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- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -7/+70The Government rips a theme from a talented wordpress theme creator and fail to credit him for it. Removes all HTML links to his website and all Meta data..
Well that's just fair then isn't it govn'or. Mebbe I should not credit you for anything you produce?
From the CSS
/*
Theme Name: NetWorker
Theme URI: http://www.antbag.com
Description: An adsense ready theme from Antbag.com.
Version: 1.0
Author: Anthony Baggett
Author URI: http://www.antbag.com/
*/
/*body, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, blockquote, p, form{
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}
*/
Creative Commons 3.0
Isn't that also including commercial use should pay a fee? - Otto, on 08/20/2008, -6/+38This is completely inaccurate.
1. Nowhere in his licensing does he require attribution in any specific way. He is attributed in the CSS file, so as far as that goes, they have fulfilled their end.
2. The license he used refers to distribution, not use. They're not redistributing, so that license does not apply anyway.
3. They're denying that they're actually using his theme: http://www.newmediamaze.com/index.php/antbags-them ...
4. His license is invalid anyway. WordPress is GPL software. His theme is a derivative of WordPress. Therefore it is GPL too. Sorry, but all WP themes fall under the GPL. Like it or not. - Cadarn84, on 08/20/2008, -4/+30CC licence requires atleast the user to acknowledge the creator, this has not been the case.
case closed - WallnutBoy, on 08/20/2008, -31/+56Misleading title is misleading. -_-
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -8/+24I'm serious - I don't support this either but what the ***** man? Sensationalism? And now I'm getting buried for agreeing that it's wrong when it's ***** blatantly wrong? Thanks for showing Diggnorance everyone.
- SteveMax, on 08/20/2008, -1/+16Look at the included CSS. They forgot to remove:
/*
Theme Name: NetWorker
Theme URI: http://www.antbag.com
Description: An adsense ready theme from Antbag.com.
Version: 1.0
Author: Anthony Baggett
Author URI: http://www.antbag.com/
*/
If they used his files, it's by definition a derived work, therefore it's subject to the license terms. This is nothing like saying you ripped Google's design because you put a text box somewhere in the page; it's more like saying you ripped Google's design because you took the code for Google's home page, changed it a bit, then used it as your own without ever mentioning Google. - Cubedude04, on 08/20/2008, -13/+27Can we add number10 to our "*****" list?
- apexweb, on 08/20/2008, -8/+19A link to the offending site: http://www.number10.gov.uk/
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -0/+11"You do not require any formal permission to establish hypertext links to this site." Way ahead of the curve
- chkdg8, on 08/20/2008, -9/+20Well, anyone who doesn't think that governments aren't pirates themselves needs a lesson in history.
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -13/+22Who ***** cares?
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -1/+9LOL. look at this
http://www.number10.gov.uk/footer/copyright - inactive, on 08/20/2008, -16/+24Why is he being buried? Pirating != Copyright Violations.
Pirating is when you obtain something illegally, In this case the Copyright Violation was /using/ something illegally. - Kenzan, on 08/20/2008, -0/+8When a humble web developer can call out even the Prime-Minister of England,
~These are just great times we live in folks.
Viva Libertad - twiztidsinz, on 08/20/2008, -1/+7Misleading? no.
Poorly worded / Over sensationalized? yes.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/piracy
piracy
3. The unauthorized duplication of goods protected by intellectual property law (e.g. copying software unlawfully).
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intellectual_propert ...
intellectual property (uncountable)
1. Any product of someone's intellect that has commercial value, especially copyrighted material, patents, and trademarks. - sega01, on 08/20/2008, -5/+11No. Not all Creative Commons licenses require a fee or contacting the author for commercial use, but some do.
- Stonekeeper, on 08/20/2008, -0/+6no no. I'm giving them ALL the credit for the crap they've created...
- agentlame, on 08/20/2008, -1/+7Wow, talk about a COMPLETE misunderstanding of re-distrusting.
You sir, fail at life. - Drull, on 08/20/2008, -0/+6http://www.newmediamaze.com/index.php/antbags-them ...
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -8/+13"Piracy == Copyright Voilations"?
Apparently there is some varied views on the literal definition, but come on, You're going to sit here and tell me that there is nothing sensational about the title? That there's NOTHING misleading? No seriously. ***** you. - alexanEmpire, on 08/20/2008, -2/+7Digg really needs to fix the spammer problem.
- sega01, on 08/20/2008, -3/+7I was replying to "Isn't that also including commercial use should pay a fee?", but yes, the author should have certainly been cognized.
- Otto, on 08/21/2008, -0/+41. No, he's not distributing, he's using. They made the GPL3 just to cover this sort of point, however, WP is GPL2.
2. No, temporary and cached copies are not redistribution. Reference a dictionary and dozens of court cases on the topic.
3. They're denying it because they are correct. Cope.
4. Sorry, but your analogy sucks rocks. Themes are integrated into WordPress and use internal WP functions. Linux has special functions for just this purpose which are marked as GPL-only and which applications have to tell it that they are GPL too, for just this reason.
Next time, try to learn WTF you are talking about before making yourself a) wrong and b) look like an idiot. - John6000, on 08/20/2008, -5/+9nobody
- Otto, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3No, that is absolutely not what "distribution" means. Sorry. find a dictionary.
- Dunhamzzz, on 08/20/2008, -12/+15***** NUMBER 10 !
- mickstephenson, on 08/20/2008, -3/+6They will when he takes number 10 to court
- gbhall, on 08/21/2008, -0/+3Anthony apologises to the guys who designed the govts site:
http://antbag.com/my-regrets-about-the-copyright-d ... - cpsutcliffe, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3A design company did this, not the government, and... the company in question has already put the record straight, but the author is refusing to cooperate because he's getting publicity.
Seems both parties are gaining publicity, while the government who aren't really involved, are being portrayed as pirates. - Harrison88, on 08/20/2008, -11/+14They look nothing like.
This is just like saying I ripped Google's design because I put a text box some where in the page. - syndustry, on 08/20/2008, -1/+4it's being "publicly displayed" not distributed. Your computer is caching it. i.e. no one would argue that watching a live performance is "distribution"...but your mind "caches" the event through memory etc...also you may choose to videotape it. same difference. They're not offering or encouraging the files to be intentionally downloaded for reuse.
- sloppychris, on 08/20/2008, -3/+6Wordpress software is GPL. But themes don't use Wordpress software, they use their own CSS and PHP.
- Drull, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3READ
http://www.newmediamaze.com/index.php/antbags-them ... - shiny100, on 08/20/2008, -6/+9me
- butterslut, on 08/20/2008, -1/+4Those knock off Nigel adverts make me laugh - anyone who is ***** enough to buy their pirate DVD's in the pub deserves to be ridiculed. On a side note I couldn't give a toss about a stolen WordPress theme, in the same way that I don't give a toss about people downloading pirated software/music/games. Hey Mr Brown, maybe we would be more inclined to pay for those kind of things if we didn't get completely screwed over with the price of say a console game compared to the states.
- aliguana, on 08/20/2008, -0/+3£100,000 of tax-payers money, apparently
- inactive, on 08/20/2008, -4/+6Me and 700 people if digging it counts as caring
- CCmachined, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2oh, you mean Britain's inbred retarded child, America?
America is a fragment of Britain, you're just in denial. - Vich, on 08/21/2008, -0/+2According to them, they didn't "forget" they left the accreditation in there intentionally.
- Atomic1fire, on 08/21/2008, -0/+2Yarr says Pirate Minister Gangplanking Gordon Blackbeard Brown.
Humorous but it should be the website creator and not the government that is to blame.
depending on if the piracy accusation has any standing - Otto, on 08/21/2008, -1/+3And they are based on WordPress tags (the_content, the_title, etc) and therefore are derivative. They are also heavily integrated (they make calls to internal WordPress functions directly).
Sorry, but by any standard you care to pick, WP themes are derivatives and subject to the GPL. Cope with it. - citydragon, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2You are Number 6.
- Fosnez, on 08/21/2008, -0/+21. You put the record straight on your blog afterwards
2. You’ll accept my offer of a nice cup of tea.
Number 2 is so typically British I had to have a giggle. - phenom2k7, on 08/21/2008, -0/+2Holy ***** !
- altgeeky1, on 08/20/2008, -2/+3Apparently, only US geeks ever watched the old BBC series The Prisoner (that or there's a lot of auto-bury bots on the prowl).
The CORRECT reply to my post would have been:
>>"You are Number 6". - inactive, on 08/21/2008, -1/+2if you hire crooks to do business for you.. you are an accomplice to the crime.. if the Government aren't going to check and make sure they don't break the same laws they are enforcing on everyone else you will have anarchy.. in the UK
- jaythree9, on 08/21/2008, -0/+1INFORMATION. We need information.
- Whitey07, on 08/22/2008, -0/+1It's hardly downloading the latest Batman film.. everyone steals CSS code.
- Drull, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1http://www.newmediamaze.com/index.php/antbags-them ...
- Otto, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1True, but using the actual function calls to internal functions does count as derivative work.
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