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- technoredneck, on 10/10/2007, -11/+301Just goes to show that all of this DRM, DMCA, copy-protection mess is 99.5% the result of techno-ignorant people in high positions.
- GaiaAP, on 10/10/2007, -6/+130As a long time software developer and computer user, I'm not entirely unsympathetic to her desire for neo-luddism (I feel the urge every time I see a CCTV camera for instance), but find another position please. You. are. clearly. not. qualified.
- MacEnvy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+94Apparently, you can make it all the way to Chief of the US Copyright Office.
- dark1587, on 10/10/2007, -2/+88If you don't want the blogspam, here is the actual CNet Story:
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9779996-7.html - cjh24, on 10/10/2007, -5/+65The story isn't about whether or not it's right to not own a computer, it's about the "fundementally flawed" idea of having n00bs tell geeks what to do.
- JonnyTrombone, on 10/10/2007, -11/+68And the Secretary of Education is a homophobic moron. Many positions at the highest levels of government are currently filled with idiots who did Bush a favor or two when he was in Texas.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+47No, she probably wouldn't see it our way. But don't you think it's wrong that someone who doesn't even own a computer gets to tell the rest of us what we can do with ours?
- linkerjpatrick, on 10/10/2007, -3/+41This is one of the things out there that drive me totally crazy. We have too many people out there who take a weird pride in being "non-technical." I hear people almost everyday admit to how stupid they are when it comes to technology. It would be one thing if this was 1980 or so but computers are the tools of business. I'm 41 now and was in my late 20's when I got my first computer but one of the reasons I did was I knew it was going to be tool of business and I need to learn the skills as well as keep up with a younger generation who was already ahead of me in some respects at that time. The scary thing is I am now hearing people in their 20's almost brag about how non-technical they are and a good many of them are women but quite a few guys as well are talking this way. I can tell some don't want to look like nerds but we are way beyond the "only nerds use computers" stage. It not just about technology either it's about society, business and culture and if a public servants and those running for office play the "old school" card you can count me out.
- sfacets, on 10/10/2007, -11/+48How the F* do people like that get jobs? There should be an age limit for politicians (after which they are exterminated)
- adooga, on 10/10/2007, -6/+43If she understands the issues then who cares if she has a computer?
I'm not saying she DOES understand the issues around digital copyright, but having a computer isn't any guarantee that she would either.
I've read a lot of comments here on digg from people who have no understanding of copyright issues at all, but they seem to know how to use a computer... - roberto_deneero, on 10/10/2007, -15/+49Nothing wrong with not owning a computer. You just wont make it very far in this world without knowing how to use one.
- enforcerpsu, on 10/10/2007, -5/+39This is a real issue. Its an issue all across law makers in this country. We have a LARGE group of ELDERLY, out of touch people making laws for a predominately "in-touch" younger generation. We need this entire group, including all of congress voted out now and we need to START OVER. Ever watch one of these meetings when these "groups" get together? Its painful how clueless they all are.
- GaiaAP, on 10/10/2007, -5/+38No, just qualified.
- Ricky8765, on 10/10/2007, -3/+33Who the ***** said you had to be a genius with computers to know how to use and understand them? You're a ***** dumbass .
That'd be like putting an Amish person in charge of the Dept of Transportation and then saying it's ok because where does it say he has to own a car or have EVER ridden in something that could be considered modern transportation. Once again, ***** dumbass - rsh28630, on 10/10/2007, -5/+33I'm 60. I'm probably one of the people you are referring to in your mini rant. Here's a clue kid, I was in Boston when Bolt, Baranek and Neumann go the contract to aid in developing this tool you're now using called the Internet. I find the naiveté of young folks both amusing and dangerous; as I suspect the Greatest Generation did of the Baby Boomers. So if you want to rip the "elderly" for being out of touch, you do well to remember the adage "age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill!" There is this underrated asset known as life experience that stands us in good stead. Sure everyone today should know how to use a computer; but the reality is, astute management is not dependent on digital dexterity. And the pathetic fact is, in large measure, PCs have produced very little in the way of intelligent analysis. That still requires wetware. Remember that... the soft tissue between your ears about which it was once said "load your brain before you shoot off your mouth"?
- FTLJohnson, on 10/10/2007, -3/+30But don't YOU think it's wrong that ANYONE gets to tell the rest of us what we can do with ours?
- nickdngr, on 10/10/2007, -7/+33Fire her. Now.
- williamdyer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+28Cut her some slack. She's still working on the dire threat that mimeograph machines represent to copyright holders.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/10/2007, -9/+31As I move from through my 30s it's becoming painfully how out of touch the 'in touch younger generation' really is. The only thing the 'in touch younger generation' seems to have is a will to frivolously spend money, something the older 'out of touch' generation of ad-men and marketers are more than happy to encourage them to do, by convincing the 'in touch younger generation' that they are actually 'in touch'
- Zippo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+22Talk about ass-backwards thinking.
- darkened, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21No, just the politicians.
- cjh24, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19Sort of reminds me of the "Man, with a cat, in a shed at the edge of the galaxy", thing from the hitchhicker's guide.
damn nested sentences. - mstrebe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17I can't believe that all you computer owning non-Luddites don't know the difference between copyright law and patent law. Fire. You. Now.
- scottique, on 10/10/2007, -10/+26Not that her policy isn't problematic--I think anybody reading this would give you that--but it's a little misleading to jump from "doesn't own a computer at home" to "doesn't know anything about computers." It's not like she doesn't sit in front of a computer at work all day. I'd be unsurprised if the home computer is technically her husband's, and her dogmatic commitment to speaking in terms of personal property rights compels her to say that *she* doesn't have one.
- daniel02, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16I can.
- acmorton, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14She actually started in her current position in 1994 during the Clinton Administration, prior to that she was an assistant from 1983 - 1994. I think she has significant experience with older copyright legislation and issues, but is clueless in the current era...
- StillGaming, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13http://www.digg.com/users/indyguide/history/commen ...
Quit hocking your *****. - glacius99, on 10/10/2007, -6/+18Yes, because Marybeth Peters is calling all the shots for every DRM, DMCA scenario.. :|
- rcw3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Stop!! She's NOT a glorified file clerk. She's a policy maker. She's deeply intertwined in the RIAA-sanctioned internet radio fiasco, has been a proponent of DRM (and the RIAA). She's a friend to corporations and big business.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12This is a good thing, actually. When technology becomes so ubiquitous that it can be used without being really understood, then it has reached a point that it becomes a useful ingrained part of our society and not just a novelty for the specialists.
- JudgeMonkey, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15Vote Tim Henson for president in '08. Mandatory Euthanasia for the elderly.
- a2fan, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15Not true, it is all about money, technology and granting exclusive protections for it -- it's just that some of that technology has moral and social implications attached to it.
- griffey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Hey gang...just a quick comment, since this is my blog that's melting:
FearlessFreep: it's not patent law, it's copyright. Two different bits of legal protection, for two completely different concepts.
The point of blogging this was that I find it hard to believe that anyone who doesn't deal with the digital world on more than a business basis can adequately understand the issues surrounding digital copyright. Also, within the library world, there's a tendency to romanticize the days before computers...as a techie librarian myself, I wanted to bring to light that being proud of being technologically ignorant is probably not the position I'd like my librarians to be taking.
Otherwise, thanks for the digg. - rcw3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11She has a HELL of a lot to do with DRM, DMCA, and the RIAA. Jeez. Go freaking look her up in Wikipedia before making these comments. She's deeply intertwined in the RIAA-sanctioned internet radio fiasco, has been a proponent of DRM (and the RIAA). She's a big player in this area.
- andycr512, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12...which you need to understand the technology of in order to grasp.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13If she is a self proclaimed 'Luddite' that must explain why the Copyright Office is such a mess. It must be the way she fight technology....
- fourcorners, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Is he still a "smartarse" if he spells ad-hominem incorrectly?
- adooga, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11What guy?
- rsh28630, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I've been monitoring Digg for quite some time (Years?). I've commented on several topics but I notice the majority of the time the observations are quickly buried. I accept that as a forum is a function of its participants. NP... back in the day we said 'never trust anyone over 30' so payback is a bitch.
- ridiculicious, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12This is just more evidence that the current political system can no longer adapt quickly enough. Those who have had the power historically continue to ignore the fact that anything has changed, and will not stop doing so. Hopefully they have been given enough rope to hang themselves.
- frenchtoaster, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10People are claiming No computer -> No way of understanding digital copyright
Your counterclaim Not ( computer -> understanding ) is not a logical argument, i.e. "If its snowing then it must be cold"... "if not snowing then it must not be cold" is not an implication of that sentence.
What I'm trying to say is that there might actually be something to the claim that to fully grasp the implications of digital copyright you have to own a computer, but owning a computer clearly does not mean you understand digital copyright. - andycr512, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Ah, our favorite pro-copyright troll. Wondered when he would come out. First reply to the first comment, kudos.
- nickdngr, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14Bury me, I completely misread your comment.
- adooga, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10And where would she get her pron from?
- VSAMCluster, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10My father just turned 60 this year and has always been an invaluable resource for advice and information for me. There are plenty of saavy and intelligent older Americans and I welcome them to help run this country. Owning a computer should not be a requirement for working in the patent office. That being said, I'd hope that the patent office would take a long hard look at current patent law and policy and be able to see that changes need to be made. Decreasing patent and copyright terms encourages continued productivity by innovative people since they cannot rest on their laurels after a single work.
Oh, and welcome to Digg as well. Try not to get too worked up with the young-uns that mouth off on this site. - rolf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8And yet, you are here at digg, posting a comment.
- SleepingOrange, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Well, that would be a good idea, except the majority of the "in touch" generation doesn't vote.
- frenchtoaster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Despite "copyright" not being exclusive to computers, computers have led to entirely new issues of copyright.
I think you would be hard pressed to say that there would be any anti-copy protection circumvention law applied to non-digital media. Claiming that at least a good working knowledge of computers is not necessary to understand the full implications of the DMCA is ludicrous. Many of these implications do not exist in "old" media.
15 years ago any kid could make a homemade music video with any song they owned, and no one would know about it. There was no issue of non-commercial fair use because it wasn't really feasible to distribute your media without charging. - thickdrummer, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10How can this possibly be accurate? How would she socialise without a computer?
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