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- ekai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+91If Tom and Rupert know what's good for them, they'll NOT piss off the ninja!
- GreyFox422, on 10/12/2007, -8/+79Pirates don't got ***** on ninjas. A pirate you can smell ten feet away while there are four ninjas behind you RIGHT NOW!
- brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+60No, Myspace always sucked.
- drewolanoff, on 06/10/2008, -4/+43Never ever piss off a ninja.
- kylesellers, on 10/12/2007, -46/+79Wow... people still use MySpace?
- stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31Actually, I hope Myspace does this, and much worse. Then it'll get dropped like the plague that it is.
- Cheeseness, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26@ZaNkY
A carpenter? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27MySpace is inherently sucky. Always was, always will be.
- DatDamWuf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18not too into myspace but if they are going to benefit from someone's work then not allowing links back to their sites is *****
- windwaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19It's not like we're saying they should be sued. It's just a ***** thing to do.
- PunkRampant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"They seem to be blocking links from sites for which they have their own in-house service to match"
The problem is, if you upload your content to their in-house service, it basically becomes their property and you lose your rights to it.
Not to defend myspace or anything, but I'm getting sick of seeing comments like "people still use myspace?" Unless you live under a rock you have to admit that myspace is still one of the most bustling sites on the net, though it has been on the decline. - ZaNkY, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Digg actually killed a Ninja's server. I'm getting out of here, some nasty stuff is about to go dow.....shiny.....sword....... ::falls over::
- leahculver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Beware the ninja and the wrath of angry bloggers!
- ArchonSG, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Its all about DRM and how they can eventually force you to view or listen to what they want you to, instead of what you want.
Think about it, once upon a time we could share stuff under the fair play act, now, you can't even invite people in the neighborhood to watch a football game out on your lawn (if you have a projector and a huge screen...ohh like a whitewashed wall) if you are to believe what the NFL considers as "pirating" their content. - eurleif, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Apple.com isn't a site built around user-generated content.
- FrenchMaidTV, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9You've never seen angry French Maids!
- windwaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Are you really trying to justify this? Wow.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14Does anyone know which sites (besides revver and apparently youtube) they are blocking? Or are they the only ones?
They seem to be blocking links from sites for which they have their own in-house service to match, which I really don't see a major problem with. Video sites are blocked, because they have a video service, but imageshack, photobucket, glowfoto.com, etc all still link fine -- because they don't have an in house image link service (yet) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Censoring competitor sites is ***** corny.
- DrewBlood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6This is even worse. They censor it even when you just type "Revver.com" in a message! You can't even discuss the site on Myspace. I am encouraging people to message Tom as well, but I'm also getting the whole "Tom is away" message so at this point there doesn't seem to be much a channel to post grievances.
- t3hNinj4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Is complaining pointless? Maybe. But quitting myspace isn't. If you don't like the service, move to facebook, or one of the other superior alternatives, and try to convince your friends to do the same. If myspace keeps pulling crap like this and doesn't improve their site, people will start to jump ship, which will lower their ad revenues. And that's something they will notice.
- Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You can't send a message to Tom because Tom's status is set to away.
Tom's away message:
hey folks, be back shortly. - mikeyeah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Am I only one who isn't on MySpace? Nerds unite.
- canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5the ninja has sent.......
I'm sending this message to request that MySpace stop blocking videos from sites like Revver. Choosing the video-sharing service that is right for me is very important and is why you built Myspace. What I like most about MySpace is that I can generally do what I want here. I like that Myspace is a relatively open platform where I can communicate with my friends (and promote my stuff) in all sorts of ways. I feel good about sharing videos from Revver because I know they respect copyright and look out for independent artists. Please bring back Revver!
might i suggest a very stealthy cut and paste (emphasis on cut) - anath47, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I think the terminology you're looking for would be:
MySpace betta rekanize! - 2ptyou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Spread the word on myspace bulletins: Tom is just a figurehead.
- ZaNkY, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@Cheeseness
I was thinking of a ninja lobbing off the leg, but I guess a carpenter would be involved as well for the actual peg.
But then again Ninjas aren't in the habit of deleging pirates. Removing a single body part is not finishing the job, it's akin to failure, something Ninja aren't known for. Ever.
Ninja more regularly look forward to killing pirates, kill the pirates (description censored for the actual nonninjas here), and then look back and tell funny stories of how they killed the pirates. "Ahhh Fun times.... He died....." - windwaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You should open the link, it's just text.
However, to answer your question: MySpace has begun to censor links to non-youtube movie sites (such as revver.com), which is a really horrible thing to do. Ask A Ninja (and other sites on the internet who are mad about this) are asking people to send a bunch of messages to Tom about how this is a really bad idea. - mickipedia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Make sure you let myspace know how you feel and send a message to tom: http://myspace.com/tomanderson
Post a bulletin and spread the word as well. - DrewBlood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I did a little science experiment. I sent myself Myspace messages (have a personal account and a performance account) with YouTube, Myspace Video, MetaCafe, and Revver videos embedded, as well as a Flickr photo. Everything showed up fine except the Revver video. I went a little further. Revver has 4 different formats you can embed with. 2 are JS and Myspace won't render "script" tags (for which I'm actually thankful or even more junk would get spread via bulletins). The other 2 are using "embed" tags, one in Quicktime, the other in Shockwave. The Quicktime one does give you the 2 dots mentioned elsewhere, even just in the preview. HOWEVER, the Shockwave one almost looks like it'll work. It sizes the message window properly like there's a video embedded but when you send it...
It's THREE dots.
I tried to be open minded, not because I like defending Myspace (I did an interview with the local paper that was supposed to be a fluff article about how Myspace helps artists and I ended up bashing on it for most of the session) but because I know Myspace is full of bugs and just doesn't render a lot of code properly. I am starting to agree though. It seems unlikely that out of the 4 methods Revver gives you to embed, not one would work on Myspace unless they were blocking content. I would like to point out however that I think it's bad enough that MySpace is blocking Revver without making it sound like they're blocking all kinds of other sites too. Everything I've sent via bulletins or what have you has showed up fine except Revver videos.
I'm curious what these other sites are that are being blocked. - addictedtorss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Seriously, I agree. FFF on 000 is brutal. My eyes were stuck out of focus for a full minute after reading the thing.
- pandaweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3what you could do is type the ip in the link instead of the actual address
so instead of
http://revver.com
you can put
http://8.3.209.73
myspace will not filter that out - whistlerpro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They were blocking YouTube but they unblocked it because of the sheer volume of complaints, if this goes forward then we may get neutrality here too! Fingers crossed.
- mickipedia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3actually, they're blocking all instances of "revver.com" so you can't even type it out. It just disappears.
- escapist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3MySpace has a long history of censoring and removing seemingly harmless words and names of competitors ('ifilm', 'revver', 'grouper', 'friendster').
More recently, they actually removed the word 'online' from messages. Why? Who knows. Check it out: http://flickr.com/photos/skampy/356375381/ - FatherG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It wasn't a podcast. Read canewediggit's post for the bulk of the reason why. Myspace has started blocking/removing links to certain websites such as revver and it has pissed off the wrong ninja.
- mickeyknoxxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2could any of this have to do with the fact that greenspan (tom's partner) started up vidilife.com? Maybe there trying to assist in him being youtubes only real competition.
But than again, I'm just like everybody else. I dont know what the hell Im talking about. - mikeabundo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Screw MySpace, and screw all one-trick-pony social networking sites. Anyone who needs an inflexible "friends list" to determine their social relationships is lame.
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Kinda like yourself?
- Tehrage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2question 33... Is there any reason the ninja shouldn't kill Tom from Myspace?
just have the Ninja give the information about the happenings and maybe more people will take notice if its actually in a video. - dtfinch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6MySpace can censor whatever it wants. It's their servers. They'll just alienate a bunch of users in the process, if that's what they want.
- MrFlesh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4If there is one thing I still agree with as an adult that I said as a kid is that you learn next to nothing useful in high school and that public school has become little more than a day jail for kids so there parents can earn the government and corporations money. Hell even Rockafeller (the OG) said that the purpose of public school was not to educate children but to teach them their place and to follow orders. No where is this as evident as this countries citezenry's total lack of the ability to think critically.....look at the fanatical religous rightwing goose-stepping sheeple.
- smackjack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Myspace is blocking myflashfetish.com, and the word "online" turns into two dots. Projectplaylist was filtered for a while but they unfiltered it. It's because Universal is suing them.
- drilldown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Filter mean one of three things.
1) Profit for someone, somewhere.
2) Someone cannot stand hearing the thoughts of another in their native form of communication.
3) Spammers, see #1 and #2. -see related - antivirus, antispyware.
Filtering will always profit someone, somewhere, somehow in the end. - juxtapose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3this is not the first time they did this to revver or youtube
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060110/0735214_F.shtml - mikeyj10, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2why isn't there a social networking website on the ninjernet?
- windwaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Could you elaborate? This sounds quite interesting.
- simpleprimate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I found that Myspace blocked all my links to a Geocites page I made years & years ago. Stubborn as I am I made a page to redirect to what it was blocking...
- CornStarch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Excuse me for not going along with the hyper nerdom. Let me start over:
Ninjas are teh rox0rz l333t! Bust teh pirates and unicorns would pwn like teh newbs imo. - Wonotch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Umm, what exactly does this have to do with the article??
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