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- crawfishsoul, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42Nice spam article for Sphere. First person I actually hear using the term "Iconistan" in conversation gets punched in the throat.
- Guder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15For Wordpress there is a guy named Alex King trying to centralize all those icons under one icon with his Wordpress Plugin Share This http://alexking.org/blog/2006/12/12/share-this-13. He's also set up a site just for the icon to get a single icon that means Sharing http://www.shareicons.com .
- crawfishsoul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15strictnein - Except that there really isn't anything newsworthy in this article. 12 mundane paragraphs about social news icons at the bottom of blog posts, of which those icons have been around for months and months. Then a paragraph talking about a product to put those icons on your blog posts and a link. Looks like a clever little PR 'news' story to me.
- Jofaba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Hmm. A Digg article two days ago about Craigslist lead me to disable my own Google ads (I only made like $1.80 in two months anyway) and this converation (and more specifically, this article: http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/93-its-the-content-not-the-icons ) has changed my mind about using my icons. I wonder how many articles it's going to take until I decide to just shut my whole site down =P
Seriously though, it's better to learn these things now. Hopefully new sites are allowed a few free Mulligans.
EDIT: It doesn't break my heart or anything but I'm curious, why the digg downs? - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I really don't get the sites and blogs that literally have 20 little icons under each post. Just inane. Point of the article: Pick two or three sites that you find enjoyable and promote those. It'll work out better for you and your users.
- mecole21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I love the fact that there is even a facebook icon now... its like who's really gonna promote an article on facebook..
- contextclouds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I mis-replied, so here's a haiku:
Clicking to reply
caused me to have to log in
and now I post this. - contextclouds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Nerd Popularity Contest, eh?
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. - DarthTurducken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5ONE ICON TO RULE THEM ALL!
- GabrielS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5+1 for you
You're adding to the discussion. You downvote trolls, not people that are actively engaged in the discussion. - DarthTurducken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"but when replying to the top post only to be near the top?"
Like you just did? And like I'm doing now? Let's stop kidding ourselves, Digg is a big nerd popularity contest. - miglaugh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Couldn't have even checked that the word in quotes was typo free?
I know no one gives a ***** about the language anymore, but c'mon. - ngmcs8203, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Ok ok... I won't use Iconistan... but what about Iconstan, as the title of this Digg states?
It's bad enough that people who leave comments don't read articles, but the person who posts the DIGG?!?!? - Jofaba, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Thanks for sharing that, that's really cool. Hopefully someone codes that into a Drupal module. I'd honestly rather have something like that than the 7 I mentioned ealier.
- crawfishsoul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Let's stop kidding ourselves, Digg is a big nerd popularity contest."
Who gets to be prom king? - simpleid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2After reading this I got the sense that down the road websites like this one will become the "center of the internet," where user-submitted and controlled content will be the ground zero for information 'entering the internet.'
Digg.com might explode more so than ever before even yet if it becomes a mainstream source of information. Say Yahoo, MSN and Google start pointing to Digg more... just imagine what will happen to this site soon.
I was looking up Digg on Alexa the other day, comparing it against CNN and other major sites, Digg is still actually relatively small... there's so much room to grow it seems that a large majority of the internet is actually -unaware- of Digg. As far as the graphs show, this seems to be true.
I know people say that the information isn't credible here, but ***** how long have I heard that come up about Wiki, and look now there's more to it then the encyclopedia!
Can I buy stock?
Anyone? - bexmex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And the other one:
http://bookmarkit.org/mark.htm?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigg.com%2F&title=digg - bexmex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For some reason, Digg munged those URLs... I'll try again:
http://bookmarkit.org - g0rdy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"added value" "enriched user experience"
ugh .. where's the anandtech rolling eyes smilie... - yllabianbitpipe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here's a WordPress plug in that is less intrusive. Instead of icons, just a strip of text. You can easily chop the text down if you only want one or two social sites.
http://www.alleba.com/blog/2006/10/07/name-dropper-wordpress-plugin/ - bexmex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Or, you can use bookmark it:
http://bookmarkit.org
http://bookmarkit.org/mark.htm?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigg.com%2F&title=digg
replace those 20 icons with one that supports all 20 sites... - GabrielS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No love for the Washington Post. I noticed yesterday that their site has exactly the same social networking buttons.
I do not know what date these were added to their site.
If I were one of these social networking sites I would want the button, when clicked, to take you to the site to see the discussion so as to avoid "ghost clicking". - g0rdy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is there a FF plug-in that removes those from webpages?
- ZombieJesus3000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not too fond of the Iconistan thing. It seems disingenuous to me. To me it seems like Digg is a place for people to post things they thought were cool. To go around whoring yourself to be posted on Digg is cheating. Of course it takes two to tango, a digg user at least has to be complicit. But still I just can't stand when every single post on a blog or a video blog has a "Digg this" link underneath it.
- rzklkng, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's not about whoring, it's about facillitating sharing.
- Jofaba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@kace7 Well mostly the discussion that took place in the Digg comments. I personally am numb to advertisements on websites and when I put mine up, and I'm so used to seeing them that it even felt like it made the site more professional looking. But I wasn't making any money to speak of, and some people seem to be very against them. As a fresh site trying to get readers, it didn't make sense to ostracize anyone for a few pennies.
(No pun intended) - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, look up "Iconistan" in the dictionary for chrissakes.
- rzklkng, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use it on my site, and I like the fact that it doesn't dominate the page. The article from 37Signals that Jofbra mentioned is what turned me off to the strip of icons approach. Alex King's web site is getting crushed - and your URL has a period at the end. The URL he provides in the documentation (for Wordpress) is http://alexking.org/projects/wordpress . The version I use also has a send-via-email as well as the usual social bookmarks. If your curious, my site is in my profile.
- MeatBiProduct, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Its called whoring where i come from.
- DarthTurducken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
Great War Games reference. - Obelia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The ones I've come across are mostly unobtrusive. But I wouldn't put any on my sites, because if everyone does it it's just a bunch of advertising for social network sites. They can do their own promotion well enough, and I wouldn't presume to tell my visitors where they should go to share stories, just like I wouldn't tell them which search engine to use.
- tommasz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just switched my blog to Share This. It's neat and tidy and covers everything I want.
- kace7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0so, why'd you disable your ads? I searched for craigs list articles: they dont want to make money? Whatever. But, now you don't either? I'm confused.
- MrSunshine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Iconstan? I call it "attention whoring".
- lotion, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3@ngmcs8203:
It's bad enough when being overly critical of a minor grammatical error but when replying to the top post only to be near the top? - RandomGuySteve, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"Alexa"
Anyone who uses it or cites it as a reliable source deserves a nice big cockpunching. - enjourni, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3crawfishsoul- you might as well get over it. That is how buzz works- invent a new word and encourage people to debate over it. People will go to the reference site just to find out what everyone is arguing about.
Even the original article seems to get all upset about stupid little icons at the bottom of posts. But what about the basic blog roll? Similiar "crass self-promotion": the person posting the roll is hoping that when traffic shows up on a target site, that if their own blog is good enough they will get links back. Thereby increasing their own traffic, yadda, yadda.
Look guys, the web is interconnected. Nobody holds a gun to someone viewing a web page and tells them they have to hit on that digg link and submit an article. Links are votes, and people vote when they like what they're viewing. I say if people want to submit my blog's articles to digg, why not at least make it easy for them to do?
Instead of whining that people are somehow "abusing" some sort of system, why not look at it from the perspective of providing added value to a user's experience? - GabrielS, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Who wouldn't add a "Digg this" icon to their blog? You're simply giving the reader the opportunity to broaden the exchange with a wider audience.
My issue is being able to add a 'digg' without actually going to the social networking site to participate or at least view the conversation within the community. - UrlorJkron, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Hmph. I thought this would be about Icons-tan.
- Jofaba, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Well I'm guilty of having seven icons per entry currently on my site. I'm personally waiting to see which are used more. I'll probably cut it down to 3 or 4 tops in a couple of months. The main reason that I put so many up in the first place though, was because I don't know what services/sites all my users have as a favorite. Is it really that distracting? I don't see why it'd matter. It's at the end of the posts and they're tiny.
- mapkinase, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4-stan reference indicate clear impact of incessant publicising of Islam and Muslim countries in mass media. As Borat would have said: "Thank you!"
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4I didn't know that every article written about a company is spam. A guy at Sphere made an interesting (possibly?) observation about a trend and gave it a name and has some ideas on the impact of the trend. That's news. Whether or not you find it interesting is another story.
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