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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+113I used to hate bill, i mean just overall.
now lately him and his company arent such a bad thing anymore in my mind - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -11/+115I don't LOVE Bill Gates, but you have to remember that the tech CEOs aren't the ones who are all-for DRM. They just know that to have any relationship with the *AAs, they have to work like they hate piracy.
- BigErn2, on 10/12/2007, -7/+85Aww, group hug.
- TravisS, on 10/12/2007, -8/+82Maybe he should buy the RIAA so they won't sue 10 year olds and dead people anymore.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+76Let's see the MPAA or the RIAA trying to jail him. Ha ha ha ha ha!!! Funny old world.
- Bdog2g2, on 10/12/2007, -6/+73the difference is....he can afford to be sued....hell he could probably afford to buy the RIAA.
- Oly701, on 10/12/2007, -6/+60You should suggest this to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, it would definately be making the world a better place.
- Kazanoe, on 10/12/2007, -6/+56Well, I doubt this will ammount to much.
the RIAA is made up of too many pansies to do anything against him - pozzoe, on 10/12/2007, -10/+54I heard... he actually uses a pirated copy of WinXP he downloaded in PirateBay.... Do you think he made his fortune by buying legal software?
- superal1394, on 10/12/2007, -6/+45Bills cool, Microsoft needs help.
- Kazanoe, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39I like Bill, hes a nice guy appearantly :D
(one of my friends talked to him for a bit) - VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -4/+34You can't be jailed for admitting to something like that. There has to be evidence. Just like how you can't be jailed for admitting to drug use.
- brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -9/+34I don't think he's changed much. We've just found people a lot worse than him to hate.
- Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27I dig it. I think it's pretty cool that Microsoft has changed in such a way that they're, well, not evil anymore. They actually seem honest -- Or at least more honest than a lot of other companies out there.
I never thought Gates (himself) was evil, although the rest of his company at times used to make it seem that way. The fact that he isn't greedy with his money is also amazing. - MrCrushington, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25I've met him once or twice, and I always wondered why everyone gave such a cool guy *****...he worked for his money, and yes, he used bad business practices, but 90% of well-known companies do.
I don't know, I always thought the man himself was just misunderstood, and that his company misrepresents him. - r121, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21@pozzoe - I wonder if he's figured out how to crack the WGA?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19That's a straw-man argument. Nobody has been sued by the MPAA for -watching- a video on youtube. So at least be logically consistent or you only hurt the argument against the MPAA.
- Havs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17He did it because it's so easy to pull up videos on youtube. That's what the **AA's don't get. The consumer wants a distribution method that's fast and easy to use. Do you think the richest man in the world wouldn't have plunked down a couple bucks to watch a couple globetrotters games? The problem is, there's nowhere to find things like this legally, so even the rich are forced into piracy. The **AA's are so busy bickering over how to cripple the media with DRM that they're missing out on an innumerable amount of sales. And the sad thing is, once they actually agree on how heavily to restrict their media so that the thieves.... err... I mean consumers can have access to the media, they overprice everything so that most people don't want to buy it. They need to wake up, get rid of the DRM so the files are easy to use on ANY device, and price things reasonably. Once they do that they'll be surprised at how much cash rolls in.
- shoover, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Sony, the new Microsoft...
- paradoxic, on 10/12/2007, -12/+25Talk about insane, the threads suggesting he buy the RIAA over helping people who ARE STARVING TO DEATH.
Lets get real guys, you've gotta be really out of touch thinking that the world would be a better place having Bill own the RIAA vs him using money to actually help people who are actually suffering the basic needs of existance.
Those lawsuits are just PR moves by the RIAA and are extremely rare. Way to fall for the mass media bs.
sad. - node3, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20@PathDaemon
Except the fact is that Bill Gates is *very much* for DRM (also, he's not MS's CEO, but I don't think that was critical to you point). WMA/WMV, WGA, Xbox mod-chip detection, the need for the Xbox mod-chip to begin with, XP authorization, Office searching for duplicate serials over the network, even MS's love of serial numbers is a form (extremely ineffective) of DRM (if you don't want to call it a form of DRM, at least it's a predecessor).
My point here isn't that Bill Gates is evil, but that Microsoft has been extremely proactive with rolling out DRM, and while some DRM is going to be unavoidable, he, in his various leadership roles at MS, bears the brunt of the responsibility for the level of DRM his company has put out there.
This shows the problem with those who are quick to condemn others for "stealing" so-called intellectual property. They really have absolutely no understanding what it's like to be an average person. Putting a video of you and your friends singing some pop song just seems like an extremely normal and fun thing to do, and it seems *absolutely ridiculous* to think that you should have to pay royalties to do so. Once he puts himself into the shoes of doing something an average person wants to do, what's the result? He becomes a criminal by his very own standards.
Here's to hoping (against reasonable expectations) that this experience will bring about a saner view of DRM from Microsoft. - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14May I suggest someone make a t-shirt in honor of his quote?
Here's a start:
http://www.permission3000.com/storage/stolen_or_copied.jpg - lazyguy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16thats because he uses azereus, not utorrent
- btipling, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16There's a Microsoft cease and desist letter on the Pirate Bay http://static.thepiratebay.org/ms-loveletter.txt
- EDubya, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20Bill watched a video on YouTube, wow. I doubt he had 10 files queued up on utorrent in the background. Honestly, that's the difference between a pirate and a surfer.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13No one is suing Gates (yet)!! He just admitted he watched a pirated version of a movie on Youtube because DRM is a pain in the A.
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Piracy has been one of the perks of being a computer nerd since the beginning. It's only recently that people stopped being discrete about it. Now it's common for nerds to consider free media a human right.
- drawkbox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11piracy built windows, adobe (photoshop) and many other apps. pirating or allowing pirating to get users hooked is a long known software jedi trick. Once the user gets a job, they recommend the software at work. Its like candy cigarettes. Take any software champ, at some point in time they were allowed to be pirated if they needed quick mass appeal.
- Ilyanep, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11/He/ doesn't berate you. The people who still work there do.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I will say the same words when i get sued
- actorboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"WSJ: But those were stolen, correct?"
"GATES: Stolen's a strong word. It's copyrighted content that the owner wasn't paid for. So yes."
I think the "So yes" pretty clearly says he considers it stealing. - Wiggles2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Bill Gates Confessions, tonight on Cinemax.
- Butros, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Digg that. Seriously how would you even know what you're watching was pirated on youtube if there's nothing in the title or preview frame to suggest it? And some companies even post copywritten clips on youtube for promo purposes (like G4's star trek cribs stuff).
- misinformation, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Since you asked, my guess would be the language and attitude of the post. The content of the post wasn't worthwhile for a discussion thread. Cool down a bit. I didn't knock your post, just giving you what my thoughts are on why it happened.
- drawkbox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7piracy is marketing that costs $0 to extend your user base, and hopefully hook them sometime down the road. Pay per use OS, yes it is coming.
- Continuum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@actorboy
Whether Billy considers it stealing or not does not make it so. The law says its not stealing, its copy right infringement. - Cyborg771, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11The RIAA is almost as bad with lawsuits as Disney is. They sued some kid because his personal website had a Mickey Mouse background.
- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It's easier to go to YouTube than to go to a store.
- RJNavarrete, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Harlem Globetrotters? hah. WTF?
- dotuplink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's better to be a Pirate than to join the Navy...
- drawkbox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5From the comments on the article:
"Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, but people don't pay for the software," he said. "Someday they will, though. As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." (Bill Gates on software piracy in China, July 1998) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6What Gates should've said is that the television medium is in a growing-stage where content is being adapted to distribution mediums that were never envisioned.
The fact of the matter is, no one's going to pay $$$ just to watch a 30 second blooper clip. Ads are obtrusive and annoying when forced into online distribution. The same goes for DRM.
A brand new model is going to have to be invented so that we don't have to worry about what's copyrighted or not, but the appropriate parties are still compensated for their works. - kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"The Internet's biggest social failure has been that it has served as enabling technology for rampant cheating and theft - and the rationalization of it. The Internet makes stealing so easy that most people don't even think about it."
Sorry. Personally, I think the Internet's biggest social failure has been that it has served as enabling technology for rampant legal abuse, patent abuse - and the rationalization of it. The Internet (and other's complete misunderstanding of what it IS) makes this abuse so easy that most people don't even think about it.
Oh. Well, that and Friendster. - hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9No, he got modded down for the word after "you" in his post.
- gukid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I hate hate hate hate hate hate the assumption that if something is downloaded and watched instead of purchased that it's a lost sale. FREE SAMPLE. If I ate a free sample at a grocery store, is that a lost sale? NO. There is the chance that I only tried the sample because it was free. There is a chance I only watched this one particular show or movie because it was FREE. Had it not been free, I would not have purchase or watched it. Hell, I probably would never have heard about it or had any interest in it at all. If people don't want to buy something, they WILL NOT buy it. Watching a movie at my friends place for free is NOT a lost sale. And as long as record companies, movie studios, artists and actors are still swimming in a scrooge mcduck money vault, I will not feel a single bit of pity for them.
- nerditup, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Bill Gates is finally gaining the "nice" person appearance, too bad he's stepping down soon. Steve Jobbs will take his place as the Monopoly Guy! :) *Thanks for the free parking*
- lukas88, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I also like Bill and I tolerate microsoft. Although the quality of their software is less than stellar, I don't just count it off as trash. For the average PC user, there is no better alternative. My dad, bless his heart, wouldn't be able to do a damn thing with linux, and it is the same story with most of the people I know.
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Actually, I just looked it up. I used the wrong one. It should be discreet. "People should be discreet about piracy instead of proclaiming it a human right." I guess that's -Digg for both of us and the guy who digged you up to 2.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discreet - Splizxer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7"I didn't get rich by writing a lot of cheques, hahah ahhahahah ahhaha". -Bill Gates
- diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, at least Bill Gates is honest. Everyone has used something pirared at least once lol
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