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- scratt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+49Our Company is as follows..
Over 10 years as a market leader in a popular commercial field.
We provide both free and charged for services.
Our web site is a free source of information and we promote that aspect of it as our interest in our field is both commercial and borne from a natural love of what we do.
We have submitted applications to DMOZ every year for the last 6 or 7 years.
We are consistenly listed on MSN, Google etc. etc. in the top ten in our field, and related fields.
DMOZ is still yet to list us, despite numerous communications from us.
DMOZ lists several lesser competitors, which go figure, have affiliations with DMOZ editors...
DMOZ needs to die. - pkonink, on 10/10/2007, -1/+40People still actually talk about the DMOZ? I thought by now it was plain to everyone that it's a huge stinking pile of *****. I cared about it for like 10 minutes then I moved on. Of course, when it finally gets dropped by Google and (hopefully) shut down completely, I'll drink a toast.
- DjArcadian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+38I don't understand why Google still uses them. Surely Google could develop their own directory system.
- hanni000, on 10/10/2007, -1/+37I've heard many people accusing DMOZ extorting them anywhere from $50 to $5000 to keep them listed in their directory. Time to see DMOZ'[s demise.
- postaldave, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23here is why i hate dmoz.
i run a website 5united.net just a silly little site covering bmw motorcycles from 70 to 73. dmoz has it listed as a "club" well some dirtbag got the admin editor for the category for those model years. i can not get my site changed over to the category spot instead of "club" because the "editor" doesn't want my site to compete with his.
dmoz is a great idea gone REALLY REALLY BAD.
i am just of millions with the same story. - deadlift, on 10/10/2007, -5/+27We need a new web directory.
- YoungMaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Google should seriously think about either creating their own directory, cloning botw.org, or just doing away with having a directory. It looks bad when they associate themselves with corruption like this.
Of course they should also greatly devalue dmoz links in their algorithm. - xiaomonkey, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20Replacing DMOZ with a wiki directory might make it less vulnerable to this sort of abuse.
Or, does something like this already exist? - duniyadnd, on 10/10/2007, -6/+23Surprising... maybe you should read up about it before you come up with an opinion in the matter. dmoz controls a lot on how successful a website can be on search engines like Google (maybe you heard of them but find them boring as well?).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmoz - eean, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16Um, Google uses dmoz.
- eean, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12There is talk of actually a whole human-powered search engine.
Spam would be the obvious issue there, in the same way corruption is here. - Burpeey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I used to be a DMOZ editor. I had one category, because we had our own site that we wanted to promote and the category for the kind of site didn't exist yet. When you're an editor to a category, you have absolute power over the links in your category. Sure, there are rules and they regularly check up on you, but if you're smart you can do the things you want without being detected.
The single-editor-clique system is horribly flawed and always has been. The only reason people are still so eager to get on it, is that once you're listed you automatically get 10.000+ links to your website. There are DMOZ copies all over the web, and each of those provides a link which in turn provides a higher pagerank. That's why it's so important to webmasters to get into DMOZ, and why it's so frustrating to face the corruption of the editors. - RobertBogley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Similar story here, in the Systems Management area. Effectively shafted by a competitor
- vonskippy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Can there be ANYTHING that I could care less about?
DMOZ wasn't even that good when it first came out (almost 10 years ago) - now it's just old and pathetic (as is anyone that still uses it). - Dynamoo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Shoemoney was offering to bribe an ODP editor here - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=150377&postcount=41 - offering to bribe an ODP editor is a surefire way of getting your site delisted. From what I can see, it does appear that the site was listed in error. Also Joost de Valk (who is the ex-editor who's site this is on) was suspended because of his behaviour (read the thread on his site). You must understand that ODP editors are not permitted to talk about individual cases in great detail, so this sort of thing always ends up as a one-sided argument.
Yes, perhaps there *is* a story here, and I would be interested to know the true source of the email. I suspect that perhaps someone is running a script looking for dropped listings from the ODP and is running a scam. ODP data has been used by scammers before. - Urusai, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11Gee, I thought the almighty Google was supposed to replace hierarchical directories like Yahoo and dmoz. Which way bloweth the winds of fad this fortnight?
- W00dyW00d, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11Very well put duniyadnd. why even comment on something you know nothing about deaconyermouf?
- s1mph0ny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3dmoz is a group that was started by netscape. That's why they have the navigator logo on their main page.
From this article, it's actually pretty clear that the editor who was banned didn't understand the rules. - Stratochief66, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3What, was it like fight club?
- redigit, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6They only way to get listed anymore is to become an editor and add your own site. But come to think of it, send one of those corrupt editors my way. I'd pay $100 to get listed, It's a lot cheaper then yahoo.
- tavisjohn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3When I opened my personal (And no particular topic) website, I was e-mailed by DMOZ asking if I wanted to be listed... The script that they sent me was alot like those "Important person directories). So I told them to shove off!
That was, many years ago, I am SUPRISED that it still exists! - juraj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3it's a stream of DMOZ
- rootstyle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Do people still use web directories on any volume? I admit I used web directories back in the early days of the web (pre altavista, which google of course succeeded) but they never really had the power of a crawler.
- Dynamoo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3DMOZ has never emailed people asking if they wanted to be listed. You're probably talking about a scam site (such as topsites.us) which illegally used ODP data.
- catspot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Can anyone at google please answer the question "why do you still use DMOZ in your algorithm" or can anyone else confirm that they still do? Knowing that they have problems and considering it gets worse each year how they google put any importance on this steaming pile of horse excriment. I would love to see someone shovel this thing into the dumpster.
BTW, anyone know of a writeup on DMOZ on the inner workings of it? Like who runs it? Where are they located, who's in charge, etc. Sounds like a secret society...if google would just stop using it I think it would fall apart. - Rulex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You can see the same story in several places, the editors for a couple of areas in mexico are dirty stinking realtors and they only keep their sites listed for the keywords, we have tried to report their sorry ass to no avail, indeed, DMOZ needs to die!.
- duniyadnd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2now you have!!
- mookieXL, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Googlebot.
- OrangeTide, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If they are unwilling to maximize the number of quality sites then link to then people will stop using them. (and they already have slowed to almost a trickle)
dmoz will linger on for another decade because it's really some guy's pet project. - Figs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I use them once in a while... especially when I don't know what I'm looking for by name.
- aloser, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Except Google uses DMOZ...
- SwtRose, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1When will people realize that you DON"T need Dmoz?
- OrangeTide, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I use them when google keeps returning the same old results.
- surpass, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I have heard a few too, of course most of them are just that accusations and no proof is ever offered. I would like to see someone actually give proof of this not just a an inflated opinion.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Lot's of people sick of the DMOZ ridiculousness have switched their efforts to AboutUs.org, which has a wiki web directory. They have over 7,000,000 sites listed, and if a page about a site doesn't exist and someone searches for it the bot will create a basic page to encourage editing.
http://www.aboutus.org - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2wtf?
- g1smd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0*** Note to all that say Google uses DMOZ. directory.google.com has not been updated since 2005. ***
WRONG! The Google Directory was last updated in 2007 August.
The update took several weeks to complete, starting sometime around 2007-08-18. - surpass, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0If you don't like dmoz, don't use it. If you don't like Google, don't use it. If you don't like Yahoo don't use it.
- Litespeed, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1In other news, people are still using directories?
Those dudes need to get out of the house for a while - go for a walk, ride a bike. - JFitzpatrick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I read an article the other day about how men prefer to use Google and women prefer to use Yahoo.. and I realized I hadn't been to Yahoo or used a directory style search engine in 5+ years. I actually went to Yahoo just for the novelty of visiting it again and was underwhelmed.
- lauradaisy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0dmoz needs to die the sooner the better :P
- qryztufre, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Note to all that say Google uses DMOZ. directory.google.com has not been updated since 2005. If you call that USE then I have a few DMOZ listings I'd like to sell you *smirk*
- TeeBalt, on 05/16/2008, -0/+0DMOZ it is qualitative part of the Internet, its best side. Seo do not like rigid filtration of spam. We should have such projects as ODP/DMOZ that the Internet has not turned to dust.
Russian ODP editors have opened the blog http://www.russiandmoz.ru in January 2008. They try to show advantage of the DMOZ for Russian Internet. - Figs, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Human powered... Like Cha-Cha? :P
- kushiel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Years ago when I was just a young teen I was a DMOZ editor, and being a geek, really liked the Computers category. I worked my way up so I could edit the entire Computers cat, but then dropped out. Why? Because I was getting offers for bribes, which creeped me out, and then some disgruntled guy who couldn't get his website in outed me on a mailing list as a 15-year old and ranted on about how stupid it was to have a teenager able to control the success of a business. It wasn't fun anymore, and the other editors were really cliquish. People were treating it as SRS BIZNESS and I didn't want to be a part of that. I went on to volunteer at LiveJournal, which is a whole 'nother can of beans.
- outdoorsports, on 02/12/2009, -0/+0I have submited these sites for a few clients of mine and still no go
http://www.airgunrifles.com
http://www.outdoorcharter.com
http://www.baitnhook.net
http://www.abugarciastore.com
http://www.shimanoreelstore.com
http://www.penntacklestore.com
http://www.thetoolworkshop.com - cwcentral, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmoz
What sites does google index? How does it know about those sites? How is google aware of new sites aside from randomly webcrawling common words? --dmoz is the key.
Google could not possibly recreate another directory as robust as dmoz is now. Unless they start some SETI@Home type of effort it, could take them tens of years.
And yes, with all the SEO stuff out there, dmoz has become corrupt, but it works 80/20. - Res0nate, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0A hard battle over the DMOZ directory, Is it corrupt or not? I believe it is..... So what would happen if the directory was removed surly websites listed would lose some serious pagerank or has Google got its claws in it far enough to save it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0No but people use topic-specific directories such as tutorials, torrents, images, software
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