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- curtissthompson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Because the 2+ weeks he was gone from digg altogether doesn't constitute as a vacation/time away from digg/computers?! Seriously that was an intelligent comment!
Besides what does it matter to you what he does with his time, it is his life, and you all keep digging his stories, so apparently his work is appreciated by the masses. What he does has no practical implications on you, it doesn't affect you, or concern you. If you don't like him, ban him, bury him, ignore him...digg gives you that power, use it! But apparently your opinion is outweighed by the rest, so he will still get homepaged stories, so just deal. What does it matter who submits what anyways, the content still ends up on digg, does a rank really matter that much? - BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12That is totally uncalled for, calacanus.
P.S. I realize you can't reply because Digg has banned your account since writing that comment:
http://digg.com/users/calacanus
Guess we know where Digg stands on this "issue" - hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Big three are ABC, CBS, and NBC which have been networks for a lot longer than Fox. Fox often gets thrown in with those pseudonetworks UPN and WB, which have apparently reshuffled.
- reject, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12How about you kids go through gopher's digging records and stop taking the advice of others? Check how many comments he diggs up, how many on each story. You'd know a lot more that way than reading some silly website about how those who seem to digg the most interesting stories all digg one another.
I've had gopher as a friend for a while (without their knowledge, I believe), because they digg the same style of stories I care to read. Have you actually seen the newly submitted stories to Digg? They're half-horrible, a quarter ridiculous, and a fifth unintelligible. Just block him if you're into conspiracy theories, or add him as a friend if you want to read a very diverse array of stories being submitted by him.
PS
Dupes don't matter; as long as the story is spread, who really cares? It's about knowledge, not fame, nor recognition. - reject, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I agree that Digg should be free and independent, but how can only 10-20 people reporting as lame a story which has 900+ Diggs bury it? Perhaps others aren't interested? Others, like those who Digg and view the stories Dugg by and submitted by those in the Top 30? Perhaps Digg just needs to remove those who merely Bury and Digg and don't submit? Yeah, there goes the majority of the users/readers.
I don't see how banning, or threatening to ban, some users who submit stories will help anyone.
Here's a little more to the story:
(names listed at http://jesusphreak.infogami.com/blog/is_digg_rigged ):
(friends obtained by http://digg.com/users/their_name_here/friends/list)
hemphill81 - 119 friends, befriended by 146. 12,037 stories dugg. 352 stories submitted. 156 promoted stories (44%). the rest are similar, so i won't even bother finding that info on them. you can, however, if you want, by going to http://digg.com/users/their_name_here/profile
supernova17 - 230 friends, befriended by 339.
Aidenag - 196 friends, befriended by 215.
johndi - 180 friends, befriended by 176.
parislemon - 162 friends, befriended by 143.
capn_caveman - 261 friends, befriended by 254.
wayjer - 154 friends, befriended by 201.
3monkeys - 223 friends, befriended by 177.
msaleem - 185 friends, befriended by 214.
To put this into perspective: NSMike - 1 friend, befriended by 7. reject - 6 friends, befriended by 5.
Perhaps this entire conspiracy theory is nothing more than the benefit (or disadvantage) of having the friends feature? You can't go around screaming, "digg gaming!" because someone who half-assed their research decided that everyone in the Top 30 befriends one another, because, by those stats above, most of the time if you befriend one of the Top 30, they'll befriend you back, and thus you'll be Digging their stories, and then that shift will have a large wave of both backlash (buried stories talking trash about the Diggers they're friends with), or of promotion (Digging stories that their friends submitted/Dugg). Isn't that a natural occurance, and not a thing of, "gaming," Digg, as whoever-the-hell-started-that-cliche-of-a-phrase first put it?
Grow some creativity, and realize that they're Top 30 for a reason-- they submit a lot, half are promoted (because they have so many friends), and that it's easier for them. Take away the friends feature, and this will be done with. But, wouldn't that take away an option so many Digg users, myself included, need-- a way to have any sort of friend, if even through an online News submission site? How about just removing such a trivial thing as the Top list?
The basis of this comes down to the spread and wealth of knowledge (that's all News is, by the way-- knowledge) across a broad spectrum. Dupes are dupes, and so long as the story is being read, and the knowledge is known, then everything is all good and well. When you have someone who is committed to Digging, for their own, personal reasons, being befriended by so many, then, yeah, you're going to have stories that are about them and are negative (and likely false, but that's just my opinion) to be buried, and those that they submit to be promoted. Grab yourself by the reins of reality and realize this is a News site, and has nothing to do with money, status, or your function within society-- it's a News submission site! - thisisfunah, on 10/12/2007, -13/+19yo man, do you have a job? or do you just digg all day?
- G-RaZoR, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12I didn't realize a robot was able to search the net looking for stories, goto digg.com and post stories and fill in the captcha. All I know is, HE NEEDS TO GO OUTSIDE. HOLY CRAP GET A LIFE.
- mvprj84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5curtissthompson is definitely right. What would Digg be without these top guys? After all, there is a reason why these people are on Kevin Rose's friends list.
- samk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5So how is this show going to get to my TiVo? Through the phone line? Or is the show going to be secretly broadcast in the middle of the night just for TiVo boxes?
- bflfab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4First off, thanks for posting something related to the story.
I don't know if I have a series 2, but I have Tivo as my DirectTV box and I get little segments they call showcases. I would guess it just records them during the ~30 min update that it does some nights.
If you are up at some crazy hour you will once in a while catch the Tivo/receiver locked on a channel in the 100s getting program updates. - Madrox17, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You need to have your Series 2 TiVo hooked up to your home network (connected to the net via broadband) to receive this type of thing. I get little videos and shows (CNET.com has a weekly 15 minute tech review show) all the time. It downloads only if you have the available space, and will never mess with any of your other recordings, sort of like suggestions.
- ThisIsJames, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3maybe we could even talk about the story in here? (I'd hardly call this "teaming up"; nobody has seen it before, so it doesn't have a huge following or anything.)
Maybe we should get a top 50 hating forum on digg? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -20/+23hey digitalgopher...just wanted to let you know I'm reporting you to abuse. You're gaming digg
- zohar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm surprised nobody cracked the CBS joke yet.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Idiots: IT'S ***** SOCIAL BOOKMARKING!!!!!!! I don't think I could've made it any clearer to you, does he win a prize if he gets to #1? ***** no.
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7It's naive to think that all they're doing is putting up stories that people like to read... There's an active malicious movement to steal stories, create dupes, and bury opposition. There was a story on the front page, aside from the first one, that provided a completely different set of evidence of a cirlce of users gaming digg - it reached 980+ diggs, then, within a few minutes, was marked inaccurate, and then, buried off the front page. Tell me that's not an active movement to silence opposition. Others have noted that their stories have been buried, only to be submitted a few weeks later, and receive enormous numbers of diggs. They know they were buried because they disappeared from the Upcoming Stories pages relatively quickly. I'm not taking the advice of others, I've looked around myself. These people are determined to control the content of digg, and that's not what I want from digg. I want to see more than digitalgopher, aaaz, and a select few others' articles hitting the front page on the merit of the submission alone. I don't want my story to have to be approved and promoted by this circle to have it seen. Digg should function free and independent of influence.
- Araxen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Big 3? Last time I checked there were 4 Major Networks.
- poipoipoi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i've seen it; search mininova for "pre-air", there's like a dozen leaked shows. "The Class" was easily the worst of them. (But then, all sitcoms suck.)
- MontyZooma, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Nah, NBC doesn't count anymore
- eug2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1so more people cant do it in the future and so the same people cant keep doing it and making more new accounts(most isps give you dynamic ips anyways.) btw what are you talking about anyways?
- gpd209, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"There's an active malicious movement to steal stories, create dupes, and bury opposition"
To borrow from our recently departed friend, Crikey! This makes Digg sound like a Tom Clancy novel.
There is some strange sense of competition among many Digg users that I just don't understand. Why the compulsive need to point out every "dupe", as if it matters that a similar story gets posted more than once? Why do people preface their comments with "I know I'm going to get dugg down...", as if there is something wrong with others using Digg's features to express their own opinions? And now a bunch of conspiracy theories about the algorithm for promoting stories to the front page, as if people's feelings are hurt that their submissions just aren't very popular, or are green with envy over the "success" of certain submitters.
If you take a look at the stories I have submitted, you'll see that the average number of votes I've received is approximately 5. Pretty pathetic, eh? But why should I care? It's not a conspiracy. Others don't agree with me that those stories are interesting--it's just that simple. - hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1""The Class," about a twentysomething guy who rekindles friendships with several old third-grade pals,"
If the friendship failed to survive past the third-grade, were they really pals? They've stated this premise a variety of ways though. - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3To put it into even more perspective, the 1 friend that I have on digg, happens to be the guy who introduced me to digg in the first place, and is by no means a source for what I find to digg or read. I hit up digg cloud a lot, digg a few stories here and there, mostly browse the front page.
My problem is, digitalgopher and the gang dominate the front page anymore. I have an opposing question to your "how can 10-20 people bury a story" - how can a group of users dominate the front page so easily? Unless every single one of their friends diggs their stories all the time, it's not likely. Which means there's a weight to each person's digg... in which case more front page stories = more digg influence. Perhaps no one is making money, but they've got bragging rights to the front page of a major news bookmarking site. That's something.
I don't NEED a friends list to find stories. Hell, if I really wanted to make the front page, I WOULD submit more, and I WOULD solicit more friends, and I WOULD make an effort to see it happen. I, however, have a full time job which doesn't permit me much luxury time.
My main beef with all of this is seeing this group turn digg into their own little showplace. Whether it's deliberate manipulation or a consequence of having a massive friends base, it's what is happening, and it shouldn't be. THAT is the bottom line. - WhiskerTheMad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1CBS and Tivo? Gah. That's like hearing "Satan has teamed up with Twinkies" and promises the replace their creamy goodness with pygmy roach sauce... a full week before his competitors.
Gah. - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6There's a simple solution: Block digitalgopher and all of the circle-jerk cabal members. Their stories won't show up. Get the word out, and hopefully enough diggers will block all of the members of their little circle, and we can just ignore them altogether.
As far as I'm concerned, these jerk-offs have ruined digg for me. Let's ruin their fun. - hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1But the third grade? Who here remembers who they were classmates with in the third grade...especially those who changed schools and didn't have the same classmates from grade to grade.
What is the point of going back to the third grade for establishing a relationship between these people? - hemphill81, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Just so you know I accidentaly clicked the plus sign besides one of the comments.
- eug2k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1because he actually is a digital gopher programmed by Kevin to digg nite and day ... ha i just got the name gophers dig holes ahahaha .................im done.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Then again, there isn't anything, it's social bookmarking.
- bflfab, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1uhhhh, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot ??
- Cannon13, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Why is Kevin forced to completely change the Digg algorithms because of a bunch of punks messing up the site. It's pretty obvious who is doing the dirty work, so ban their accounts and block their IP's. No need changing the whole site.
- Haggismuncher, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Why does digitalgopher never reply to all the comments about him ?? Just wondered ; )
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5This is on the front page why? I bet if I submitted this story at most it would get 20 Diggs, now I suspect something...
- cragga, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5oh my god could you possibly post any more!?
i know you get a warm fuzzy feeling every time you see your name on the front page, but youre ruining digg with this worthless crap, im seeing more ***** from your clique on the front page every day, and each time it gets less ***** relevent. - beelz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Digital Gopher is slowly working his/her way to #1 bring in on Albertpacino
- serramagk, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Someone else posted this yesterday.
- jsmucker, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2No ***** !
- cragga, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4haha, dig me down *****.
here it is again. :)
oh my god could you possibly post any more!?
i know you get a warm fuzzy feeling every time you see your name on the front page, but youre ruining digg with this worthless crap, im seeing more ***** from your clique on the front page every day, and each time it gets less ***** relevent. - Crackshot, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Damn straight,
Dude just get it through your head that neither Digg nor Photoshop is a game, try world of warcraft if you're just interested in maintaining some inane rank for the hell of it. - khag7, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4i was totally thinking the same thing! he is always digging!!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1For some reason I suspect that Yahoo, being the liberal-yuppie Silicon Valley startup that it is, refuses to acknowledge Fox as a legitimate network.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3This just in: digitalgopher is a robot. He does not need food, water, or any other bare necesseties that us mere humans require. All he does is dig(g) for stories...
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