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- dukeeeey, on 12/24/2007, -1/+126Australia is moving towards Chinese style internet censorship.
- ericbramlett, on 12/24/2007, -0/+120That's absolutely insane. I've got an idea - why don't the parents take some responsibility?
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -0/+62That is NOT what the internet is about. This is a scheme by the higher ups to control the internet and the voice of the people. Aussies should fight against this type of b/s.
Saying it's to protect children is *****. This only limts people. Parents should do their job of policing what their children view instead. - damnitdaniel, on 12/24/2007, -0/+61I'm curious how this affects visitors from other countries accessing content based in Australia...
- ryanward, on 12/24/2007, -0/+49That's horrible.
- autosovereign, on 12/06/2008, -1/+49Internet. Serious Business.
- missingnoh4x, on 12/24/2007, -0/+42How would this even be implemented?
- silentphoenix, on 12/24/2007, -1/+37aka....censorship
- TubeDigger, on 12/24/2007, -4/+35Austrailia u were cool wtf happend?
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -0/+30Good question. This is politics done by people who have ABSOLUTELY no fundamental understanding of the internet. It is some people in power who want control of something that is NOT supposed to be controlled.
It's like Ted Stevens having any say what so ever on any matter related to the internet when he's proven how completely inept he is on the subject. - samssf, on 12/24/2007, -0/+27What is so hard to grasp about this concept: When you place restrictions on products, services, content, etc.... mostly what happens is you limit and piss of people who are legitimately consuming the product or service, and only slightly control those who are doing it illegitimately. In this specific case, the kids who want to see porn are still going to get to see porn, either by lying online, magazines, or some other cleaver solution.
When will humans learn to tackle the source of the problem rather than trying to be forcefully controlling and patch stuff up with restrictions. If you want to stop kids from viewing adult content, you either have to make the kids not want to see it, feed their appetite another way, or get parents to take more action. Distribute free software to parents that will monitor kids' browsing or something.
It's the same as with guns in schools. Putting more cops in schools isn't the answer. Trying to figure out why the kids are bringing guns to schools, and then tackling that, is the answer. The later will be very a difficult process, but the first solution doesn't work any better.
When you try to prevent someone from doing something they were already doing, it just creates challenge, which makes the person want to succeed even more.... which usually makes them more successful at what they were doing, and makes the problem worse. Why can't anyone ***** realize this? - inactive, on 12/24/2007, -0/+27Now why would they do that, when the Nanny State can just instead play on fear, using it to usurp the rights of the people?
- viciv, on 12/24/2007, -1/+27i thought australia is a free country...seriously..
- xkorbin, on 12/24/2007, -1/+24Sweden deserves notable mention..
- rarson, on 12/24/2007, -0/+19It's like saying, "You're not allowed to drive your car on this road because it's too dangerous."
Why do so many people feel the need to save us from ourselves? Political correctness is the catalyst that set all this off. Once people started buying into the ***** notion that you can't say certain things to certain people, they began to feel that they had the right to not be offended. This has mutated into people feeling like they have the right to tell you what you can and can't do under the guise of morality. It's all *****.
I'm a big boy, I can surf the internet without running into something I find offensive, and even if I do, then I can close the browser and move on with my life. I don't need to be protected from the internet. If it's kids you're worried about, then perhaps you should start looking at the parents. It's not government's job to be their babysitter, and I sure as hell am not paying taxes for it to be some sort of internet nanny. - TheLoneHoot, on 12/24/2007, -3/+20I thought with getting rid of Howard they'd be less right wing about things.
- rarson, on 12/24/2007, -3/+17Which is why I'm allowed to smoke pot in Amsterdam, but not the US.
I mean, I do agree with you in many ways, but there are a few issues where other countries are better off. - rarson, on 12/24/2007, -0/+13No, we care because we understand the implications. Did you even read the article?
- Payoff, on 12/24/2007, -1/+13and Ireland... they have good Privacy laws and have a nice "reporter without borders" rating.
Look it up on the god dam internets if you don't trust in me. - Dylson, on 12/24/2007, -0/+11http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/6977/helloserio ...
- brickbat, on 12/24/2007, -0/+11Anyone that really thinks that this about kids accessing porn is crazy. Its strictly focussed on tracking what Australians are doing at Australian websites.
So for example, this will not stop them going to redtube and getting as much hardcore porn as they can imagine.
This is just another small step in tracking us. - 3tcp, on 12/24/2007, -0/+10If they can't figure out on their own they can always get some help from China and Saudi Arabia
- ScooterG, on 12/24/2007, -0/+10This is despicable. There is a plethora of software available to parents to block inappropriate content from their children... ***** use it?
If the Australian government must get involved in this issue, then how about using the millions of dollars they will spend on implementing this ***** to distribute free copies of this already available content-blocking software to parents? - BurningApple, on 12/24/2007, -0/+10"Can you digg a hole..."
Digg? Okay, some people spend too much time here. - bxblox, on 12/24/2007, -0/+10theyre breaking their internet
- shiny100, on 12/24/2007, -0/+10trying to control the internet is something no goverment should try to enforce. It is morally wrong. Let alone technically impossible.
- estvir, on 12/24/2007, -2/+12Your visit to a country is based upon if they have a ratings system or not? Wow..
- 3tcp, on 12/24/2007, -1/+10Authoritarian is something that politicians from both ends of the political spectrum can aspire to. We have it in the US too, just look at george bush and hillary clinton
- robojiannis, on 12/24/2007, -1/+10Children are creative enough to find a way to the censored material. If they want to see porn, they will see porn.
Apart from that remember what Bill Hicks once said? - inactive, on 12/24/2007, -0/+9Incrementalism, stepping stones...the infrastructure this ***** puts into place enables more later.
- cvm4, on 12/24/2007, -0/+9It's the whole tracking/privacy deal that bugs me. Some people would be screwed if that ever got out.
- 3tcp, on 12/24/2007, -2/+11Next thing you know they'll be recording video from people with webcams while they're watching porn, y'know, just to make sure they're children
- Veni_Vidi_Vici, on 12/24/2007, -2/+10Damnit. Quickly, everyone call your congressman and prevent them from doing this ***** here in the US (You know they'll try)!
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -2/+10"Little Jimmy only needs to find a willing adult,"
No problem. Little Jimmy can just talk to the man with the candy in the windowless econoline van. - ryanonfire, on 12/24/2007, -0/+8This is retarded. Instead of going to nastyassporn.com.au they can just go to nastyassporn.com and by pass all the red tape.
- hplasm, on 12/24/2007, -1/+9No more koala porn, for sure.
- uberkling, on 12/25/2007, -0/+8As an Aussie, this kind of "Let's filter the internets... All of them!!" BS just really drives home to me how technologically illiterate the people making these decisions for us all really are. The privacy issue really riles me too, but what I really take exception to is the wastage.
*Especially* considering the bandwidth issues and telco problems we already have, do these folks seriously have even the vaguest concept of the level of overhead, infrastructure and cost associated with deep packet-inspecting the entire volume of traffic pertaining to EVERYTHING from HTTP traffic to Bittorrent to IRC chatter flowing in and out of 21 million Australians' homes?
There's no point in even making a cynical comment on the fact that 14 yearolds in public schools will get around this in 5 minutes flat when you think of issues like, I dunno, SSL encrypted HTTPS traffic maybe? Are you going to be filtering my online banking transactions to make sure there's no nipple?
It'd be nice if they got real on this issue. The internet doesn't have borders, and like any well-meaning anticopyright/censorship/nannystate system it only punishes the people who do the right thing. This kind of Mickey Mouse, feelgood knee-jerk crap is exactly why pollies should never be allowed to make any decisions relationg to telecommunications or national IT infrastructure until they're properly qualified.
...And of course, yeah... Cram censorship. - NoCt1, on 12/24/2007, -2/+10Exactly. But more like 2 hours.
- Navigator7, on 12/24/2007, -0/+8Citizenry becoming bound and strapped into a yoke of control and servitude is the byproduct of apathetic citizens failing to control their government.
The only people who understand this concept take their dogs for a walk instead of the other way around. - MaxPayne3476, on 12/24/2007, -0/+8Well said, I'm in agreeance. If Johnny is old enough to be curious about looking at porn, then he should have access to it in my opinion. It's not like looking at ***** and ass at 15 is any different then at 18.
- MacEnvy, on 12/24/2007, -3/+10Socialism is a fiscal policy, not a social one. Your ignorance is showing.
- ryanonfire, on 12/24/2007, -0/+7what the ***** is this *****
- inactive, on 12/24/2007, -4/+11THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNN
- mousky, on 12/24/2007, -0/+7Stop electing people that want to protect you. Stop electing people that want to protect your children. Stop electing people that want to tell you what you can and cannot do on private property. Stop electing people that give special rights and privileges to specific groups of people or companies.
- MaxPayne3476, on 12/24/2007, -7/+14Thanks to the OFLC, they've been there for quite some time. Don't kid yourself people, there are hardly any countries freer then the United States and Canada.
- aahpandasrun, on 12/24/2007, -3/+10Australia is a screwed up country. They've even banned ripping music CDs.
- NoCt1, on 12/24/2007, -0/+7Install filters at the fiber taps when they enter the country.
- BitBurner, on 12/24/2007, -0/+7It will be hacked in under a week from launch I'm sure...and the hacks will be traded at school like we used to trade bubble gum cards.
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