajic, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5pfft, everything's pirated in China... we're not talking about a completely 'developed' country or whatever the politically correct term is now days. Most people in China simply couldn't afford full priced software. Imagine a Chinese... brick layer or something at their wage trying to buy a full priced copy of Windows Vista, may as well not deprive them of all software. Eh, I'm probably totally wrong, but on my defence, I'm tired and lazy.
- Alpione, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Another common childish excuse for piracy - "they aren't losing money because I wasn't going to buy it anyway." But then you've got it and don't need it anymore even if you do gain the money to buy it. And there's no incentive to actually save up for it. The developer gets hosed either way... If you weren't going to buy it anyway, you don't need to pirate it...
- tektalk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I know the values of certain contraband like that since I'm in china and have nothing better to do but wait till school starts. Some of the vendors here sell it for around 15 RMB( yuan, either way) from where I am ( Hangzhou ). that's around 2 dorras I don't know how expensive some vendors will make it but the one I know sells it for 12 yuan. No, I don't buy them; they're usually are fake don't work at all.
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