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- synystar, on 09/10/2008, -1/+88They're not handing out prison sentences to users. He was providing the service. But still, it's absolutely horrible that someone can get 18 months in prison for a crime that doesn't hurt a soul.
I admit I don't know very much about this case. Did he get rich? They should at least have to prove that the people who downloaded torrents he tracked would have purchased the products if they were not freely available, and that he was benefiting personally at the expense of others. This is a problem that needs to solved immediately. Am I paying taxes to send smart kids to prison for what amounts to a hobby? - nickpick, on 09/11/2008, -4/+57This is just great! They've sent half-a-dozen educated individuals, capable of administrating torrent trackers, into a federal prison, where they'll be fed from your taxes, do the laundry and get regularly pounded by robbers, rapists and so forth.
In all honesty, wouldn't it be more just and cost-efficient to give them half a year social service administering the websites for public organisations, which lack the funds to employ web-administrators? We're not talking about rampaging mass-murderers here. - inactive, on 09/11/2008, -4/+57***** THE RIAA
- shamess, on 09/10/2008, -3/+32He probably did get rich. Judging by the money Mininova and TPB make, the bittorrent tracker business is a good one to be in, so long as you don't get caught.
We have to admit that we're all committing a crime (whether we like it or not, we have to stick to the law) when we download something that's copyrighted without paying for it, but a reasonable "sentence" would have for the guy to be fined all the money he's made, and then any punitive damages. Jail time is just stupid. I don't know about America, but in England nearly all our prisons are full, and we definitely can't spare a cell for these crimes which hurt no body. - compu73rg33k, on 09/10/2008, -6/+325 months in prison and then 5 months home confinement? ... seriously? ... Aren't the laws supposed to reflect the will of the people? I don't think anybody cares that these guys made a little file sharing community. *sigh* Ridiculous
- nick111, on 09/11/2008, -1/+25Yes, but it's a crime against a coporation and in America, corporations are more important than people.
- borez, on 09/11/2008, -6/+28"18 months in prison and a $20,000 fine"
For running a virtual library, WTF is going on. - gts1983, on 09/11/2008, -4/+26As a man who served 5 Months in prison for EliteTorrents.....5 months was a ***** plenty!! 18 is just outta control.
- inactive, on 09/11/2008, -5/+23Mulder and Skully would ***** you up.
- 321george, on 09/09/2008, -23/+40***** the FBI
- marcoponce, on 09/11/2008, -1/+18THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO MOVE YOUR SERVERS TO SWEDEN! :)
- JacobAus, on 09/11/2008, -5/+22Too bad the time doesn't match the crime.
- denisederrikson, on 09/11/2008, -6/+2118 months.... i see...
and what is the conviction for armed robbery? or rape? or murder?
with all the ***** that goes on on the city streets we are wasting useful manpower seeking geeks that share movies?
dang this makes no sense !!!! - CalcProgrammer1, on 09/11/2008, -0/+13People? Sorry, my friend, but this is corporate America. Everybody knows laws are the product of corrupt money wielding organizations and corporations and groups such as RIAA/MPAA and that the people have little power whatsoever in getting their point across.
- apackofmonkeys, on 09/11/2008, -2/+15Correction: he's offering identical copies of goods. The companies still have in their posession everything they had before.
- AaronCo, on 09/11/2008, -3/+15From the people that brought you the war on drugs comes a new, exciting line of wars on the American people... it's... the War on File Sharing!
Our leaders: Boldly justifying fascism since the 1950s! - GunOfSod, on 09/11/2008, -1/+13In reply to your thread I have posted this link to Copyrighted material
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4390105/Blade.Runn ...
YOU ARE NOW A CRIMINAL.
Accordingly you are now liable for maintaining this link, and are now liable to 18 months in prison and a $20000 fine.
THAT is exactly what it is. - norman619, on 09/11/2008, -1/+12FTA:
"The jury was told that Dove was responsible for managing and recruiting the crucial ‘uploaders’ on the site (original seeders) and that he also operated a server which was used to distribute pirate material. "
I'm sorry but how ***** up is it to expect a group of people who don't understand the technology or the law supposedly broken involved to decide the legality of its use? It's a bit like being forced to use some random person off the street to defend your case in court against a lawyer who graduated from Harvard Law. This is criminal. Google is regularly used to track down torrents of copyrighted material yet they aren't being hauled into court. Torrent trackers are no different. Most ignorant people think torrents = pirate. That's a bit like saying all Hispanics in this country are illegal aliens. - asus2000, on 09/11/2008, -1/+12The $20k fine surprised me. I thought they wanted that much for each mp3!
- MtheoryX, on 09/11/2008, -1/+11Prisons and jails are pretty full in the U.S. as well.
I just saw a special on National Geographic (it was called Prison Nation or something) that said the U.S. has 5% of the world's population, yet 25% of the world's prisoners, by numbers. - nickpick, on 09/11/2008, -1/+11Copyrighted, not stolen.
- coalduststar, on 09/11/2008, -1/+9Fascist pigs! You don't have enough jails to hold everyone!
- sb66, on 09/11/2008, -0/+8What's the worst crime in america? Hurting the profitability of your corporate masters.
- inactive, on 09/11/2008, -1/+9http://isohunt.com
- krekc, on 09/11/2008, -1/+8Rapists, murderers, child molesters, and drunk drivers get lighter sentences every single day. This is disgusting.
- Murdats, on 09/11/2008, -1/+8why would you destroy a good service like TOR?
- inactive, on 09/11/2008, -0/+7Be careful. Remember that seven ate nine.
- nick111, on 09/11/2008, -1/+8Dugg up on account of your clearly imagining The Pirate Bay as actual pirates, on an island somewhere.
- DteK, on 09/11/2008, -0/+7this commenter said it best
"@1 - No joke. Should have just went to the theater with a gun and robbed the actual film at gunpoint, probably would have gotten a lighter sentence." - grimfandango, on 09/11/2008, -2/+8"their island"?? WTF. They're in Sweden, it's a country in Europe.
- kamisama, on 09/11/2008, -2/+8Sorry but i don't buy for a second that guy could have made cash on that site. Quality bandwidth is a quite costly affair if we're talking about torrent trackers this size and with such a large user base.
He perhaps deserves some kind of punishment, like a fine or something, or community service, but jail time is just overkill. There are child molesters that got away with less for crying out loud. - Sommerlost, on 09/11/2008, -0/+5couldn't agree with you more
- demigod, on 09/11/2008, -0/+5Low hanging fruit. If they were to drag Google into court it would cost them a fortune and they know it. Take this kid whos running a site and make him an example. Look at Mitnick. Same deal.
- sonycam, on 09/11/2008, -0/+5Google can be used to find torrents, child pornography, illegal hardcore pornography, suicide techniques, bomb making techniques, hate propaganda.... yet torrent search engines are the enemy? Either take action against every search engine used to find torrents, or none.
- inactive, on 09/11/2008, -0/+5Im going to download 'Pirates of the Caribbean' in his honor
- inactive, on 09/11/2008, -0/+5heh heh.....head....master....
- gts1983, on 09/11/2008, -0/+5no and no, We were sent to one of those federal resort type places. No bars No Cells, No rapes, Decent food, but it still sucked
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+5I loved ET, great site. I'm guessing it was a lower security prison, but 5 months is 5 months too long! One of the rappers I listen to did 10 days (in the SHU) for holding a loaded gun to someone's head, and you got 5 months for doing nothing that hurt society in any way imaginable. ***** that.
And this 18 month sentence is... beyond comprehension. People, raise some hell. These people handing out sentences are not your peers. They should not be judging you. - hogderf, on 09/11/2008, -1/+6Ah, a tragic loss indeed... but a larger step towards global file sharing (your efforts will not be forgotten)
Here's a toast to you and all the others like you; especially mininova and piratebay (...all hail sweden's piracy laws!!!) - inactive, on 09/11/2008, -1/+6LOL
How is imprisoning someone punishment for ***** running torrents? Prison is only used in the event someone is a threat to society.
Same with ***** spammers. You don't jail people for this *****. At most you FINE them. - asus2000, on 09/11/2008, -2/+7It doesn't seem so "little" to me.
- RDA4Prez09, on 09/11/2008, -0/+4I bet the F.B.I. and R.I.A.A. view posts on DIGG that relate to them....sneaky bastards.
- clsslc, on 09/11/2008, -0/+4So true. Jails are for keeping dangerous people away from the public, to protect the public from someone who would do harm unto them. It doesn't make sense to put a this guy in jail. Give him a fine, but don't put him in jail; this is just ridiculous.
- GunOfSod, on 09/11/2008, -4/+8By your logic, if you post a url to copyrighted content on a website you are responsible for, then you are now liable to 18 months in prison and a $20000 fine. Or If I post a comment on Digg that contains copyrighted information, then Digg is liable for the same penalties.
You all better be very careful what you do now. It's not enough to just provide copyright information for download, but if ANYONE accepts anonymous comments links etc on a blog, webpage, tracking site, ftp site they can be found liable.
This person has not stolen anything, he has not even infringed copyright. He matains a tracker. - TheHayze, on 09/11/2008, -0/+4The trick is to beat the ***** out of someone the very first day I hear.
- illDecree, on 09/11/2008, -0/+4So true
- Spuy767, on 09/11/2008, -0/+4THey say the trick is, beat someone's ass the first day, or become someone's bitch.
- ren1999, on 09/11/2008, -0/+3Copyright infringement is Tort Law not Criminal Law. Not one person should do prison for this. Fine them under the jurisdiction of Tort Law. The U.S. better get the RIAA and MPAA under control or there will be massive protests and unrest. Furthermore, have these organizations paid the artists any money from these settlements yet? It is time to declare these organizations criminal for failing to pay any settlement money to their clients.
- oxymoron69, on 09/11/2008, -1/+409f9 1102 9d74 e35b d841 56c5 6356 88c0
18months? ***** the US government ....they're always stroking some companies *****. -
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