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- Topher06, on 11/08/2007, -0/+86Rogers needs to admit it too, its very obvious on their network as well.
- corlito, on 11/09/2007, -6/+73People wake the ***** up. We are on the verge of losing this. How proud your kids are going to be of you for letting this internet "thing" die down.. Just like we are at our stupid hippie parents who did NOTHING.
- Mackofalltrades, on 11/06/2007, -1/+31***** ROGERS NOW ***** SYMPATICO. Any Canadians want to help me find a new ISP?
- Rawler, on 11/06/2007, -0/+27Edit-- Rogers already has, its been months now
http://torrentfreak.com/rogers-fighting-bittorrent ... - FallOutBoyTonto, on 11/08/2007, -4/+31:(
- CalipsoII, on 11/07/2007, -0/+24Next question: how does Bell differentiate between Heroes.S1E12.LOL.avi and the WoW 2.3 patch? One of these things I pay a $15 /mo subscription fee for.
- ninja0, on 11/07/2007, -2/+18old news, shaws been doing it for years. Thats why there is protocol encryption ;)
- puto, on 11/07/2007, -0/+16How about Shaw?
- theinept, on 11/06/2007, -0/+14It feels like Shaw's doing something goofy too. More important than anything, though, is that opening a Bittorrent client seems to impact all of my traffic including HTTP, both DL and UL, even with only nominal activity in the BT client.
- bofhcabbit, on 11/06/2007, -0/+12@Rawler: Rogers may have admitted it months ago, but they've been doing it for years. I was banned from Rogers for a year, back in 2003. They called it 'excessive usage during peak periods' after I started encrypting BT to avoid their blatant throttling.
- Rawler, on 11/06/2007, -0/+12completely agree.
- jaymulder, on 11/06/2007, -1/+12I have gotten letters about downloading .iso's from Rogers. Wankers.
- Cam_86, on 11/07/2007, -0/+11Shaw does it as well. I can get a solid 300 kb/s connection when i download off the Rev3 servers... Yet when I'm downloading a 5000+ seeded Linux distro, I'm lucky if i get past 100kbs... It also cuts the bandwidth for browsing as well... So i effectually have to chose:Download updates for Linux, or browse the web at a speed that I'm paying for.
Its total BS, and shouldn't be allowed. I get the feeling that this SHOULD be put on the back burner for now in Canada though. The conservatives are just looking to find a principle issue to bring up that'll force the liberals to vote against it, triggering an election. And we all know where the conservatives are on this issue. - nicejai, on 11/06/2007, -0/+11That's why I always go with the smaller companies when it comes to internet access.
I'm using acanac.ca now. Cheap as heck. No limits of any kind. I consistently get 500KBytes/s (*B*ytes!) down, and 80KBytes/s up. A human is always reachable in 5 mins at most, which keeps me happy, which makes them happy because they don't need to spend $$ on support if customers are happy.
I was with igs.net before. Same deal, but a bit ($5 to $7/month) more expensive.
Before that I was with some small company in Quebec (even though I live in Ontario). The sweet end of that deal was that because I was out-of-province and they didn't have an office in Ontario, I didn't have to pay their PST (provincial sales tax for those in the U.S.), so I saved 8% right off the bat. I left though once they starting degrading network performance for a couple days if you averaged 50GB every 2weeks.
After horrific experiences with large companies (Bell and Rogers), I'm sticking with smaller internet companies.
1. They care more about their customers.
2. The owners don't run their businesses like monopolistic asses.
3. Their rates are cheaper, but if they weren't, I'd be willing to pay more for customer service and tech support who give a *****.
4. It's in their best interests to keep you happy, because you being unhappy costs more for them in customer support.
5. They're less likely to use deceptive advertising ("Unlimited access!"*** refers only to "connection time" to Rogers and Bell... which is retarded because even so-called "unlimited" connection time is limited by the number of days in a month), because again, unhappy customers cut more into their profit margins more than they do with larger monopolistic and oligopolistic companies.
So support the mom-n-pop shops if you can!
Vote with your wallet. - inactive, on 11/06/2007, -0/+10They don't. They see bittorrent tracker connections, and bittorrent connections. The can differentiate between other types of connections because of BitTorrent headers.
- REM333, on 11/06/2007, -0/+9At least they are admitting it.
- tjex, on 11/06/2007, -0/+8Don't be so sad... this is how you can get around it: http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_ISPs
- frsrblch, on 11/06/2007, -1/+8Note to self: stick with Telus.
- macbookpromat, on 11/06/2007, -0/+7My house has two different connections, one with Bell, and the other with Videotron. The Bell one is slow as hell, the connection is highly unstable, and the modem is locked up to the gills with ***** Bell firmware. My Videotron connection is fast as hell for downloads, I don't know for torrents but my guess is that it's also fast. Honestly, Canada's ISP's although on the near cutting edge of connection technology (yeah we're still way behind Japan and *****) are a bunch of money grubbing connection Nazis. I don't know how we allow ourselves to be raped by these *****.
- hardran3, on 11/06/2007, -1/+7News Flash! Every ISP does this. If it wasn't for traffic shaping torrents would overwhelm all other bandwidth. Shaping is differnet than disconnecting, QoS anyone?
- Yatti420, on 11/06/2007, -0/+6Rogers been doing this for years.. Now Bell... Bell is gonna tear apart there small third-party ISPs... We need to fight this or else..
- jt18, on 11/09/2007, -0/+6The CEO of Sandvine came to speak at my universtity in Canada. I was really into it until I found out what that company did. This company's services are like the worst Canadian export ever. :(
- cubeeggs, on 11/06/2007, -0/+6You have yet to make a post that is not Ron Paul spam. You appear to have started your account several minutes ago and spammed 4 stories. If you really support Ron Paul, this is not the way to have others join you.
- ninja0, on 11/06/2007, -0/+6shaw is. enable encryption on your client, and try your best to tell me theres no difference. you cant.
- Gagle, on 11/06/2007, -1/+6that's not the point.
- Drax0n, on 11/06/2007, -0/+5Northwestel in the Yukon has been throttleing all Peer to Peer traffic for at least two years. Whats worse is they capped it at 0.5kps
It may also be worth noting that Northwestel owns our ONLY uplink to the internet for the territory, the ONLY local phone provider, they just bought the ONLY local cable provider, and they own half of both of our cell carriers. So in summary they own every single phone, cable, internet and cell company in a territory of 480,000 sq km (about 180,000 sq miles) . And yes they over charge, under deliver, bandwidth throttle, they also charge $10 per GB of bandwidth for every GB over 10 GB you use in a month.
Yea comcast, and bell dont sound so bad new eh? - inactive, on 11/06/2007, -1/+6I dont know but I think COX COMMUNICATIONS in NEVADA does this as well... Matter of fact I even think they are not aware of GAMERS and are cutting off there connections thinking its P2P..
Lately me and my friend both with same ISP constantly get disconnected when HOSTING matches on either Ps3 or 360. Kinda blows.
Not sure but I think a lot of ISP's are doing this under the radar. - Uranium118, on 11/06/2007, -3/+8They better not limit Bell. I pay an extra 20$ to get unlimited bandwidth. Not much considering it's the price of 2 movies and I can max it out to about 700GB per month (letting it download at maximum speed for a month).
And Videotron doesn't seem to care, I approach the 1Mb/s on my private trackers. - anonydigg, on 11/06/2007, -0/+5Teksavvy.com
- carbon12, on 11/06/2007, -0/+5It's happening with the smaller ISPs as well. I live in Alberta and our local ISP, "Persona", is throttling our bandwidth. I know one of their repair technicians and he says the company refuses to admit it even to their own employees!
Anyone with Telus having the same problems? - hawarkarem, on 11/06/2007, -2/+6Its up to the ISP whether they want throttle protocols or not. I think thats ok. It's when they lie that they dont when then blatantly do to keep customers that pisses us all off.
- djbon2112, on 11/06/2007, -1/+5Well, every ISP is doing it now. There's gotta be some way to tell ALL of them collectively "***** OFF". Every one of them.
- mackdaddy187, on 11/06/2007, -0/+4Rogers stopped throttling (for me at least) 4-5 months ago and now they are back to throttling it. So pissed about paying 50 bucks a month for browsing sites.
- Xondar, on 11/06/2007, -1/+5I suspect my ISP, Shaw Cable, throttles back BitTorrent traffic. However, I would switch ISPs if I found hard evidence to that effect. I like BitTorrent and I use it extensively, why should I pay an ISP for a service they aren't letting me use?
- Speed, on 11/06/2007, -0/+4Well, with Shaw it's damn near impossible to tell if they're throttling anything since it's so bloody slow as it is.
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -0/+4Maybe we don't care.
- anonydigg, on 11/07/2007, -0/+4I got a Rogers representative to admit to it. He said they had sent out an email about it which I had never received and got them to forward it to me.
I immediately canceled my service and moves to Bell (which wasn't throttling at the time). Then they started doing it and I moved to Teksavvy. Their download rate is a consistent 549.73KB/s for top tier servers. - inactive, on 11/06/2007, -0/+4Tor is slow, and it's not good to plug all that bandwidth through 3 other people's computers, as it's their bandwidth you're using. What I do, though, is only have tracker connections through Tor. As a side-effect, I can access demonoid trackers too! Hurray for technology!
- anonydigg, on 11/06/2007, -0/+4Plugging Bittorrent into Tor is extremely damaging to the Tor network. Don't do it. If you must, then pay for a VPN solution like Relakks or buy a VPS and learn to download torrents via the command line and ftp/ sftp / web serve them to your house computer.
- dianebl, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3You haven't been paying attention. It doesn't matter if you encrypt p2p anymore. Shaw and Rogers have been traffic shaping based on the number of connections also
- CheeseburgerBro, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3Rogers does it, too -- they just continue to lie about it.
You wouldn't BE-LIEVE the lengths hackers around the world have to go to on my behalf to keep the pipes open. Bless the eternal arms race. - Drull, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3(If you're into really ***** speeds, stupid monthly limits and retarded customer service)
- WolfDV, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3Shaw works fine . .. just enable encrytion, and use non-standard ports.
- anonydigg, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3Teksavvy - they work where ever Bell does. (Teksavvy.com)
- seanthebond, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3I use Aliant, and the connection sucks, and I think that they put me on some blacklist due to my constant torrenting. I torrent for half a day, then go to play Xbox Live and its laggy as hell, same with webpages.
- opticrime, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3in related news, my crappy router admits to throttling bittorrent by crashing and burning every time i have more than about a dozen connections open
- jeremymccurdy, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3Here in the maritimes, Eastlink seems to throttle torrents too, I can only get decent speeds when I use uTorrent with encryption.
- Avengelist, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3Eastlink DOES throttle, and not only torrents, I suspect. I had a conversation the other night with one of the techs, and he pretty much came out and said "use encryption". They don't use Sandvine though, they use Ellacoya, and I don't know much about them. Aliant claims they don't throttle, but yet they are part of the Bell/Sympatico "family", so I suspect asshattery and lies on their part... but that's nothing new.
- Etheo, on 11/06/2007, -0/+3oooooooh, so thats' what it was! I've always been having trouble seeding and browsing at the same time, but I always thought that was the client's fault. Even though now I know where the problem lies, there's nothing I can do about it...
- ChrisrWilliams, on 11/06/2007, -1/+4You ***** *****, ***** you Bell. Between you and Dick all Rogers, I have no decent service provider to turn too.
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