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- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+86Citizens -- we pay for government to manipulate us with propaganda. Doesn't that infuriate you?
Does anyone believe government propaganda contracts are limited to Iraq?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10272171/
Government should be a "light on a hill" not a band of liars, thieves and manipulators. - ZWarren69, on 10/10/2007, -17/+82The underworld of politics and war are much dirtier and disheartening than anyone can imagine. Propaganda is the biggest war being waged. Watch yourselves.
http://digg.com/world_news/AP_New_Details_on_Tillman_s_Death - Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -27/+84The number of US and other intelligence officers roaming the net as part of their work counts in the thousands, maybe even tens of thousands - and that's not counting the people working in the Echelon and similar data-monitoring systems.
Hell yes they'll use Wikipedia to their own ends, hell yes they're here on Digg and other sites.
That's just life, something to be aware of but not really care overly about. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+43Interesting comment from someone who continually trolls on Digg.....
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+38Are Intelligence Agencies Secretly.....
Let me see,
Do bears s**t in the woods?
I bet more than a couple of the "commenters" on this very page are posted to digg and paid to muddy the water. Sadly, they probably work in large call center type buildings with very few windows which is why they're often so cranky and foul mouthed. They're usually extremely bright people, with great potential for excellence, but their talents are wasted working for employers that don't give a s**t. - OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24[quote]Does the government pay people to promote the war, terrorist are going to get you, don't leave the house after dark message? [/quote]
Not "the government". Factions within the government. Follow the $$$. - slipgrid, on 10/10/2007, -11/+32Short answer is yes. I've seen many examples. One is below. But first, I see many ads on Craigslist for people to post blogs to promote corporate or government interest, thus creating the splog. How long do you think you have to do that job before they ask you to start editing Wikipedia?
We got user MONGO removed as an admin. In this he talks about taking orders from email to edit articles. He was busted, because he's a dumb-as-***** super-patriot, and someone sent him a hoax article, and he made the edit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMONGO&diff=91528102&oldid=91511146 - MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -3/+24Didn't the Congress get IP banned from editing wiki a while back?
- corevette, on 10/10/2007, -5/+26http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zeitgeist_%28film%29&action=edit
Zeitgeist (film) is protected - micropolisintel, on 10/10/2007, -13/+33Are Intelligence Agencies Secretly Censoring Wikipedia? - YES
- murraj2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20They'd be burying this story now if it were work hours Mon-Fri.
- jonathansoeder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18"That's just life, something to be aware of but not really care overly about."
Let's just be apathetic about organizations attacking people's minds. This is a despicable attitude. - dartmanx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Yes, lies and propaganda of left-wing wackos needs to be confined to Digg, where it belongs!
(Sarcasm! Digg is a home to ALL wackos, not just the left-wing ones) - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+27Two defused bombs at the Murrah Building:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwrEEP8EBk
Censorship at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_P._Murrah_Federal_Building
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing - dartmanx, on 10/10/2007, -4/+20I _knew_ something was up regarding the origin of Optimus Prime...
- aydoubleyou, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18"Are Intelligence Agencies Secretly Censoring Wikipedia?"
Of course they are. If they have any idea of the power behind the internet, they'd be stupid not to. - Tetraca, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18The question is, what are we going to do about it?
- MemeWarrior, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19Riiiiiiiiight....
- williamdyer, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16C'mon, as long as you believe Israel good, police good, surveillance good, Drug War good, Iraq war going great, there is nothing trollish at all about that crew.
- Aggaman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14I doubt that this person is really an intelligence agent.
However, this sort of negative publicity has been a long time coming. Slimvirgin, and her cohort Jayjg, are the two most abusive editors on Wikipedia. The project would be much better if they were permabanned. The problem is that Jimbo Wales loves them, which is not good for his credibility.
Just go to Wikipedia and try to edit articles that these two feel are "theirs", and see how far you get, even if you maintain a reasonable tone and don't break any rules.
And no, I am not a Wikipedia editor. But anyone who has read around the site and looked at talk pages often enough will have come across this poisonous couple many times. - jonathansoeder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13If you would love to see proof the you re in luck.
Why don't you just go to the public library, or to the national security archives online at http://gwu.edu/~nsarchiv to see the volumes of declassified documents about the intelligence agencies propaganda activities. Based on the massive amount of historical evidence that the CIA used all available media outlets -- radio, print, television -- in every operation since Italy in 45-47, we can be reasonably certain that they would use the Internet as part of their psych warfare campaigns against any movement of people that threatened the established powers whose interests the CIA represents
Furthermore, since the American and British intelligence agencies both view the middle classes of their respective countries suspiciously -- as potential revolutionary movements -- it is a pretty safe assumption that they will be stepping up their propaganda activities on the net considering its widespread usage in these sectors.
If something has been true 99 out of 99 times in the past, inductive reasoning suggests it will be true on the 100th. This should be enough proof for you. - slipgrid, on 10/10/2007, -8/+20You know, it's really interesting that the Junkyarddawg is not one of the users who dugg this story. In fact, he's likely one of the Bury Brigade. You can google his handle, and find this quote by him: "WTF? Howcome I'm not on that list (of the bury brigade)?"
THE BURY BRIGADE
-Junkyarddawg
-Hortnon
-Herkimer56
-lostdiggacct
-Cyre
-jcm267
-theblueprint
-dshPls
-eagle22s
-SpaceMonkeyZero - Melf26, on 10/10/2007, -7/+18Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13[quote]Does the government pay people to promote the war, terrorist are going to get you, don't leave the house after dark message? [/quote]
There is no need to even speculate about this, it is fact. The same thing was done during every war. I suggest you look up how many Hollywood movies the DoD has paid for. Furthermore, I suggest you look up how many corporations profit from government projects.
Some of them think they're doing it for a "good cause." The reality is, they're robbing taxpayers and promoting war. War for profit. So-called "regime change".
That is 21st century colonialism. - crxvfr, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Different countries have different versions of history. Would slanting wikipedia be the beginning of manipulating a world view?
- Cyberen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Absolute Power corrupts absolutely.
Don't think for a second that manipulating even minor media sources is "below" these people. - Jo9100, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Semi-protect the constitution!
- jonathansoeder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10"That's just life, something to be aware of but not really care overly about."
What a despicable attitude. Let's just be APATHETIC about organizations attacking people's minds. That's the spirit. - slipgrid, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11I'm interested to know if those ads on Craigslist for people to post blog post about a topic or product are later moved to the position of Wiki editor. Does the government pay people to promote the war, terrorist are going to get you, don't leave the house after dark message? It's one thing for a government employee spending his time dicking about on Digg. But, is his job title "bury brigade," or is he neglecting work he should be doing?
- drgmdp, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10@JamesSpaza
i'm starting to think you're some kind of fiction character, you can't be real - lordmetroid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7As Geroge Washington stated "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence — it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."
Why do you think government even can be a light on a hill? - hypercrypt, on 10/10/2007, -6/+13Still you cannot deny that there are a few things about 9/11 that do not add up. How did the the BBC know that World Trade Centre 7 collapsed, and reported that it had collapsed, 23 minutes before it actually did. It is not really important whether it was an inside job though, just as it does not matter whether Hitler did burn down the Reichstag, the point is that the event was used to justify all the restrictions that where imposed on the liberty of citizens. The reduction of Habeas Corpus, a war (to some extent) and many other attacks on liberty.
- thefirstenemy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Wow, that'd be really useful if it had an article.
- virtuexru, on 10/10/2007, -10/+17Why isn't this on the front page yet? Over 120+ Diggs.
- Jugalator, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Wow, get a clue... This article follows the news that Linda Mack, a Wikipedia administrator, was exposed as working for the CIA under pseudonym.
- disappointed, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question
- memoBug, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10I can't even get a single reference about a particular published author posted on Wikipedia before some superuser quashes it as not significant to his world view. Meanwhile bios on fictitious Pokemon characters make the site's front page.
You're telling me the Feds are behind this all? Now it makes perfect sense! - ejm508, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8B-B-B-B-BUT CLINTON!!!11oneone
- slipgrid, on 10/10/2007, -9/+15Because it's CT. You are not supposed to know that the government is censoring Wiki stories, so the government shoots out an email to bury this one. The link below got about 1000 diggs in just a few hours, and it never reached the front page.
http://digg.com/politics/Loose_Change_Producer_Korey_Rowe_Arrested - Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10Maybe you should wiki what "censorship" is. What you've shown an example of is that there's moronic editors at Wikipedia.
- tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7What are those links for? I don't get it. I'm supposed to believe some crackpot video of early news footage that shows that they had no clue what was going on, but reported anyway? Do all of the people in the know about this just lie to cover up some vast conspiracy?
- Maxamegalon2000, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zeitgeist_the_Movie
The article did not have any sources, nor could notability be proven. - shroominbal, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7what is new? they have been doing it way before wikipedia was ever existing. has anyone saw "1984" and remember it?
- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
- KevenM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5We're gonna keep talking about it!
- ISIfunded911, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I am glad someone noticed this! It is exactly how manipulation of the mind works: begin with a sentence everyone will agree with, and "naturally" end with what you really want to put in people's minds: go back to sleep, sheeple!
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6"Logic" involves facts, or at least opinions. The only thing you do is call people names. Name-calling is not logical, nor is it common sense. Common sense is to present an opinion and support it with facts.
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8http://digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_Building_The_Ultimate_Spyware_System
Microsoft is going to give the CIA easy access to all your stuff. As well as profit from ads IN YOUR OS, and subscription fees. Microsoft must be stopped. - solistus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Because we think it's worthy of others' attention.
Why are fools posting comments on stories they seem to think are not worth anyone's time? - DivisibleByZero, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Early footage is exactly that. Early. Nobody knows what really happened within the first few minutes after this kind of stuff, so the media speculates. Remember those "suspicious packages" in Boston?
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